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messageAlcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by JB1881 10 January, 2017 13:40

Hi everyone,

So, in January a lot of people go alcohol free, including some people I know. I still want to support local pubs and I like being in the pub.

So can anyone help me with some knowledge of which pubs locally sell low alcohol or alcohol free beer? I quite like the Brew Dog Nanny State but I have never seen it anywhere. I know people that like the Erdinger and Bavaria zero alcohol options.

Does anyone know of any good options in the pubs of ED and Peckham?

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by titch juicy 10 January, 2017 15:09

Why not just drink soft drinks?

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by Mick Mac 10 January, 2017 15:17

Sparkling water does it for me. No, honest, it does.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by DulwichFox 10 January, 2017 15:23

EDT sells Bavaria..

Bishop used to sell Becks Blue. not sure if they still do..

I'm not doing Dry Jan this year.. Just cutting down generally.

DulwichFox.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by Jeremy 10 January, 2017 15:43

Becks Blue is drinkable-ish. Have seen it in a few of the Antic pubs.

Would be surprised if any local pubs sell Nanny State - you'd probably need to go to a BrewDog bar, or other craft beer bar.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by KidKruger 10 January, 2017 16:42

I had a thread on this a few years ago.
Basically your fecked.
Gowlett does Becks Blue if I remember (or a substitute).
You'd need to phone / visit each pub to check whether there's an alcohol-free option.
As for drinking soft drinks, literally ounces of sugar, that's an unsavoury (pun intended) option.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by Phlox 10 January, 2017 16:56

Lime cordial with soda and maybe ice.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by Dog duck 10 January, 2017 17:15

Just do more coke

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by Sue 11 January, 2017 00:02

Just keep on drinking alcohol big grin

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by DovertheRoad 11 January, 2017 06:05

Dry January...like everyone is some kind of martyr. Really boring. Drink if you like, abstain if you like. But as Fox says moderation is surely the way. Nothing against non alcoholic beer...but it just makes makes me want real beer. Like vegetarian bacon.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by Seabag 11 January, 2017 08:50

I stopped drinking alcohol last year. Don't let anyone beat down on you for doing so, shame on you DoverTheRoad.

If you're serious about it, then there's a few things that make it less of a challenge. Eating proper and regular meals, as a drop in blood sugars is a trigger. It sounds lame, but I find a few dried fruits in the late afternoon helps, as does making sure you're actually drinking enough fluids. I figured much of my 7pm guzzle was down to thirst/dehydration.

As for fake beer, I do keep a Becks Blue in the fridge, I like the hoppy tang that's required every now and then, that said I get about half way through a bottle and ditch the rest. But the key thing is not to look at 'replacing' one thing for another, as it mimics the habit. I've always been fond of sparkiling water, each brand has a different taste, some of the Turkish ones have a slight salty tang. I like that, along with Badoit, San Pelligrino, but Highland spring can be a bit 'dry'. Many versions of green tea, specially the orange blossom and one.

I'm thankfully at the point where I don't crave for a drink, and i'm very often around the places that it's prevalent (i'm close to the industry, which if i'm honest has helped) and i've seen too many people who've fallen off and under the wagon.

But it's a challenge, in that the drinking bit of life is much like parking up, stepping off somewhat. I've had to fill my late day and evenings with being present, which sounds a bit wanky, but it's real. You end up with a lot of time in the real world.

The up side.
Never a hang over (you have to remind yourself some mornings)
Sleeping, not passing out
Waking up, not coming to
Reduced anxiety
Better skin
Better health
I can drive anywhere at anytime
Less body mass
Wealthier
The days seem longer, not 2 shorter halves.

The downside.
Hanging out with some people gets a bit boring "Yes, I heard you the first time" after they've repeated the same thing about 4 times
Not having the occasional buffer between real life and yourself.
The joy of just getting hammered and staggering up to bed.
The sheer indulgence of very good wine.

Now i'm not saying i'll never touch a drop ever again, but not indoors at mine. Out out, maybe. Weddings, funerals, bah mitzvah's.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by johnie 11 January, 2017 09:46

The Herne does San Miguel 0% and something else.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by KidKruger 11 January, 2017 09:56

Well said Seabag.

I'm doing a sort of Seabag-lite the last 6 months or so and intend it to stay that way because it's working for me - not a total ban on alcohol but only occasionally when the time is right, and even then it's small amounts.
After 30yrs of just doing what everyone does, it's frankly become boring.
I have claimed so much more of my time back and am getting so much more done - just one can of beer in the evening often prevents me doing anything further.
I'm also doing something similar with meat (weekend only).
You can make these choices for yourself, to support what you want to do.

One 'down side' is some can people take it so 'personally' when others they're with don't want to drink alcohol, like it's a threat or there's something being reflected back on them (dunno why there's not same reaction from meat-eaters to veggies, maybe alcohol has more shame attached to it?).
But take encouragement from the standard line, "what's wrong ?", when someone's getting the round in, which tells you all you need to know about exactly what's wrong.

up sides I'd add:
- getting more done (at work, at home, personal interests) -> greater feeling of achievement/progress -> lesser feeling of stress over things not done -> happier in myself and able to move onto next things I want to do/progress.
- less clouded thinking
- able to concentrate longer and more consistently
- more accurate judgements
- better sleep
- more energy

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by DovertheRoad 11 January, 2017 10:54

Seabag Wrote:
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> I stopped drinking alcohol last year. Don't let
> anyone beat down on you for doing so, shame on you
> DoverTheRoad.


Read my post. I'm not beating anyone down for not drinking alcohol at all. I said drinking or abstention are all fine. I'm just saying that I find the whole dry January concept really boring when people make out it's a massive personal sacrifice in the name of better health and then want to tell everyone about it. Then get slap bang back onto boozing as usual come 1st Feb.

Several studies show that dry January doesn't really make you any healthier and that moderation throughout the year is far better.

Impressive you've made a choice and stuck to it for so long tho.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by Mick Mac 11 January, 2017 12:25

DovertheRoad Wrote:
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>
> Several studies show that dry January doesn't
> really make you any healthier and that moderation
> throughout the year is far better.
>

No sh1t.....! Really?

However, a month without alcohol for someone who generally exceeds the recommended limits is certainly a good idea.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by JohnL 11 January, 2017 12:29

The threat of drinking with teetotalers is they tell you exactly
what you did when everybody else has forgotten.

conversations tend to go ...

"how much did you drink"
"about 4 pints"
"No it was 8"
"It was when you started hugging I got really embarrassed"

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by 11 January, 2017 13:17

Mick Mac Wrote:
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> DovertheRoad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Several studies show that dry January doesn't
> > really make you any healthier and that
> moderation
> > throughout the year is far better.
> >
>
> No sh1t.....! Really?
>
> However, a month without alcohol for someone who
> generally exceeds the recommended limits is
> certainly a good idea.


I'm with Mic Mac - you are reducing your overall consumption (by 8%). But, non health related benefits:

- puts a break on the acceleration and excess of Christmas by December 3oth I'm generally eyeing up my first drink at about 11am

- a bit of self discipline and a bit of self discipline once in while is good for the soul

- saves a bit of (in both ways smiling smiley

I am doing it for the first time in about ten years. I started way ahead of trend on this with Dry January's throughout the late 80s and all of the 90s. Not finding it that difficult but then my consumption now is way way below what it was back in the day.

PS I don't drink in the week at home so this is another bit of reducing overall consumption



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messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by Jah Lush 11 January, 2017 13:27

Not wanting to denigrate any of you drying out or wanting to cut down your alcohol consumption but this an amusing read and on trend.

Oh goodness me, did I just say 'on trend'. I did, didn't I? Well tie me to a tree and call me Brenda.

Now read on -

[deserter.co.uk]

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by KidKruger 11 January, 2017 14:29

Will do, 'Brenda' !

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by DovertheRoad 11 January, 2017 14:35

Personally I'd rather reduce my alcoholic consumption by 8% over 12 months and still go down the pub. Each to their own.

Thanks Jah. Also this...

[www.thedailymash.co.uk]



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messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by Help-Ma-Boab 11 January, 2017 15:03

The 6 x 6 method seems to work well for me.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by JohnL 11 January, 2017 15:11

Mick Mac Wrote:
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> DovertheRoad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Several studies show that dry January doesn't
> > really make you any healthier and that
> moderation
> > throughout the year is far better.
> >
>
> No sh1t.....! Really?
>
> However, a month without alcohol for someone who
> generally exceeds the recommended limits is
> certainly a good idea.

Is it just drinkers that believe your liver can repair itself
if it has a rest.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by Jah Lush 11 January, 2017 15:59

JohnL Wrote:

Is it just drinkers that believe your liver can repair itself if it has a rest.

*

To a certain extent that is true. It can and it does. For instance, at 25 I was told to stop by my GP for six months as my liver was the size of a rugby ball. Caused by my excessive drinking. I stopped for about four months and it seemed to do the trick.

On the other hand I've lost half a dozen friends to acute liver failure (cirrhosis of the liver). They were all alcoholics, all of them.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by Angelina 11 January, 2017 16:44

So people really drink because they're bored? And because they can't think of anything else to do?

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by Seabag 11 January, 2017 17:12

DovertheRoad Wrote:
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> Seabag Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I stopped drinking alcohol last year. Don't let
> > anyone beat down on you for doing so, shame on
> you
> > DoverTheRoad.
>
>
> Read my post. I'm not beating anyone down for not
> drinking alcohol at all. I said drinking or
> abstention are all fine. I'm just saying that I
> find the whole dry January concept really boring
> when people make out it's a massive personal
> sacrifice in the name of better health and then
> want to tell everyone about it. Then get slap bang
> back onto boozing as usual come 1st Feb.
>
> Several studies show that dry January doesn't
> really make you any healthier and that moderation
> throughout the year is far better.
>
> Impressive you've made a choice and stuck to it
> for so long tho.


I meant to add a smiley icon, to show it was a tongue in cheek remark

Anyway, chill out, sounds like you need a drink

😁😆

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by BrandNewGuy 11 January, 2017 17:41

Angelina Wrote:
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> So people really drink because they're bored? And
> because they can't think of anything else to do?

No, they do it because it's an excellent sociable drug when not taken to excess, as humans have known for thousands of years. Soda water? Not so much.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by Louisa 11 January, 2017 18:05

Well I've been taking a break too. It's been 6 days since my last drink and I feel really good. Also doing regular evening walks down LL if anyone wants to join me? Small things make a big difference when added up.

Louisa.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by DulwichFox 11 January, 2017 18:19

I did Dry Jan in 2016.. and stuck to it. No alcohol for a whole month...

I did not feel any benefit what so ever and in fact my Blood Sugar levels went sky high..

When I drink at night 2 pints and a single shot Drambuie or similar my B.S. levels next morning are 4.8 - 5.4 mml/M
With no alcohol my B.S. levels are 6.6 - 7.8mml/L

My diabetic team are very pleased with my control of my diabetes. Which I believe is due to my alcohol consumption.

So I have a dilemma.. ?

Foxy

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by edcam 11 January, 2017 18:22

We're doing no drinking in the week, which for us is a big change. So far it's great - sleeping much better and already lost a fair bit of weight. Alcohol-free beer/wine etc. is invariably vile. Would much rather have water/herbal teas etc.

messageRe: Alcohol Free but wanting to go out
Posted by rendelharris 11 January, 2017 18:33

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> I did Dry Jan in 2016.. and stuck to it. No
> alcohol for a whole month...
>
> I did not feel any benefit what so ever and in
> fact my Blood Sugar levels went sky high..
>
> When I drink at night 2 pints and a single shot
> Drambuie or similar my B.S. levels next morning
> are 4.8 - 5.4 mml/M
> With no alcohol my B.S. levels are 6.6 -
> 7.8mml/L
>
> My diabetic team are very pleased with my
> control of my diabetes. Which I believe is due to
> my alcohol consumption.
>
> So I have a dilemma.. ?
>
> Foxy

What's the dilemma? Whatever blather they make up about units per week (a number which has been decreasing and decreasing without research to support it) two pints and a Drambuie a day is not going to do you any harm - and it sounds like it's doing you good! Stick with it I say!

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