cyclist serious accidents and deaths: new map

[louisiana]

Ted Reilly, City Cyclists: cyclist injuries and casualties in London.

http://www.citybeast.com/londoncyclists.html

[PeckhamRose]

Interesting, but it doesn't tell the details. So the information is kind of not helpful.

By details I mean - well for example today I saw two guys on the mobiles texting whilst riding their bicycles. If they're involved in an accident they would be considered blameless just because they were cyclists (according to new plans, anyway).

[louisiana]

PeckhamRose Wrote:

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> Interesting, but it doesn't tell the details. So

> the information is kind of not helpful.

> By details I mean - well for example today I saw

> two guys on the mobiles texting whilst riding

> their bicycles. If they're involved in an accident

> they would be considered blameless just because

> they were cyclists (according to new plans,

> anyway).

The details are all contained in the various accident/transport databases. A map is not designed to analyse causation. It is intended to map occurrences spatially.

Were they texting with their gloves on?

[sniffy]

This is a great step forward if somewhat futile, can't see the point myself.

I question how up-to-date this is? I have checked on the locations of some of last years fatal incidents yet they don't appear on this map at all!!!???!!!. Really what is the point of this!!!????

Some random cyclists/fatal accidents from last year, NOT SHOWN ON THIS MAP:

Whitechapel/Valance rd/ female/ September 2009.

Elephant & castle/ Female/ mid 2009.

Holborn Viaduct/ Female/ early 2009.

Peckham/ Female/ June 2009.

Embankment nr Westminster/ Female/ Nov 2009

Goswell Road/ Female/ April 2009

etc etc

So, 6 fatal accidents last year in London and they're not on this map.....

*who's wasting who's time....*

[ruffers]

To Sue - who's to blame isn't the point I don't think, and I can't help but think that's who's to blame retropsectively doesn't help a killed or injured person. If though a cyclist sees an accident somewhere they go and thinks "I should be a bit careful round there".., then job done.

[H]

sniffy Wrote:

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> This is a great step forward if somewhat futile,

> can't see the point myself.

> I question how up-to-date this is? I have checked

> on the locations of some of last years fatal

> incidents yet they don't appear on this map at

> all!!!???!!!. Really what is the point of

> this!!!????

> Some random cyclists/fatal accidents from last

> year, NOT SHOWN ON THIS MAP:

> Whitechapel/Valance rd/ female/ September 2009.

> Elephant & castle/ Female/ mid 2009.

> Holborn Viaduct/ Female/ early 2009.

> Peckham/ Female/ June 2009.

> Embankment nr Westminster/ Female/ Nov 2009

> Goswell Road/ Female/ April 2009

> etc etc

>

> So, 6 fatal accidents last year in London and

> they're not on this map.....

> *who's wasting who's time....*

It maps accidents from 2000-2008 so the ones you have listed above wouldn't show up on it. I agree with Ruffers, if it makes someone think about an area which has a high accident rate and they then take it more carefully around there then job done.

[KidKruger]

I think a different colour marker for DEATHs would help identify the WORST accidents and bring home the gravity of the need for such a map.

[Applespider]

It is interesting but doesn't really help in terms of picking out 'dangerous' roads since there's no indication of how well used by cyclists the roads are. An accident 'blackspot' might have hundreds of cyclists through it on a daily basis and very low % of accidents whereas another road might only have two or three markers but only 10 cyclists have ever gone down it.

Still... in terms of junctions to watch out, it is useful although looking at my route to work, the 'worst' ones are the ones that I'd have expected.

[louisiana]

sniffy Wrote:

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> This is a great step forward if somewhat futile,

> can't see the point myself.

> I question how up-to-date this is? I have checked

> on the locations of some of last years fatal

> incidents yet they don't appear on this map at

> all!!!???!!!. Really what is the point of

> this!!!????

> Some random cyclists/fatal accidents from last

> year, NOT SHOWN ON THIS MAP:

> Whitechapel/Valance rd/ female/ September 2009.

> Elephant & castle/ Female/ mid 2009.

> Holborn Viaduct/ Female/ early 2009.

> Peckham/ Female/ June 2009.

> Embankment nr Westminster/ Female/ Nov 2009

> Goswell Road/ Female/ April 2009

> etc etc

>

> So, 6 fatal accidents last year in London and

> they're not on this map.....

> *who's wasting who's time....*

Crikey sniffy, keep your hair on.

This is a first attempt by someone, which contains all the data for a number of years. No, it doesn't include the most recent. And yes, I'm sure it can be improved. Most things can.

Think of it as a 'beta', version 0.8: I'm sure the person who created it - and who has no doubt devoted considerable time to gathering data from disparate sources - would welcome constructive suggestions for improvement. Such as then combining this data with some kind of cycling traffic data.