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messageKitchen side return extension
Posted by madaba 10 April, 2012 15:53

Hi,
I'm considering having my kitchen extended using the side return. I'd be very grateful for any advice or recommendations please. Many thanks.

messageRe: Kitchen side return extension
Posted by May283 10 April, 2012 18:41

Terry Malone is very good. Think he has a website if you google him. His email address is Terry@terrymalone.co.uk

messageRe: Kitchen side return extension
Posted by sue k 10 April, 2012 19:20

i would consider chatting to an architect too, to get the right advice about what is possible, and Karanjit Sandhu is just lovely, easy to chat to and has great practical ideas..she is local in ED
07534 295 320
karanjit@sandhuarchitects.com
www.sandhuarchitects.com

messageRe: Kitchen side return extension
Posted by Bishberro 11 April, 2012 20:58

Hi - We've just had this done and would recommend chatting with an architect first. We used Joe Knight of KN Designs and he was great. He's based in East Dulwich. He's on 07779596953.

messageRe: Kitchen side return extension
Posted by Jeremy 12 April, 2012 10:14

Do you need planning permission for a side return extension, or does it normally fall within permitted development?

messageRe: Kitchen side return extension
Posted by red devil 12 April, 2012 10:36

You can only extend out 3m under PD, if you want to go further you need formal planning permission.

messageRe: Kitchen side return extension
Posted by m-architect 12 April, 2012 14:47

Madaba and Jeremy,

You can usually get away with permitted development works for a small scale residential extension which would not require a full planning application. More information and some good interactive guides can be found on the Planning Portal website [www.planningportal.gov.uk]

For complete reasurance from the Planning Authority a 'Permitted Development Application' can be made prior to the work being undertaken on site which would show that your scheme will fall within the permitted development criteria.

If you require further information or wish to talk about your proposals please contact me.....

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mark@m-architect.co.uk
www.m-architect.co.uk

messageRe: Kitchen side return extension
Posted by Jeremy 12 April, 2012 15:55

red devil Wrote:
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> You can only extend out 3m under PD, if you want
> to go further you need formal planning permission.

Does that mean that the side extension can only be 3m in width, or length?

Or does it mean that you can extend the length of your current kitchen by 3m, as well as filling in the side return?

messageRe: Kitchen side return extension
Posted by m-architect 12 April, 2012 16:08

Jeremy take a look at the Planning Portal link I posted above. The interactive guides on there may give you a better idea of what falls under permitted development

messageRe: Kitchen side return extension
Posted by red devil 12 April, 2012 16:18

3m in length x existing width of side return. If your side return is say 6m long, you would be left with a 3m long side return.
If your house is L-shaped in plan, i.e has a rear block, you can also extend out 3m from the rear wall of this block, again maintaining the existing width of the block.
If you extended the side return and rear block, you would end up with a 6m side return, the whole thing having shunted forward by 3m. Hope that makes sense...these things are easier to draw! smiling smiley
If you live in a flat, PD regs don't apply and you would need to apply for planning permission regardless how far you wanted to extend.

messageRe: Kitchen side return extension
Posted by Jeremy 13 April, 2012 10:02

Thanks. Many houses have a longer extension, so I guess they would have gone through full planning.

messageRe: Kitchen side return extension
Posted by MPPLUMBING 13 April, 2012 17:15

Hi madaba,

Architects can be very helpful, though they are not always needed for projects this size. We can provide drawings and submit them for approval as well as carrying out the work, which would save you a substantial amount.

Please feel free to contact us if you would like us to come and give you a free quote.

Feel free to search and check our referrals on the forum.

messageRe: Kitchen side return extension
Posted by red devil 13 April, 2012 17:46

MPPLUMBING Wrote:
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> Hi madaba,
>
> Architects can be very helpful, though they are
> not always needed for projects this size. We can
> provide drawings and submit them for approval as
> well as carrying out the work, which would save
> you a substantial amount.


That's very debatable MPP.
A poorly designed extension will actually detract from the value of a house, whereas a well designed extension will add value. It's not all about short term gains...

messageRe: Kitchen side return extension
Posted by m-architect 16 April, 2012 11:59

red devil Wrote:
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> MPPLUMBING Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hi madaba,
> >
> > Architects can be very helpful, though they are
> > not always needed for projects this size. We
> can
> > provide drawings and submit them for approval
> as
> > well as carrying out the work, which would save
> > you a substantial amount.
>
> That's very debatable MPP.
> A poorly designed extension will actually detract
> from the value of a house, whereas a well designed
> extension will add value. It's not all about short
> term gains...


Agree with RED DEVIL. In the majority of cases it is beneficial for the client to have an independent consultant to work through their requirements for the job and produce the scheme / design drawings as there can be a conflict of interest if the firm building the works are the same people designing the scheme.

Also regarding the professional fees for submitting the application, someone has to put in the hours be it the Architect or a builder. So the fees for this will have to be paid one way or another.

If anyone is interested and would like to 'try out' an Architect the RIBA are currently running a scheme..... www.architectinthehouse.org.uk


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