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messageI have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by rochant 25 June, 2014 04:12

Does anyone know what time. I would like to go

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by KidKruger 25 June, 2014 07:05

I love to go to a demonstration too and so close to where I live.
What's it about, by the way ?

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by Penguin68 25 June, 2014 08:09

"Whaddya got?"

(Marlon Brando in The Wild One and not James Dean (surprisingly) in Rebel without a Cause in answer to the question - what are you rebelling against?)

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by Tigres Pride 25 June, 2014 11:01

The demonstration will be at 10am outside the Surgery at East Dulwich Hospital and is being organised by the Surgery Staff. They ask that everyone upset by this Surgery closure attend to show how much it means to us.

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by Loz 25 June, 2014 12:48

Penguin68 Wrote:
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> "Whaddya got?"
>
> (Marlon Brando in The Wild One and not James Dean (surprisingly) in Rebel without a Cause in answer
> to the question - what are you rebelling against?)

"Down with this sort of thing"

"Careful now"

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by AbDabs 25 June, 2014 13:36

Tigres Pride Wrote:
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> ......to show how much it means to us.

Who is this aimed at, ie who is the target audience? From what I've read it looks as though Dr Sarma simply didn't want the effort involved in setting up a new partnership that would have allowed the practice to continue. Or have I misunderstood the issue?

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by Bic Basher 25 June, 2014 13:51

According to NHS Choices, Dr Sarma has 2180 patients on his books, one of the lowest in SE22. Considering Melbourne Grove is within a short distance of Dulwich Hospital, most who want to continue receiving GP services in the same area will simply transfer across, despite the problems they've had in recent months.

It's a shame when a practice closes as I went through the same process last summer, yet the patient capacity is there.

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by lameduck 25 June, 2014 19:03

Thats why you can get in to see him
he only has 2180
from now on we will be waiting 2 weeks

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by KalamityKel 26 June, 2014 10:03

Bic Basher Wrote:
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> According to NHS Choices, Dr Sarma has 2180
> patients on his books, one of the lowest in SE22.
> Considering Melbourne Grove is within a short
> distance of Dulwich Hospital, most who want to
> continue receiving GP services in the same area
> will simply transfer across, despite the problems
> they've had in recent months.
>
> It's a shame when a practice closes as I went
> through the same process last summer, yet the
> patient capacity is there.

Catchment areas still apply to the other surgeries as does the whole registration malarky of filling out a form, dropping it in to the surgery, providing various forms of ridiculous ID, battling with the receptionist, booking in to see the nurse for the silly health check which covers everything you've filled in on the form (even if you've just had a check up at your old surgery)and then a docs appointment if needed - it should simply be a straight transfer with none of this rubbish... 2180 appointments now are being taken up unnecessarily.

The whole process is ridiculous.

After moving to a surgery you DON'T want to go to - how can anyone say there is a choice when many patients at Dr Sarma's surgery moved they because they had already tried the others?
What guarantee is there that a similar form of closure won't occur to the surgery you end up going to a little way down the line? If NHS England have done their research as they claim does this not open their eyes to other surgeries they may want to close/not continue to run?

This particular surgery was to be included, along with MGMC, with future plans for hospital site - if it was considered on this side of plans why suddenly deem it now as unimportant? How does one quick short study out do the other that has been going on for years?

The whole point of the "demonstration" I would have assumed was to highlight a whole number of issues which we ALL should be concerned about. So those thinking oh it doesn't concern me... really? Doesn't it?

The demonstration is open to all. Come along if you care about your area.

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by alice 26 June, 2014 15:02

[www.standard.co.uk]

local dulwich doctor without a surgery

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by lameduck 26 June, 2014 17:22

[www.standard.co.uk]

local dulwich doctor without a surgery
can we have her

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by speedbird 26 June, 2014 17:43

lameduck Wrote:
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> >
> local dulwich doctor without a surgery
> can we have her


You wouldn't want Doctor Leonard. She is rarely there, loves publicity More than spending time with patients, is more about herself than listening to them. Believe me, this woman is not for caring. She is the Doctor of an elderly relative and it is like getting an audience with the Queen.

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by Mustard 26 June, 2014 19:11

From the article - 'The nearest other surgery was being moved into Dulwich Hospital'....I heard that eventually Melbourne Grove was supposed to move there.

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by Tigres Pride 26 June, 2014 22:07

When Dr Sarma first moved into his Surgery in East Dulwich Hospital from Maxted Road it was on the understanding that he would eventually be moved into the "New Super Dooper Primary Care Unit to be built on the site of the knocked down half of East Dulwich Hospital". If indeed his surgery is closed down, who will be the new PCU be given to? That's if indeed they ever get round to building it. It's been over ten years now and they haven't yet broken ground on the site.

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by Bic Basher 26 June, 2014 23:21

Mustard Wrote:
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> From the article - 'The nearest other surgery was
> being moved into Dulwich Hospital'....I heard that
> eventually Melbourne Grove was supposed to move
> there.

That wouldn't surprise me, along with the fact they have more registered patients than Dr Sarma.

I'm sure there are other reasons which haven't been publicised to why Dr Sarma couldn't get a junior partner to take over the practice when he retired.

I read a report yesterday (sorry I don't have the link right now) where it claimed that it's now harder to get a younger GP to take over a surgery due to stress with older GP's retiring earlier because of the workload which doesn't just include seeing patients, but the overall practice.

Independent surgeries are also competing with private sector practices such as Melbourne Grove (managed by Concordia Health) and DMC for patients.

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by KalamityKel 27 June, 2014 08:20

Dr sarma and the mgmc were the two who were meant to move into the new medical building on the hospital site

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by KoolBananas 27 June, 2014 08:58

Amazes me how such public knowledge is ignored. This info regarding the plans for the new medical centre on the hospital site have been around for years LONG before local councillors started eyeing up another part of the site for a school.

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by first mate 27 June, 2014 20:43

Interesting, if true, that MGMC might get their mitts on a prime site, despite their appalling reputation.

messageRe: I have heard that there is to be a demonstration outside East Dulwich Hospital on Saturday 28 June.
Posted by Tigres Pride 28 June, 2014 17:12

Our thanks to the dozen or so that turned up in the pouring rain, together with the reporter, to show their opposition to the closure.


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