DaveR Wrote:
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> There's obviously though a middle ground between
> "personal aesthetic tastes" and danger to
> health/property


I just don't get where the danger is. It's a run down shop front with flaky paint.

Otta Wrote:
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> DaveR Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There's obviously though a middle ground
> between
> > "personal aesthetic tastes" and danger to
> > health/property
>
>

> I just don't get where the danger is. It's a run
> down shop front with flaky paint.


obviously some stupid saddos obviously consider that a bit of flaky paint and and a run down shop front is a danger to their rose tinted vision of gentrification and and the health of their property values.

NewWave Wrote:

> obviously some stupid saddos obviously consider
> that a bit of flaky paint and and a run down shop
> front is a danger to their rose tinted vision of
> gentrification and and the health of their
> property values.


This. ^^^^^

"obviously some stupid saddos obviously consider that a bit of flaky paint and and a run down shop front is a danger to their rose tinted vision of gentrification and and the health of their property values"

The stupid people are the ones who don't bother to read the posts, but just shoot their mouths off and reveal their tired and pathetic prejudices. Nobody has suggested that the premises are dangerous, and only the aforementioned stupid people have mentioned gentrification and property values. If you asked any shop owner whether they would rather have all the shops on their street in use and in good condition, what do you think they would say? And I suspect you'd get the same answer from most other people working/living in the area. I couldn't give a toss about 124 Lordship Lane but the level of intolerance on this forum is just absurd.

DaveR Wrote:
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I couldn't give a toss about 124
> Lordship Lane but the level of intolerance on this
> forum is just absurd.


*applauds*

Not to be an eyesore for much longer... up for sale...

[www.rightmove.co.uk]

I love this shop front. It's a rare and beautiful thing to be able to see such intact features of a Victorian shop.

Go and take a look at the original roller blind boxes, the Victorian door with a tiny letterbox for when letters were only a
few inches in size, the decorative brackets, the original glass. To think that this will be 'made-over', obliterating its history, is tragic.
I would buy it if I could and retain all those features, so I hope whoever buys it is sympathetic to its soul.

The front door has got a massive yellow bin in front of it today

Jacqui5254 Wrote:
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> I love this shop front. It's a rare and beautiful
> thing to be able to see such intact features of a
> Victorian shop.
>
> Go and take a look at the original roller blind
> boxes, the Victorian door with a tiny letterbox
> for when letters were only a
> few inches in size, the decorative brackets, the
> original glass. To think that this will be
> 'made-over', obliterating its history, is tragic.
> I would buy it if I could and retain all those
> features, so I hope whoever buys it is sympathetic
> to its soul.


Yes.. Wouldn't it be lovely if all the shops houses and pubs , restaurants looked like that..

DulwichFox

The double bay front could look amazing with a little... ok a lot of TLC.

Yes Ms Blueberry, maybe there is something you could do if it is affecting you house price, maybe you could gather a few friends from the gym, and actually knock on the elderly person's house and ask her if she needs any assistance, would that be a community spirited way of dealing with things.

Jacqui5254 Wrote:
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> I love this shop front. It's a rare and beautiful
> thing to be able to see such intact features of a
> Victorian shop.
>
> Go and take a look at the original roller blind
> boxes, the Victorian door with a tiny letterbox
> for when letters were only a
> few inches in size, the decorative brackets, the
> original glass. To think that this will be
> 'made-over', obliterating its history, is tragic.
> I would buy it if I could and retain all those
> features, so I hope whoever buys it is sympathetic
> to its soul.

Jacqui - did you know that there's another Victorian shopfront in Crystal Palace Rd, a couple of doors from the Great Exhibition?
It's not in use and has been completely painted over in green, but is intact.

Thanks kiera, I'll take a look at it. These bits of our local history are rare gems!

Just adding onto what Kiera said, Jacqui... Yes, it's a beautiful Chinoiserie-style place, with amazing fretwork... So interesting. Agree with Jacqui about 124... Would rather see an older, original shopfront, and knowing there might be a lovely, elderly original living in there/above it, than see some boring old hoardings for months and months (hello former Haus of Wood!).

Thanks for highlighting its features Jacqui, I walked past yesterday and appreciated its cute letterbox.
I too hope that it's Victorian features are retained.


Jacqui5254 Wrote:
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> I love this shop front. It's a rare and beautiful
> thing to be able to see such intact features of a
> Victorian shop.
>
> Go and take a look at the original roller blind
> boxes, the Victorian door with a tiny letterbox
> for when letters were only a
> few inches in size, the decorative brackets, the
> original glass. To think that this will be
> 'made-over', obliterating its history, is tragic.
> I would buy it if I could and retain all those
> features, so I hope whoever buys it is sympathetic
> to its soul.

Now sold, subject to contract.

Work in Progress..


Foxy

[planbuild.southwark.gov.uk:8190]

I live in hope that this isn't going to trigger the usual nimby comments (lorry parking, customers all over the place, noise of people walking in the shop, people laughing, whistling after sundown etc. etc.)!

All accompanied with a healthy dose of faux indignation - it's not like it used to be, its only for the rich, its all in the worst possible taste, it'll never succeed... what? they've sold out already? that first week was a blip/their stock management is woeful.. blah blah blah...

I suppose the silver lining might be that at least the M&S thread might go quiet for a while!

How exciting, another Pizza Express within half a mile of the village. Can hardly contain myself.

Louisa.

So looking at the planning application, they want to split an existing maisonette into two flats, one of which will have added space from a loft conversion, and retain the existing ground floor retail space with added space at the back from extending into the side return. It all seems pretty uncontroversial - side return + loft conversion = standard practice for the neighbourhood, and no change of use application for the shop space.

No indication of whether there is a tenant lined up for the shop, unless I missed something.

Hear, hear! and let's hope that the Louisa can contain herself...

Nice clean space for the Spray Painters and Fly Posters.

Lets see how long it takes..

DulwichFox

Louisa Wrote:
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> How exciting, another Pizza Express within half a
> mile of the village. Can hardly contain myself.
>
> Louisa.


Stop trying to wind people up-- there is no mention of Pizza Express

Must be Friday LM, sense of humour failure. I was being sarcastic. Maybe it will be a space NK?

Louisa.

Well you really don't have to read a thread unless you want to...


Robbin Wrote:

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> I live in hope that this isn't going to trigger
> the usual nimby comments (lorry parking, customers
> all over the place, noise of people walking in the
> shop, people laughing, whistling after sundown
> etc. etc.)!
>
> All accompanied with a healthy dose of faux
> indignation - it's not like it used to be, its
> only for the rich, its all in the worst possible
> taste, it'll never succeed... what? they've sold
> out already? that first week was a blip/their
> stock management is woeful.. blah blah blah...
>
> I suppose the silver lining might be that at least
> the M&S thread might go quiet for a while!

I guess if you don't live in the immediate streets surrounding this new store it's not a problem. As long as you get your hands on some overpriced ready meals.

I went in earlier (on foot) to buy butter, their basic variety was 1.30, walked back home jumped in car and drove to Lidl in Penge and paid 79p for same size. I'll be buying my wine from marks from now on though. When I can be bothered to walk.

Louisa.

Louisa Wrote:
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> I guess if you don't live in the immediate streets
> surrounding this new store it's not a problem. As
> long as you get your hands on some overpriced
> ready meals.
>
> I went in earlier (on foot) to buy butter, their
> basic variety was 1.30, walked back home jumped in
> car and drove to Lidl in Penge and paid 79p for
> same size. I'll be buying my wine from marks from
> now on though. When I can be bothered to walk.
>
> Louisa.

How much did the petrol cost to Penge and back? What about pollution from an unnecessary car journey? And did the butter taste good? Price of an item isn't the only consideration, important though it is.

How did this thread turn into yet another discussion about M&S??

In reply to your thread the old lady who used to live there was a retired music teacher who now resides in a local. Old people's home the building is in the hands of a relative who I believe as now it