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messageThe 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Ms Blueberry 31 May, 2015 12:19

Dear Owner of the shop front infecting the space between William Rose Butchers and His Lordship Launderette on Lordship Lane - this is an eyesore. At least get rid of the trashed awning.

Southwark Council! - is there anything to be done?

Does anyone know the story behind this prime piece of retail space?

A link: [www.google.co.uk]



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit was 2015:05:31:15:33:31 by Ms Blueberry.

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by DulwichFox 31 May, 2015 12:26

Its been like that for as long as I can remember..

DulwichFox

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Siduhe 31 May, 2015 13:01

It's been discussed on the forum a few times. People have posted that an elderly lady lives or lived there, and has done for most of her life and doesn't want to move. There was also a fire which damaged the shop a while back. No idea what the current position is, but it's a bit more complicated than you might think. And involves/involved a real person - so using words like "infecting" seems a bit out of proportion.

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Sue 31 May, 2015 13:51

Siduhe Wrote:
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And
> involves/involved a real person - so using words
> like "infecting" seems a bit out of proportion.


Agreed.

And the borough we live in is Southwark, despite its strange pronunciation smiling smiley

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Seabag 31 May, 2015 14:23

I like it personally, the blackness, the fly posters and the awning. Though im my heart i'm torn between this and the chinese chipshop behind the old Police station

Though this prime location you speak of would be ideal for a Pop-Up cup cake store

When the current owner is dead enough, i'm sure you'll get first dibs

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Laur 31 May, 2015 14:25

"Infecting"!
I completely agree with Siduhe.

As far as I can remember an elderly person lived at that address and has done for many years...it's her home and she's entitled to live how she wants to live after all these year as she's certainly been in the area a lot longer than others.

Live and let live

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Alan Medic 31 May, 2015 14:29

Sue Wrote:

>
> And the borough we live in is Southwark, despite
> its strange pronunciation smiling smiley

I listened to a Spaniard and Hungarian at work discuss this very subject the other day. That and other places in England.

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by DulwichFox 31 May, 2015 14:38

Seabag Wrote:
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> I like it personally, the blackness, the fly
> posters and the awning. Though im my heart i'm
> torn between this and the chinese chipshop behind
> the old Police station

AArrh the old Chinese Chip Shop.. I remember it well.

[www.google.co.uk]

The bare light bulb in the flat above would indicate someone lives here too.


DulwichFox



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messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Ms Blueberry 31 May, 2015 15:43

It's a derelict site which negatively effects everything around it and it's not the right thing to let a property go to rack and ruin.

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by uncleglen 31 May, 2015 16:01

Ahhh the advantagesquestion mark of living to a very ripe old age and being in an area where you can't afford the tradesmen and your grown up children can't afford to live near.....

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by edhistory 31 May, 2015 16:09

Ms Blueberry Wrote:
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> Dear Owner of the shop front infecting the space

That is not nice.

John K

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Ms Blueberry 31 May, 2015 16:42

Okay everyone - perhaps the word infecting is too harsh. It wasn't meant as a personal dig to the owner. What about the actual issue?

And I take issue with assuming that because the owner is an elderly lady, she is somehow incompetent. This is sexist and ageist. Does she need help? If so, that's an important issue to be address as well.

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by richard tudor 31 May, 2015 17:40

Ms Blueberry Wrote:
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> It's a derelict site which negatively effects
> everything around it and it's not the right thing
> to let a property go to rack and ruin.

If you close one eye it will appear half as bad.

message124 Lordship Laneattachment
Posted by edhistory 31 May, 2015 17:55

This is not local history.

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messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Andrew1011 31 May, 2015 18:10

I quite like it. It's a reminder of what quite a few of the shop fronts at this end of Lordship Lane used to be like. You only have to go a little way up the hill to see one or two similar examples.

Anyway, it's really not worth getting excited about, at least nowhere near as excited as Ms Blueberry appears to be. No doubt this 'prime piece of retail space' will eventually hit the commercial property market. After all, it's only gaining in value. And perhaps, who knows, it may even become the long awaited Waitrose, albeit a very little one.

I also suspect the kind of 'help' hinted at may not be what the said elderly lady is looking for or needs. Like many very elderly people, she may just wish to see out her days in her home of many years and in familiar surroundings, without being forced to conform and smarten up their property which could possibly be at great expense beyond their current means.

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Otta 31 May, 2015 18:30

Ms Blueberry Wrote:
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> It's a derelict site which negatively effects
> everything around it and it's not the right thing
> to let a property go to rack and ruin.


It's not derelict.

It doesn't seem to be negatively affecting anything around it judging by the queues outside William Rose.

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Jah Lush 31 May, 2015 19:00

Dear Ms Blueberry,

Shabby chic is all the rage these days is it not? I think it blends in rather well. The old lady who lives there is bang on trend. Gawd bless her.

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by richard tudor 31 May, 2015 19:02

If you are paying ED prices you don't want shabby chic but right on expensive for all to admire.

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Jah Lush 31 May, 2015 19:16

Expensive! You want a vulgar display of wealth do you? I doubt the old lady cares either way. And why should she.



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messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by richard tudor 31 May, 2015 19:31

Not her who thinks like me but the new Stepford Wife's/family arrivals.

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Jah Lush 31 May, 2015 19:43

Fair dos. Point taken.

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by NewWave 31 May, 2015 20:41

Ms Blueberry Wrote:
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> It's a derelict site which negatively effects
> everything around it and it's not the right thing
> to let a property go to rack and ruin.


Perhaps she can't afford to smarten it up-Is it actually causing you any harm looking like that? I think not-there are disused shopfronts like that on most London Local high streets.
I'm fuming that you (who probably wouldn't have pissed on this entire area if it was on fire before the gentrification started) have the audacity to fume on about a shabby shop front when all around families and pensioners are resorting to food banks. I'd rather the shop looked like that than got turned into a smug nappy valley vendor selling S**t that no one really wants " oh look! a mug with Peckham on it! a tea cosy covered in Owls! How lovely" ugh!
Rant over.

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by DulwichFox 31 May, 2015 20:50

NewWave Wrote:
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> Ms Blueberry Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's a derelict site which negatively effects
> > everything around it and it's not the right
> thing
> > to let a property go to rack and ruin.
>
>
> Perhaps she can't afford to smarten it up-Is it
> actually causing you any harm looking like that? I
> think not-there are disused shopfronts like that
> on most London Local high streets.
> I'm fuming that you (who probably wouldn't have
> pissed on this entire area if it was on fire
> before the gentrification started) have the
> audacity to fume on about a shabby shop front when
> all around families and pensioners are resorting
> to food banks. I'd rather the shop looked like
> that than got turned into a smug nappy valley
> vendor selling S**t that no one really wants " oh
> look! a mug with Peckham on it! a tea cosy covered
> in Owls! How lovely" ugh!
> Rant over.

That's a bit unfair New Wave.

When it comes to 'a mug with Peckham on it! or a tea cosy covered in Owls!
one of my favourite shops on Lordship Lane is Lush Designs .

After all I got my Foxy Tea Towels and Foxy Mug there.

Foxy.



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messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Ms Blueberry 01 June, 2015 07:17

I've privately been made aware of the situation and it's not as innocent as a nice little old lady exercising her 'live and let live' rights.

It's about another person trying to making as much money as possible at the expense of the community, your community.

However, there's nothing to be done here. So enjoy 124 in its current state while it lasts.



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messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by millie7uk 01 June, 2015 10:12

Right on foxy.

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by JohnL 01 June, 2015 10:18

Talking of dereliction

Someone had a ladder up the burnt out shop front that used to be
Greggs and the shop next door in Rye Lane today.

It's only been 4 years since the riots and someones having a look smiling smiley.

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by robbin 01 June, 2015 10:31

If Louisa and DF had their way, every shop front down Lordship Lane would look like that.

I agree though, just one shop front like that doesn't bother me. Whoever lives there has to put up with the stench of dead animal from the one side and dry cleaning chemicals from the other, so I'd be inclined to cut them some slack!

But then again, who actually knows why the building is like that? - it could be the old lady, or some grasping relative, or something completely different.

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Jennys 01 June, 2015 10:40

Ms Blueberry Wrote:
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> I've privately been made aware of the situation
> and it's not as innocent as a nice little old lady
> exercising her 'live and let live' rights.
>
> It's about another person trying to making as much
> money as possible at the expense of the community,
> your community.
>
> However, there's nothing to be done here. So
> enjoy 124 in its current state while it lasts.

Perhaps you could tell us more, Ms Blueberry?

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by DulwichFox 01 June, 2015 11:11

robbin Wrote:
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> If Louisa and DF had their way, every shop front
> down Lordship Lane would look like that.

Why did you find it necessary to include your little snide comment..?

It was totally unnecessary and uncalled for.

I respect the area I have lived in for the majority of my life..

Then you go on to add that the state of the place doesn't bother you..

DulwichFox

messageRe: The 124 Lordship Lane eyesore
Posted by Jeremy 01 June, 2015 11:22

Ms Blueberry's original post was rather over-the-top, but nevertheless I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to prevent their properties falling into complete decay.

"not derelict"? Well it bloody looks it, and has done for at least 15 years. If I lived nearby it would bother me. And if I was the owner/tenant/landlord/greedyrelative/etc, I would be embarrassed.

If it really is a penniless little old lady living there, then why not ask for some volunteers to tidy it up?

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