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Caravan?s moved into car park at the old Grove Tavern pub


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No they certainly have not. Now 6 caravans in the front of the car park and multiple loads of rubbish being dumped in the back of the car park. Can only assume they will continue the convoy of small trucks in and out to dump sofas, baths, rubble and whatever else they have. Whose idea was it to remove the concrete blocks that were in place to stop this from happening? This was destined to happen from the moment they were removed! The only surprising thing is it has taken so long.
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I believe the land is still governed by a lease from Dulwich Estates to the company that were running the pub before the fire so would it not be for that company to take action regarding eviction etc? They don't seem the slightest bit interested in the property so they could well do nothing.
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The concrete blocks have been replaced with locked gates, haven't they?


And I thought the car park was being used as a holding space for school buses so that they didn't obstruct local streets?


There is a thread on this somewhere.


So how did the caravans get in?

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Rob tolfts Wrote:

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> Went past earlier, they've left the lock on, just

> unbolted the gate from its hinges.

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> I assume that still constitutes breaking and

> entering?


I think I recall from the old days of Greenham protests etc that you have to actually enter a physical structure to be breaking and entering, if you just "break in" to open land it's only trespass.

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At least we can get our driveways tarmaced in the meantime.


Joking aside, are the local councillors and Dulwich Estate aware? If we can't change a porch, I don't see why these 'caravaners' have carte blanche. It is, however, a damning testament of the utter ruin that the pub has been left in for too many years. Are the Dulwich Estate and local authority even aware of the 'broken window' theory when it comes to neighbourhood decay?

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I have reported fly tipping to southwark council - but because it is in a carpark of an unused pub I am not sure will they be able to remove the rubbish. and I have tried to contact the police also.

Further rubbish was dumped ~30 mins ago. I tried to take a photo - but did not get the registration as I was too far away.

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