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messageAttn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by sarahsouthlondon November 23, 01:15PM

Over the past 3 weeks or so I've noticed a really shocking build up of litter on the streets around Dulwich Village, North Dulwich, Herne Hill and beyond. This is isolated bits of litter dropped everywhere - it is definitely NOT the work of a fox getting at a bin or similar.

I have tracked specific pieces of litter which have definitely been there for at least 3 weeks. I have also not seen any litter pickers in that time, nor have I seen litter bagged up in council bags left at sides of road for collection.

What's going on? Local councillors - have the cuts meant that the council has cut litter pickers? Otherwise I can't understand what's happening.

I keep wanting to pick it up myself but to be honest there is so much of it. Very depressing.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by nxjen November 23, 01:41PM

Sweeping up the fallen leaves, which increase year by year, keep them all busy at this time of year.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by sarahsouthlondon November 23, 01:54PM

But I haven't seen anybody sweeping those either and in fact they are building up too ...

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by Sue November 23, 02:30PM

There were two litter pickers in my street (off North Cross Road) last week, one on each side of the road.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by Penguin68 November 23, 03:03PM

We had leaf sweepers in Underhill this morning, and a couple or so weeks ago (mainly only one).

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by singalto November 23, 03:11PM

Pellatt road has just had a man with a leaf blower followed by a leaf hoovering lorry!

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by sarahsouthlondon November 23, 05:07PM

Ok, good news, esp re litter pickers. Still hoping a councillor will answer my question on here.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by rendelharris November 23, 05:18PM

sarahsouthlondon Wrote:
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> Ok, good news, esp re litter pickers. Still hoping
> a councillor will answer my question on here.

Better chance of an answer if you ask on their thread: [www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk]

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by ab29 November 23, 06:02PM

Same here - Lordship Lane / Wood Vale - rubbish all over the place and no one coming to clean the streets. A rubbish bin has disappeared from a bus stop near me few months ago which means people are throwing rubbish on the pavement; I have requested a replacement over a month ago but the council can't be bothered to deliver it.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by Sue November 23, 06:40PM

ab29 Wrote:
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I have requested
> a replacement over a month ago but the council
> can't be bothered to deliver it.


There could be all sorts of reasons why the bin hasn't been replaced. What makes you think the council "can't be bothered" to deliver it?

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by Monkey November 23, 09:33PM

Iíve noticed more rubbish on Dunstans Road and itís getting on my nerves. Two of my neighbours had wheelie bins with missing lids (and rubbish flying off everywhere)and getting those replaced, with the very efficient help of councillors, has helped. But I still pick up rubbish in front of my house every day, which has never been the case before.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by Peachpie November 23, 10:09PM

Good on you for picking up litter. Every little bit helps.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by Elaine25 November 23, 10:23PM

My mother slipped over on the leaves in our road she is 87. I spoke to two council workers the very next day when I saw them using a blowing machine and lorry with hoover they told me that it would only be done once a month!

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by Sue November 23, 11:41PM

Councils have had their money drastically cut.

I guess they have to decide where their priorities lie, unfortunately.

ETA: Hope your mother is OK, falling over is always a shock even if you are not physically very hurt sad smiley



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messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by Passiflora November 23, 11:59PM

Elaine25 Wrote:
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> My mother slipped over on the leaves in our road
> she is 87. I spoke to two council workers the very
> next day when I saw them using a blowing machine
> and lorry with hoover they told me that it would
> only be done once a month!

Hope your mum is recovering and I also dread treading on all the fallen leaves, especially as they don't seem to be swept up regularly.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by Passiflora November 24, 12:10AM

sarahsouthlondon Wrote:
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> Over the past 3 weeks or so I've noticed a really
> shocking build up of litter on the streets around
> Dulwich Village, North Dulwich, Herne Hill and
> beyond. This is isolated bits of litter dropped
> everywhere - it is definitely NOT the work of a
> fox getting at a bin or similar.
>
> I have tracked specific pieces of litter which
> have definitely been there for at least 3 weeks. I
> have also not seen any litter pickers in that
> time, nor have I seen litter bagged up in council
> bags left at sides of road for collection.
>
> What's going on? Local councillors - have the cuts
> meant that the council has cut litter pickers?
> Otherwise I can't understand what's happening.
>
> I keep wanting to pick it up myself but to be
> honest there is so much of it. Very depressing.

The bits of litter have probably been there for around 3 weeks because the leaves have not been swept for weeks and so you see it more! The falling leaves are more a problem but because of boundaries set up in the past couple of years by Dulwich/Southwark you could see one side of a road being swept, with the other side being left unswept.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by Sue November 24, 12:11AM

Sorry duplicate post



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messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by Elaine25 November 24, 08:27AM

Thank you mum my is recovering she was very lucky not to have broken something.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by sarahsouthlondon November 24, 10:46AM

So sorry to hear about your mother and glad she was not seriously hurt.
Ok, I am going to get in touch with Southwark direct and find out whatís happening.
Then I will try to organise neighbourhood litter picking volunteers.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by bels123 November 24, 02:31PM

We going to be sweeping leaves and picking litter on Melbourne Grove tomorrow 3-5pm during our Play Street. Agree litter levels seem to have been a lot worse lately and I also wonder if sweeping has been reduced by the council. Perhaps James Barber can confirm how often they used to be swept?



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messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by James Barber November 25, 10:06PM

Southwark Council state they litter pick every street every two days and sweep streets every four weeks.
But clearly this isn't working.

Amazingly still almost 100% manual sweeping and almost zero mechanisation.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by jamesmcash November 27, 03:06PM

Hi all

The council has not reduced street sweeping. Sadly this may have to be something to consider in the coming years though as austerity continues to bite.

Best wishes
James

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James McAsh - Labour Councillor for Goose Green ward
James.McAsh@Southwark.gov.uk

Surgeries: 2nd and 4th Thursdays of the month at 7pm, East Dulwich Community Centre on Darrell Road

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by wonderwoman November 27, 03:33PM

What's the remit for street sweeping as Friern road is complete slosh with leaves and rubbish uncleared for weeks let alone days.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by wonderwoman November 27, 09:50PM

How about rather than litter picking every 2 days and 4 weekly sweeping to just sweep and clean all streets once a week. Iím just wondering how much litter builds up on a daily basis on the street? Would an extra 50p per household be able to fund twice weekly cleaning and other community things. I for one wouldnít mind paying that.

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Posted by Nigello November 27, 10:05PM

Rubbish bins often disappear, more likely than not to reappear, like the one at the corner of Goodrich and CPR which is especially useful as it is on the route to three schools!
I pick up cans and bottles, usually about eight or ten a day, just walking around. Give it a go (but wash your hands afterwards, just in case!)

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by Passiflora November 27, 10:54PM

James Barber Wrote:
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> Southwark Council state they litter pick every
> street every two days and sweep streets every four
> weeks.
> But clearly this isn't working.
>
> Amazingly still almost 100% manual sweeping and
> almost zero mechanisation.

Went past Sunray Avenue this morning and there was one guy who had done a great job sweeping up a path free of leaves. The whole length of Sunray Avenue has been full of fallen leaves for days.

Nearby in Sunray Gardens there is a lone Southwark litter picker who has been there for years. His job is made harder by the local primary and secondary school children who regularly leave lots of litter.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by sarahsouthlondon November 28, 02:36PM

Thanks James from Southwark for replying.
And James Barber too - there is no way this is the case though! No way litter is being picked every two days. Since I originally posted my kids and I did a big litter pick on Sunray Avenue - they thought it was great fun, I was happy to get them motivated but sad there was SO MUCH to pick up including multiple alcohol bottles.
Since then I have noticed that Dulwich Village looks a bit tidier and there was some bagged up litter and I saw the leaves being cleared on Sunray Avenue - so very welcome improvement.
I also second the post above - while litter picking every two days would be great - once a week, or twice a week is perhaps more achievable.
Also agree re school kids and litter ... I know Charter School try to address this with their pupils but they don't seem to listen. I think the local primaries would be really happy to raise awareness with their kids and parents too. I might raise it with them. Though don't really want to add another burden to already very pressurised headteachers.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by Pugwash November 28, 02:40PM

We live on the corner of a main road and bus route and frequently have litter blown into our garden. Every so on I gather it up and bin it, also at times clear the pavement in front of my house. If everyone can do a little each week, that would assist.

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by Nigello November 28, 07:03PM

Goodrich, or at least the bits over Barry Road and away from LL, have been cleared of dead leaves. Dunstans tends to be more litter-strewn and some of it looks very aged!

messageRe: Attn councillors: Has Southwark council cut litter pickers?
Posted by Monkey November 29, 12:21PM

Dunstans Road doesnít look aged. Itís got new pavements and road surfacing unlike many roads in ED. And it didnít use to have a litter problem. This is linked to a very small number of households who were too lazy to order new wheelie bins to replace their broken ones (had to do it for them) and one other household constantly overfilling their blue bin.

Councillors, if a household doesnít look after their bins properly so rubbish flies out, does this count as littering? Can they be fined? Iíve really had enough this time.



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