macroban Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 I was down that way and I've now seen it with No.1 eye-ball.It looks incredibly dangerous. Accidents waiting to happen.Did Southwark Council do a rsk assessment before agreeing the work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratty Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Oooh, what's this? I drive it evry morning and evening and have not noticed a chicane. That's just begging me to see how fast I can take it! Watch out tonight about 6:30pm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonM Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Is this the one at the bottom of Spurling Road? I see it also permits cyclists to go the "wrong" way up there. Years ago I lived on that road and you'd get a double line of vehicles trying to exit it on to the roundabout in the mornings, which even then was a bit hazardous. Not really suitable for taking it fast then, unless you want to wrap the Porsche around the palm tree...>:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kford Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Is that the spur of pavement by the charity shop? Nearly rode into it on my motorbike this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 macroban Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> It looks incredibly dangerous. Accidents waiting to happen.I'm not sure I understand why it looks incredibly dangerous? And isn't it part of a new zebra crossing or was that idea scrapped too?[edited once] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJS Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 I am pretty sure it is done with the intention of the zebra crossing to come off it across the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karter Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Mark Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> macroban Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > It looks incredibly dangerous. Accidents waiting> to happen.> > I'm not sure I understand why it looks incredibly> dangerous? > > And isn't it part of a new zebra crossing or was> that idea scrapped too?> > >I think the Zebras were meant to be raised making it even more fun for cyclists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Erm, what's a chicane? :-$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidmarks Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I think you mean they?ve added a defection into roundabout to slow vehicles on the approach. Not good on this roundabout owing to its size, as rightly said by someone above is that cycles and motorcyclists get squeezed between vehicles and the buildout used to create the deflection.Southwark under best practice should have undertaken a road safety audit (ask for it). There isn?t a mandatory requirement to do these on local roads only on highways agency roads but knowing Southwark they would have done one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostThePlot Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I thought it was also a trip hazard, given the way there was no attempt to blend the surface into the existing pavement, so there is a lip, about 1 1/2" high where they join. One for claimdirect methinks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Why have they tried to make the approaches one lane to the round about as it just slow's every thing down?????Bob S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I still don't know what a bloody chicane is :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macroban Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 I'm sure skidmarks can explain this better than me, but the transitional curves look all wrong, and deceptive alignments can be dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Eh?:-$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Can someone post a picture so I know what this thread is about?Please?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I'll run down there and take a picture for you now Sue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidmarks Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 bob Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Why have they tried to make the approaches one> lane to the round about as it just SLOW'S every> thing down?????> Bob SI think you have answered your own question there. They don't want traffic bombing through especially as there are zebra crossings on the arms..at a guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Didn't know I was that clever rush's off for job a council trafic Dept.Bob S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Mick Mac Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I'll run down there and take a picture for you now> Sue.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxWHERE IS IT??!!:)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I looked up chicane on Google, and I'm still none the wiser :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladymuck Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Sue Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Erm, what's a chicane? :-$Thank goodness! (I was too embarrassed to be the first to ask)! So, ANYONE, what's a chicane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jim Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 It's a dumb idea. You used to be able to get two cars out of LL. Now it's one. So the traffic backs up making it harder to cross - that or tempts people to cross between the cars.If pedestrians are interested in safety, they should try looking before crossing at the zebras rather than assuming drivers are psychic and know they're going to cross. A little give and take on both sides would go a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm78 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 This is a chicane :)http://4e.img.v4.skyrock.net/4e6/tedscalextric/pics/1970400175_small_1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I've negotiated it twice now when driving and haven't found it a problem. As a pedestrian, however, that crossing was always a little scary because of the two lanes - far side driver wouldn't see you until you were half way across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsav Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 a chicane, SUE, is: an artificial feature creating extra turns in a roadway, used in motor racing and on city streets to slow cars.On LL I'd guess the 'extra turn' involves turning two lanes into one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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