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messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by JohnL 30 November, 2017 10:18

Trump now rebuking "@theresamay" with her 6 followers.

"Instead of tweeting to the Prime Minister, he sent his riposte to a Theresa May Scrivener, 41, who reportedly lives in a flat near the Bognor seafront."

It's like something from Brass Eye.



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messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by JohnL 30 November, 2017 12:09

The commons kicking off over Trump - it's like they're all looking for someone to blame.

"The urgent question triggered vitriolic criticism of a US President never before heard in the House of Commons.
Mr Trump was branded “fascist” and “stupid”, accused of spreading “evil” and of being “racist or incompetent or ignorant or all three” – some of the strongest attacks coming from Conservatives."

They even suggested he should delete his account.

[www.independent.co.uk]

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by SpringTime 30 November, 2017 12:45

Ah yes - they are looking for someone to blame.

A couple of nasty examples of Islam at work and you're worse than Hitler.

Meanwhile we wait for the next terror attack, national mourning, rainbow colours, not in my name, wait for the next attack, etc.

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by rendelharris 30 November, 2017 12:49

SpringTime Wrote:
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> A couple of nasty examples of Islam at work and
> you're worse than Hitler.

I think the fact that at least one of them is demonstrably false (as confirmed by Netherlands police) has something to do with the outrage.

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by SpringTime 30 November, 2017 13:04

Fair point - although if they need any real clips there are millions of them of course! Trust Donald to pick a doughnut...

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by snowy 30 November, 2017 13:20

And the same could be said about many people and many different faiths, so what's your point?

Are you supporting British First's Penge Poundland fascist?

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by JohnL 30 November, 2017 13:21

SpringTime Wrote:
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> Ah yes - they are looking for someone to blame.
>
> A couple of nasty examples of Islam at work and
> you're worse than Hitler.
>
> Meanwhile we wait for the next terror attack,
> national mourning, rainbow colours, not in my
> name, wait for the next attack, etc.

For me it's not the images (I know what happens in some countries) - it's re tweeting an organisation like Britain First which IMHO is evil and obnoxious and it seems most MPs whether Tory, Labour or other agree with this.

Please don't support these people [en.wikipedia.org]



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messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by JohnL 30 November, 2017 13:24

Theresa May should respond by making Britain First a proscribed organisation I think.

The last MP to call for this got death threats [www.huffingtonpost.co.uk]



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messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by JoeLeg 30 November, 2017 14:08

SpringTime Wrote:
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> Ah yes - they are looking for someone to blame.
>
> A couple of nasty examples of Islam at work and
> you're worse than Hitler.
>
> Meanwhile we wait for the next terror attack,
> national mourning, rainbow colours, not in my
> name, wait for the next attack, etc.


If all that Britain First were about truly was raising awareness of the dangers of Islamic Jihadist terror then fair enough.

But that's isn't their deal. They were born in the discredited ashes of the BNP and try to pass themselves off as moderate when they're anything but.

Seriously, after 9/11, 7/7, Madrid, endless years of A-Q, Daesh and rancid little murderers occasionally managing to evade MI5 and carry out whatever attacks they can, I don't think anyone in this land needs to be reminded of how bad these ultra-hardcore fools can be. We know. And I think we also know that they are far less effective than they used to be, having been reduced to using vans and knives, as opposed to guns, bombs and airliners. Are their some extremists in our midst? Of course there are. How many other Muslims are there, going about their daily business not bombing, stabbing or raping anyone?

For Britain First, Islam merely serves as a useful tool. Someone to blame. I have no love for any extremists and I don't shed a tear when a drone strike obliterates them; live by the sword, die by the sword. But BF are nationalists. First and foremost, nationalists look to blame the problems of their society on other people. First, the Muslims, but if they had their way they wouldn't stop there.

That's why video clips like that are so dangerous. No context, no clarity, no verification. In this age of social media it's easier than ever for them to spread lies and simply accuse those who oppose them of being appeasers and defeatists.

Now where have we heard that before? That's why they're dangerous.

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by JohnL 30 November, 2017 15:14

Anyway Theresa May now finds herself in the vanguard through no fault of her own, or as the Standard says at the end of it's opinion page

"Above all, the liberal world is willing Mrs May and Mr Johnson to punch back. Stick with the patient work of a year, or respond to the demands of the day?

Welcome to Trump’s world."

[www.standard.co.uk]

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by SpringTime 30 November, 2017 15:44

JoeLeg and JohnL I'm not a BF fan. Shan't be part of a nice Christian organisation like that!

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by JohnL 30 November, 2017 15:58

SpringTime Wrote:
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> JoeLeg and JohnL I'm not a BF fan. Shan't be part
> of a nice Christian organisation like that!

I wasn't criticising you personally Springtime - I don't like Britain First though smiling smiley

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by SpringTime 30 November, 2017 16:09

That's alright - they're far too left wing for me anyway winking smiley

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by malumbu 30 November, 2017 19:27

I see from the Wiki entry it was set up by Jim Davidson. Doesn't surprise me as his humour always verged on racist. Funnily enough people I know of in deepest south east east east London/ North Kent find Davidson hilarious,

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by Loz 30 November, 2017 19:49

malumbu Wrote:
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> I see from the Wiki entry it was set up by Jim
> Davidson. Doesn't surprise me as his humour
> always verged on racist. Funnily enough people I
> know of in deepest south east east east London/
> North Kent find Davidson hilarious,

Jim Dowson.

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by JohnL 01 December, 2017 07:30

malumbu Wrote:
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> I see from the Wiki entry it was set up by Jim
> Davidson. Doesn't surprise me as his humour
> always verged on racist. Funnily enough people I
> know of in deepest south east east east London/
> North Kent find Davidson hilarious,

LOL What a B****d and I notice he's now calling himself "The Peoples Comedian"

[www.jimdavidson.org.uk]

I'm Joking

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by malumbu 01 December, 2017 10:42

Nice one JohnL. Loz, really????

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by JohnL 02 December, 2017 10:36

Stool Pigeon and he's singing

[www.independent.co.uk]

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by diable rouge 05 June, 2018 23:57

Si John Redwood était le POTUS...smiling smiley

[twitter.com]

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by JohnL 09 June, 2018 09:58

I agree Mr Trump - the Maybot it goes on and on and on and on

[www.telegraph.co.uk]

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by JohnL 09 June, 2018 12:19

Trump totally blanking May at the G7 opening now. Merkel has a word. May looks lonely.

Donald Tusk has turned up.

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by Alan Medic 09 June, 2018 19:03

May is only looking lonely (if that's what it is) because she is no craic and has been programmed only to say certain sentences. I'd be bored too even if she is PM.

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by rendelharris 10 June, 2018 19:10

Trump's trade advisor has announced today that "there is a special place in hell" for Justin Trudeau, claiming his comments came "straight from Air Force One". Stone me.

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by dbboy 10 June, 2018 19:23

Do we really want, need or have to discuss Trump, like his name full of hot air and a buffoon. But then most from the USA are loud mouthed, never met a quiet or civilised one.

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by rendelharris 10 June, 2018 20:15

dbboy Wrote:
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> Do we really want, need or have to discuss Trump,
> like his name full of hot air and a buffoon. But
> then most from the USA are loud mouthed, never met
> a quiet or civilised one.

We certainly neither want nor need him, but he's not going to go away if we ignore him. I have several American friends who are amongst the most civilised people I know - a top flight classical musician, an excellent painter, a former Cambridge English don...though none of them are quiet, I'll give you that.

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by JoeLeg 10 June, 2018 21:20

I don’t really understand why Trump/‘Murica thinks the rest of the world won’t feel free to retaliate with tariffs.

Trudeau isn’t popular within Canada, but most Canadian citizens are rallying behind him over this; they’re furious at Trumps attitude towards Canada, and all he’s doing is succeeding in shoring up Trudeau, who was floundering somewhat.

Yes, Trudeau stabbed Trump in the back, from one point of view. Quite why Trump is surprised that someone finally pushed back is beyond me.

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by JohnL 11 June, 2018 10:44

It's being mentioned as Trudeau's 'love actually' moment.


Trump has directed comment at the (other) war of 1812 - of course the americans started it smiling smiley

[theconversation.com]

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by diable rouge 14 June, 2018 09:44

Trumpy needs to brush up on his maths before telling porkys...

Trump claims, preposterously, that parents of Korean War veterans came up to him during the 2016 campaign and said, "when you can, we'd love our son to be brought back home -- you know, the remains."

The Korean War ended in 1953.

messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by rendelharris 14 June, 2018 10:10

diable rouge Wrote:
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> Trumpy needs to brush up on his maths before
> telling porkys...
>
> Trump claims, preposterously, that parents of
> Korean War veterans came up to him during the 2016
> campaign and said, "when you can, we'd love our
> son to be brought back home -- you know, the
> remains."
>
> The Korean War ended in 1953.

They'd only have to be 101...

ETA He also said "they came up to me on the campaign trail and said 'when you can, president, we'd like our son's remains to be brought home...'" So they were calling him president back in 2016...



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messageRe: A general thread to discuss Trump
Posted by JohnL 16 June, 2018 12:01

Trump admires the way North Korean citizens treat Kim and wants US citizens to treat him in a similar way. Of course if you treat Kim with disdain or mock him within North Korea you and your family will get carted off to the camps.

I actually wonder if that's what Trump has in mind as he must know what happens.

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