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messageSharing coursework with course colleagues - would you do it?
Posted by Ole 01 March, 2017 13:15

Hi all, I'm in my 40s and I am having school flashbacks. Here it goes...

I'm doing a professional qualification and as part of the exam we have to do a piece of coursework. We have submitted drafts to our course tutor before submitting it to the qualifying body, and my course tutor has suggested to another student that she asks me to see my draft assignment so that she can see what to aim for [smug pat on the back for me].

My instinct is to say: 'Of course, here it is have a copy, have my firstborn child, have my house, everything', because I am a people pleaser and I don't like to say 'no', and also because I would love for somebody to share their assignment with me too if I was in her shoes.

However.....a long long time ago when I was doing A levels I let a friend copy a Biology essay and we got caught and we both got 0, so I learnt that lesson.

These days and in grown up courses, is letting somebody else see my exam coursework cheating? But I don't know how to say 'no', and I will have to see the student most weeks for the rest of the course, and there is more than 6 months to go, and I just want to be loved. But how would they find out if I share my assignment? Would it even matter? What if Who knows, but I'm of the paranoid type - can you tell?

What would you do? I'm back in the playground!

messageRe: Sharing coursework with course colleagues - would you do it?
Posted by JohnL 01 March, 2017 13:36

Google I did and the first result from Leicester Uni

"Students should not be doing each otherís assessed work. Students often help each other and share ideas (which is ok) but if their work is too similar they both lose marks for copying!"

So I wouldn't show my work but I'd be happy to talk about it - a bit of a compromise for nice people smiling smiley.

messageRe: Sharing coursework with course colleagues - would you do it?
Posted by nxjen 01 March, 2017 13:44

There are alarm bells going off in my head on your behalf. Who has approached you about showing your work to another student? I may be out of touch but if it was the course tutor there is something very unprofessional about this, surely s/he must have samples of coursework to show the other student,it seems the tutor is passing the buck without being aware of the possible implications. If it is the other student saying the course tutor has suggested you show her your work - well ....

I would do nothing and if asked directly again just "forget", you are under no obligation to share the fruits of your labour. Six months will pass soon enough, in a year's time you'll have forgotten all about it.

messageRe: Sharing coursework with course colleagues - would you do it?
Posted by KidKruger 01 March, 2017 14:21

I wouldn't do the 'just forget' thing, because that's stringing someone along and would be unfair and wasting the other student's time and expectations.
Just make-up your mind what you're prepared to do and tell whoever that's your decision / as far as you'll go, you can explain why if challenged but it should be obvious from the way you tell tem anyway.
IMO no point risking your own results, also only provide time if you can really afford to - I find adult education is such a squeeze already !

Having said that - I did computing and maths and used to sell my assignments to the tail-end Charlies who were always late, trick was to have a couple of solutions and not sell the one you submit.

messageRe: Sharing coursework with course colleagues - would you do it?
Posted by uncleglen 01 March, 2017 18:00

Definitely not if it is going to be submitted formally. People say they will not copy but they do if they are desperate enough to ask. If someone gets a good grade from your work and they are not competent, they may get a job and not be able to do it- so you are not doing them any favours. All unis etc have anti-plagiarism software as well- (an example of this -schools get caught out, kids submit similar coursework or cut and paste from the internet and everyone is penalised)

messageRe: Sharing coursework with course colleagues - would you do it?
Posted by ianr 01 March, 2017 20:27

As a possible heuristic, what would be your view if the tutor had suggested that she look at his own draft version of the sort of work that would be required? And is there any useful distinction to be made between having a look at a draft and (as you propose) being given a copy of it?

messageRe: Sharing coursework with course colleagues - would you do it?
Posted by Jules-and-Boo 01 March, 2017 21:28

No chance. A tutor should not ask you to share your work.
As for saying no., practice it in a mirror.

JohnL has a good answer.

messageRe: Sharing coursework with course colleagues - would you do it?
Posted by TheCat 02 March, 2017 08:45

Agree with the sentiment here...dont share the work. Sounds like the tutor is saving him/her-self the effort of actually doing any 'tutoring'....

messageRe: Sharing coursework with course colleagues - would you do it?
Posted by miga 02 March, 2017 09:03

When I started doing my MSc in a slightly tangential field to what my degree was in, I was flabbergasted at how
"result focused" a lot of my colleagues were. A lot of people in their 20's, 30's, 40's who were already working, doing a course to help them in their career or to change career (presumably), paying for it (or being sponsored by their employer), but totally focused on marks, rather than on learning the thing itself. There was a lot of whingeing about how the material was delivered ("wah, wahhh, where are the video recordings"), assignment "group work" etc. I felt quite bad for the course coordinator, to be honest. As for copying - if it's maths or some kind of quantitative thing, there's usually a right way to do it, so as long as presentation is different, I guess it's more a question of personal ethics.

messageRe: Sharing coursework with course colleagues - would you do it?
Posted by Ole 02 March, 2017 09:05

Thank you all for taking the time to reply.

I have decided I'm not going to share, but what I'm going to do is tell her what chapters of the recommended reading I found useful and offer to have a chat with her before the next lecture. I'm investing a lot of time (and money) into this course and for all I know, although she seems lovely and I'm sure she means well, if she copied outright then it would be obvious, and it is part of an exam not just class homework, so it is not worth the risk.

If that makes me the class unpopular girl.....well, I've dealt with bigger and nastier.....

messageRe: Sharing coursework with course colleagues - would you do it?
Posted by uncleglen 02 March, 2017 16:05

You can actually pay independent anonymous people on the internet to do the essay writing these days. Even medical students will get these people to research and write their essays in order to get the marks....but as miga said it is focusing on the marks and not the accumulation of the actual knowledge that some of them are after....when they come to sit exams they are having to learn from scratch because they didn't put the time into the coursework.

messageRe: Sharing coursework with course colleagues - would you do it?
Posted by TomS12 May 11, 09:02PM

A lot of people do that.

messageRe: Sharing coursework with course colleagues - would you do it?
Posted by ianr May 12, 07:15PM

TomS12 Wrote:
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> A lot of people do that.

Which 'that' do you mean?

messageRe: Sharing coursework with course colleagues - would you do it?
Posted by TomS12 May 18, 08:43AM

I meant the service


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