BJ making an absolute tit of himself and by association the country. Jeremy Corbyn not doing much better by calling for a general election he doesn’t stand a chance of winning, in fact nobody does. I don’t like living through these interesting times.
UK to reject high speed rail (damned continental idea) and with the reopening of the pits move back to steam power. Gunboat diplomacy next. Hopefully there there is also dynamite strategically placed in the Channel Tunnel too.
I'm guessing Corbyn's cross party meeting yesterday deciding to go down the legislative route to stop No Deal rather than the oft presumed VONC route straight after recess, spooked Johnson's junta into action. They want a VONC so they can play the People v MPs election card if they lose it.
By proroguing parliament for 5 weeks it severely limits the time to get legislation through before the next recess and not enough time after the Queen's Speech. However, they may have hit the prorogue button in haste according to this tweet...
Proroguing now would be a bit futile, since under s3 of the Northern Ireland Executive Formation Act 2019, if Parliament is prorogued by 4 September then it must be recalled within 5 days, for 5 days.
Even without my Remainy McRemain hat on, I would always back Grieve to outsmart Cummings when it comes to parliamentary procedure in the battle of the Doms...
IRS disgusting . Even more ridiculous that mps are on a summer recess then I read another one due due to conference season . How often do we read all police leave cancelled if there is a more emergency. Surely the same for mps?
Brexit is now far less likely than ever before. I wonder if Boris has done this on purpose to create a Pinscher movement from the lagging remainers, so he can point fingers when Brexit doesn’t happen, call a GE, galvanise support to win a majority, and walk away from the whole Brexit debacle scott free.
> Brexit is now far less likely than ever before. I
> wonder if Boris has done this on purpose to create
> a Pinscher movement from the lagging remainers, so
> he can point fingers when Brexit doesn’t happen,
> call a GE, galvanise support to win a majority,
> and walk away from the whole Brexit debacle scott
> Or something like that.
> Seems ironic that democracy is suspended to enable
> democracy “the will of the people”. Clearly a
> selective democracy.
Unfortunately, it appears that very few people on either side of this debate actually give a f#*k about democracy. They just care about getting the outcome they want, whether that's leave or remain.
When leavers were trumpeting the need to respect the democracy of the referendum result, remainers would clutch at straws like 'it was only advisory' or 'it was only 52 percent'...democracy not really a prime concern.
Now, with the profoundly undemocratic parliamentary suspension, it's leavers clutching at straws trying to justify the suspension of parliament, similarly democracy not a prime concern.
Sadly shows how toxic this entire debate has become...very few (on either side) seem to care for process or principle as long as they get their preferred outcome.....
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> When leavers were trumpeting the need to respect
> the democracy of the referendum result, remainers
> would clutch at straws like 'it was only advisory'...
That was a very important point though, had the referendum not been advisory it would have been anulled due to the Leave campaign breaking electoral spending rules. The Electoral Commission's hands were tied precisely because it was ''only advisory''.
> Sadly shows how toxic this entire debate has
Very true, but this has been the doing of the Leave side from the word go. When we needed a Gov to try and unify the country behind a version of Brexit that reflected the closeness of the vote, which a lot of Remainers would've accepted at the time, we instead got May's red lines and the voice of Remain ignored and replaced with insults such as 'citizen's of nowhere', 'queue jumpers', 'enemies of the people' and so on. Now Johnson, despite promising to do the opposite, has managed to divide the country even more. Whatever the outcome it will take a very long time to heal this disunited kingdom, what's left of it...