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messageWhat exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by Wayne24 March 09, 02:17PM

Does anyone know what the heck happened with this failed venture?

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by jimbo1964 March 09, 03:12PM

I was thinking the same. Did it ever actually open?

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by goldilocks March 09, 03:55PM

They opened but then had to close to re work some of the electrics and said they'd re open later. Not sure since then whether any of the work has been done and whether they have a reopening date ready? There was a thread though that they were commenting on so you could ask on that if you search?

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by DulwichFox March 09, 04:00PM

It opened for 3 - 4 days but as I understand it, the electrics failed.

Should of been rewired before all the building works were carried out.

Bit late now. Sounds like it will all need redoing.

Its what happens when you take short cuts.

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by tiddles March 09, 04:53PM

And why are you assuming they took short cuts? Sounds like bad luck to me.
I wish them all the best and look forward to their re-opening.

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by DulwichFox March 09, 06:15PM

tiddles Wrote:
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> And why are you assuming they took short cuts?
> Sounds like bad luck to me.
> I wish them all the best and look forward to their
> re-opening.


Well when you rewire any building you do it when the floors are up and the ceilings are down.
Wiring goes in the walls before they are re-plastered.

This would seem to me wasn't done.

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by tiddles March 09, 08:05PM

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was march 10, 04:04am by tiddles.

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by julesheaton March 10, 07:56AM

Hi Wayne

Thanks for the message. We haven't 'failed' because we haven't opened yet! We had an issue with the power and gas nothing to do with rewiring or general electrics. The whole building was completely rewired as part of the renovation. Those issues are now sorted.

We have also spent the quiet months of Jan and Feb renovating the upstairs function room which is looking great. It's not quite finished yet but when it is we will be opening with a very tasty menu and look forward to seeing you hopefully.

Cheers
Jules

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by JoeLeg March 10, 09:30AM

Oh look - DulwichFox in ďdoesnít know what heís talking about but makes assumptions anywayĒ shocker.

At least youíre consistent Foxy...

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by se22cat March 10, 10:33AM

That's great to hear Jules, btw I love your place's sign, great job there!

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by CHrisED March 10, 10:44AM

Canít wait for you to open. Iíve nearly eaten the menu it looks so good!

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by julesheaton March 10, 12:37PM

Hi DulwichFox

It's Nick here, Jules' husband. Just to let you know I've worked on building sites in Lancashire from the age of 13 (and I'm 50 now) so I'm incredibly offended and insulted that anybody would suggest I've 'taken shortcuts' especially from someone who has no facts or knowledge about what has happened over the last 9 months. My team and I have worked tirelessly renovating a rotten building. As for taking shortcuts it's currently cost me the best part of £300,000 so people publicly spreading lies and untruths is unhelpful to say the least. However given your concern about the 'shortcuts' that I've apparently taken, I'd like to invite you to come into the restaurant next week to see for yourself the 'shortcuts' that you accuse me of taking. Please let me know when you would like to come and look around the building and I'll personally give you a guided tour.

I would also like to invite anyone else who feels compelled to speculate about our new venture to come in and have a look too!

Thanks
Nick




DulwichFox Wrote:
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> It opened for 3 - 4 days but as I understand it,
> the electrics failed.
>
> Should of been rewired before all the building
> works were carried out.
>
> Bit late now. Sounds like it will all need
> redoing.
>
> Its what happens when you take short cuts.

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by JoeLeg March 10, 01:06PM

Hi Nick,


Foxy has form (a lot of form) for spouting utter garbage about stuff he knows nothing about, as youíve just experienced, particularly where the hospitality industry is concerned (he seems to think we all make a fortune off the back of huge profit margins, hahahahaaaah, oh Foxy you do make me laugh...).

I wouldnít take it personally, but nor would I expect an apology.

Good luck with Saucy, Iíve been involved with enough new openings to know how things can go sideways with no warning.

messageCanít wait for Saucy to open
Posted by alice March 10, 01:34PM

Looking forward to eating there

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by carlafindle March 10, 02:38PM

JoeLeg Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hi Nick,
>
>
> Foxy has form (a lot of form) for spouting utter
> garbage about stuff he knows nothing about, as
> youíve just experienced, particularly where the
> hospitality industry is concerned (he seems to
> think we all make a fortune off the back of huge
> profit margins, hahahahaaaah, oh Foxy you do make
> me laugh...).
>
> I wouldnít take it personally, but nor would I
> expect an apology.
>
> Good luck with Saucy, Iíve been involved with
> enough new openings to know how things can go
> sideways with no warning.


Perhaps the dulwichfox has a touch of the 'dunning-kruger effect'?

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by Chick March 10, 07:13PM

Hi Nick,

I'd be up for this?



julesheaton Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hi DulwichFox
>
> It's Nick here, Jules' husband. Just to let you
> know I've worked on building sites in Lancashire
> from the age of 13 (and I'm 50 now) so I'm
> incredibly offended and insulted that anybody
> would suggest I've 'taken shortcuts' especially
> from someone who has no facts or knowledge about
> what has happened over the last 9 months. My team
> and I have worked tirelessly renovating a rotten
> building. As for taking shortcuts it's currently
> cost me the best part of £300,000 so people
> publicly spreading lies and untruths is unhelpful
> to say the least. However given your concern about
> the 'shortcuts' that I've apparently taken, I'd
> like to invite you to come into the restaurant
> next week to see for yourself the 'shortcuts' that
> you accuse me of taking. Please let me know when
> you would like to come and look around the
> building and I'll personally give you a guided
> tour.
>
> I would also like to invite anyone else who feels
> compelled to speculate about our new venture to
> come in and have a look too!
>
> Thanks
> Nick
>
>
>
>
> DulwichFox Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It opened for 3 - 4 days but as I understand
> it,
> > the electrics failed.
> >
> > Should of been rewired before all the building
> > works were carried out.
> >
> > Bit late now. Sounds like it will all need
> > redoing.
> >
> > Its what happens when you take short cuts.

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by jimbo1964 March 10, 08:07PM

Perfect response to shameless speculation.

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by tiddles March 10, 08:12PM

Spot on

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by DulwichSal March 10, 08:34PM

Really pleased to hear that entrepreneurs are prepare to (and are able to ) put right years of neglect which you canít see at site survey. Having just bought a hotel in Suffolk that all surveys said was in good nick... and we know how that can go. Itís cost us a similar amount of money but we are delighted to invest in the community there. You would think ED locals would be happy that people will take a risk. Shameless speculation can really tar a business but more and more real people find it less credible.

Wishing you the best and will be in as soon as we can.

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by Wayne24 March 10, 09:35PM

Kudos to Jules and Nick for replying to this thread and setting the record straight.
Also looking forward to seeing it re-open.
And have also noticed how quiet DulwichFox"news" has been since being corrected.

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by natty01295 March 10, 10:19PM

Be Nice to see Website Updated!!!

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by Sue March 11, 11:52AM

Wayne24 Wrote:
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> And have also noticed how quiet DulwichFox"news"
> has been since being corrected.


On past form, he will be quiet for a bit then carry on as if nothing has happened.

When presented with actual facts he doesn't generally respond, let alone apologise.

It's a bit like Donald Trump but more boring.

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by Willard March 11, 11:57AM

Dulwichfox:

Is that the sound of tumbleweed I can hear?

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by YTC March 11, 12:38PM

Foxy, you there mate?

Glad this is opening up soon, walked up a few times expecting it to be open. A notice on the window might be handy!

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by DulwichFox March 11, 12:51PM

I have not replied due to ill health.
I took a break before Xmas because of serious illness.

I have been in Hospital and had a procedure which could or could not extend my life.

After 2 CT Scans, 1 MRI Scan, 4 endoscopies 4 biopsies and a surgical procedure
Kings have not been able to ascertain If I have a Life threatening malignant IPMN in my Pancreatic Duct.
or what is called a Pancreas divisum which is a congenital anomaly (an anomaly that is present at birth) of the pancreatic duct(s).

I have had a Stent inserted that will need another operation to remove.
They may insert another stent which will require a 3rd operation to remove.

I am in intense pain and my pancreas may need to be removed leaving me dependent on insulin and digestive enzymes.
How ever Kings do not think I am well enough to survive that procedure.

So I'm sorry but I have more things to worry about than that of when a new restaurant will reopen
Chances are I will not be here by the time it does.

I will say no more on the subject. I trust you will give me a break.
I suspect there are a couple of people here that will continue to kick a man when he's down.


DF

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by Penguin68 March 11, 12:52PM

DF got it wrong - apparently. May well have been misinformed. I wonder what real pleasure can be got from trashing? And crowing. Aren't we (shouldn't we be?) better than that.

Amended to say - cross post with above - hope your pain (DF) recedes and you can get back to a more normal life.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was march 11, 12:55pm by Penguin68.

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by Hemingway March 11, 01:08PM

I am sorry to hear you are ill Dulwich Fox

But being really ill doesn't excuse potentially ruining someone's buisiness with ill informed and ignorant speculation just two days ago.

And, at the end of your long post, you couldn't even say: "sorry, I was wrong"

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by jimlad48 March 11, 01:17PM

Hemingway Wrote:
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> I am sorry to hear you are ill Dulwich Fox
>
> But being really ill doesn't excuse potentially
> ruining someone's buisiness with ill informed and
> ignorant speculation just two days ago.
>
> And, at the end of your long post, you couldn't
> even say: "sorry, I was wrong"

I fully agree - I am deeply sympathetic, but ultimately DF has made an utterly wrong accusation that could backfire against the restaurant in question who are, without doubt, owed an apology.

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by alice March 11, 01:17PM

D Fox Get better soon - best wishes and try to ignore self righteous posters.

messageRe: What exactly is going on at SAUCY?
Posted by DulwichFox March 11, 02:01PM

alice Wrote:
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> D Fox Get better soon - best wishes and try to
> ignore self righteous posters.

Thank you Alice. Very kind

These are the first 3 posts in this thread,

1 Does anyone know what the heck happened with this failed venture?

2 I was thinking the same. Did it ever actually open?

3 They opened but then had to close to re work some of the electrics and said they'd re open later.


They did not recieve any bad comments and one does suggest there WAS a problem with the Electrics.

There are a couple of sad people here who have a personal grudge against myself.

I'm not too concerned.

Having used the previous establishment Curry Cabin for 46 years.
I used it back in 1972 and was there on the night it closed with the Curry Club.

I was aware of the poor state the dining area had become. Never went to the kitchen.
but was never ill after several 100's / 1000+ ?? curries over the years.

I was keen to see what the new owners did with the place. As I knew the Christmas tree man outside
the shop I stopped daily to chat and at the same time kept up with the progress of work.

I was impressed with the work that was being done. I know how much these things cost.
I've spent over £16,000 up grading my own domestic kitchen, Units, Flooring, Ceilings Windows and doors.
Electrics Plumbing. and the need to get it right first time.

I really hope the owners are able to sort things out soon and reopen.
Its in a good spot and could do well.

Looked in again today but sadly no sign of work in progress, ??

DulwichFox

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