As much as you might like a Wetherspoons in ED, I don’t think pubs come into being via a petition normally, do they? Particularly not if there is a tenant already running a viable business in those premises.

Humdinger Wrote:
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> Also, the myth that spoons buy all their beer just
> before it is about to go out of date is exactly
> that- a myth. They buy their beer at very
> competitive prices, because of their buying power.
> there is about 800 spoons, breweries etc actually
> want spoons to stock their beer, so sell them
> their beer cheaply.

Actually to be fair to Wetherspoons I'm much less likely to get a bad pint in there than some other places and as they also sell so much the beer it probably isn't stored for very long before it's drunk.

The quality of their beer isn't an issue.

DuncanW Wrote:
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> As much as you might like a Wetherspoons in ED, I
> don’t think pubs come into being via a petition
> normally, do they?

Yes but clearly that's not what this thread is really about, is it?

Same tired prejudice.
Same kind of responses naturally.
Next is calling-out the responders as posh, privileged, holier-than/thou, need to get in the ‘real world’.
Repeat To Fade.....

KidKruger Wrote:
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> Same kind of responses naturally.

If that's aimed at me in some capacity - I plead guilty for fuelling the flames/feeding the troll. I can't help it.

fishbiscuits Wrote:
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> KidKruger Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Same kind of responses naturally.
>
> If that's aimed at me in some capacity - I plead
> guilty for fuelling the flames/feeding the troll.
> I can't help it.


Yes you can help it. But you choose to take a valid thread off topic to feed your own ego. This is a genuine thread to discuss a way of diversifying the nightlife culture of the neighbourhood. Nothing more, nothing less. I wanted to gauge opinion on throwing a chain pub in the mix to see if it would appeal. That’s all. But thanks for your contributions anyway, very constructive.

Louisa.

Loutwo Wrote:
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> you choose to take a valid thread off topic to feed your own ego. This
> is a genuine thread to discuss a way of diversifying the nightlife culture of the
> neighbourhood. Nothing more, nothing less.


Loutwo Wrote:
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> Maybe it’s just the wannabe nature of some locals. They’d like to
> aspire to Mayfair, but can barely afford Clapham or Battersea, so get stuck round here.

fishbiscuits Wrote:
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> Loutwo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > you choose to take a valid thread off topic to
> feed your own ego. This
> > is a genuine thread to discuss a way of
> diversifying the nightlife culture of the
> > neighbourhood. Nothing more, nothing less.
>
>
> Loutwo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Maybe it’s just the wannabe nature of some
> locals. They’d like to
> > aspire to Mayfair, but can barely afford Clapham
> or Battersea, so get stuck round here.

Could you point me to a single thread on this forum which does not deviate off point? If you fail to notice a sarcastic comment said in jest and use it as a tool to discredit my thread, then don’t bother contributing. Or, if you want to troll, maybe take a look at some other threads, if not nearly all of them, which have also been dragged off topic at some point. Thanks.

Louisa.

Reading this from last post upwards and I am confused - can someone summarise?

Here's something vaguely on thread to entertain you

[www.theguardian.com]

Loutwo...

You have made reference a number of times to the 'diversity' of the Wetherspoons clientele. How are they are more 'diverse' than the clientele in existing local pubs?

I'll concede that the two crowds may be different from each other - so the overall diversity of local pub goers, in aggregate, may be improved with a spoons in the area - but how specifically is a spoons more diverse in itself?

I reckon many pubs would be hard pushed to match the diversity of the EDT to be honest....

Anyone been to The Castle lately ? Isn't that more of a C2DE-type establishment ?

ed_pete Wrote:
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> Anyone been to The Castle lately ? Isn't that
> more of a C2DE-type establishment ?

What the Frigging hell is a C2DE-type establishment ?

Foxy

ETA.

Last time I used The Castle, I went to the Loo and in the back passage to the Loo
my foot went through a hole in the rotten floor covered with a piece of rotten carpet.

Not been back since. #Dump



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C2DE are the three lower social and economic groups in a society, used especially to refer to consumers in this group and their buying behaviour.

Louisa.

Alan Medic Wrote:
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> Tim Martin is an idiot. If you don't see it,
> you're an idiot too!

Typical Remainiac response- you cannot win an argument so you resort to personal insults.

Speaking of the Castle, if a Wetherspoons opened in SE22 it would probably be the end of the Castle.

KidKruger Wrote:
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> Speaking of the Castle, if a Wetherspoons opened
> in SE22 it would probably be the end of the
> Castle.

Not at all. Wetherspoons offer a completely different pub model to the Castle. For starters you wouldn’t get live sports in a spoons, and correct me if I’m wrong but that’s one of the main draw points for them. They also do not serve food, last time I went in. Again, a completely different demographic. The Castle appeals to older men not interested in food, a Wetherspoons appeals to a broad range of different groups but importantly doesn’t offer a sport package.

Louisa.

nah, all the old men that go into the Castle would start going to the Wetherspoons, as despite the Castle being the most reasonable pub around, it would still be considerably cheaper in a Spoons.

Humdinger Wrote:
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> nah, all the old men that go into the Castle would
> start going to the Wetherspoons, as despite the
> Castle being the most reasonable pub around, it
> would still be considerably cheaper in a Spoons.


It might depend where the Spoons was situated.

If just having a cheaper pint was what appealed, they could use their Freedom Passes now to go to the one in Forest Hill, a short bus ride away.

So if they don't, there must be some other reason to stay with The Castle. Like the telly.

We used to go to The Castle fairly often until the new manager replaced Jenny (and neither of us are old men, btw, but it had a great juke box and good Guinness).

First time we went after that, the new manager turned off our music (which we had paid for) and put on some absolutely dire middle of the road (well, bottom of the road) Irish music so loudly we had to take our pints outside, and as it was also very loud outside (poor neighbours) we finished said pints quickly and left.

Never to return. Which maybe I'm being paranoid but it felt like that was her intention.

Don't get me wrong btw, I love a lot of Irish music, but this was truly terrible

I personally would like a Wetherspoons round here, but I can't see it's going to happen.

But this thread is just an excuse for the usual (expletive deleted), isn't it?



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DulwichFox Wrote:
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> What the Frigging hell is a C2DE-type establishment ?

It's a not-particularly-tactful way of saying that it's frequented by builders and tradesmen. Which certainly used to be true 15-20 years ago. Not really sure about now, haven't been there in so long (since the smoking ban, probably!).

Mmmh I do know a Builder mate of mine that uses the Castle on occasion but in the
past it seemed to be frequented with loud drunk teenagers getting pissed and playing Pool and fighting.

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> Mmmh I do know a Builder mate of mine that uses
> the Castle on occasion but in the
> past it seemed to be frequented with loud
> drunk teenagers getting pissed and playing Pool
> and fighting.


That's in the other bar

Would never patronise a pub owned by Tim Martin

Anyone else playing 'Bl0w-In Bingo'? I just need ''rip-off'' for all 4 corners...

I’m playing it. Even without my contribution we’ve somehow managed to get Brexit in the mix, and C2DE. I still need ‘yummy mummy’ and ‘posh cheese on toast’ to get my four corners.

As you were everyone.

Louisa.



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Wetherspoons is a necessary evil. One of those places you want to hate and I avoided for years. But as the prices elsewhere go up it sort of breaks you down. There are times when it can be quite scummy and the beer feels like it is the barrel end, other times a better selection and you appreciate the wider demographic. Owner is still an rrsss though, and likes to publicise it too.