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messageattempted muggging (in the Unicorn, Rye Lane) - Lounged
Posted by JohnL August 28, 11:40PM

at the John the Unicorn - furiously tweeting anti BJ tweets lol - some young boys tried to take my phone - furious almost threw my pint over him - he ran away

I've seen the same boys at bus stops on rye lane - will put up photo if I see them

and LOL moaned to @patel4witham as well as the Met

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by DulwichFox August 29, 08:41AM

Rye Lane is a No-Go zone after dark. What do you expect.

I would not dream of walking around that area on my own at night.

Its why even young kids feel the need to carry knives.

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by nxjen August 29, 08:50AM

Sorry to learn this JL but at least you got an extra g out of it

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by cella August 29, 09:00AM

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> Rye Lane is a No-Go zone after dark. What do you
> expect.
>
> I would not dream of walking around that area on
> my own at night.
>
> Its why even young kids feel the need to carry
> knives.

Rye Lane is not a no go area. It has a thriving night time economy, Random crime can happen anywhere. Try leaving Lordship Lane occasionally.
.

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by peckman August 29, 09:37AM

There are dickheads everywhere .. even on lordship lane ..agree that generally peckham is safe .. I've been mugged quite often but only paying for a overpriced pint

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by JohnL August 29, 10:21AM

I was OK - the Landlord gave me a free pint to replace the one that was spilled too smiling smiley

Worth noting they will try and grab through windows though.

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by DulwichFox August 29, 10:43AM

cella Wrote:
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> DulwichFox Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Rye Lane is a No-Go zone after dark. What do
> you
> > expect.
> >
> > I would not dream of walking around that area
> on
> > my own at night.
> >
> > Its why even young kids feel the need to carry
> > knives.
>
> Rye Lane is not a no go area. It has a thriving
> night time economy, Random crime can happen
> anywhere. Try leaving Lordship Lane occasionally.
>
> .

I walk down Rye Lane frequently during the day. Its a Shite Hole. the place is derelict.

I would really like to know where all these marvellous Bars and Restaurants are ?
Are you referring to McDonalds, KFC, of one of the other Fried Chicken places. ? Plenty of those.

There is no evidence of these places during the day.
Certainly no Bars/Pubs open during the day.

Perhaps they are hidden behind all the Graffiti covered shutters.

No Indian Restaurant apart from Ganapati ?? If you like sharing a bench with 6 - 8 other people
No Chinese , Italian , French.

There is a reasonable Turkish that does not sell alcohol BYO

I do not see the point of going to Peckham if you live in East Dulwich.

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by Sue August 29, 10:45AM

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> Rye Lane is a No-Go zone after dark. What do you
> expect.
>
> I would not dream of walking around that area on
> my own at night.
>



Oh FFS, no it isn't.

But then not so long ago you posted on here saying you would not walk anywhere near the Gowlett at night.

Get a grip!

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by Sue August 29, 10:46AM

DulwichFox Wrote:
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>
> I do not see the point of going to Peckham if you
> live in East Dulwich.


Have you actually been to Peckham in the last few years, Dulwich Fox?

ETA: Oh, I see you say above that you go there frequently. Do you walk about with your eyes closed???



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was august 29, 10:47am by Sue.

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by Humdinger August 29, 10:57AM

Its a shame the pint glass didn't 'slip' out of your hand and shatter on the skull of the little thief.

There are lots and lots of these in Peckham. They are badly brought up scum of the earth, and will likely have a life of in and out of prison to look forward to.

Saying that, Rye Lane is hardly a 'no go area'. Its a complete dump (although it gets considerably worse the closer you get to Peckham High Street) but hardly unsafe. My biggest gripe is actually trying to walk through it which is very difficult due to incredibly slow moving, large people with nothing better to do than stand around a grim high street blocking the paths and roads.

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by Brulysses August 29, 11:03AM

Dulwich Fox, I'm afraid you are talking utter nonsense, Peckham is no worse than any other area in south London, there are loads of decent restaurants on Bellenden Rd, Choumert Rd ranging from tapas to Thai street food, Dim Sum, Italian, good burger joints as well as the Bussey building, Frank's Cafe, Peckham Springs, Brick Brewery closer to and on Rye Lane...I could go on. So do try not to let your snobbery get the best of you, it's unbecoming and unfounded.

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by stepdown August 29, 11:45AM

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> I would not dream of walking around that area on
> my own at night.
>
> Its why even young kids feel the need to carry
> knives.

...sure you're not thinking of Lordship Lane? [www.bbc.co.uk]

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by DulwichFox August 29, 11:46AM

Sue Wrote:
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> DulwichFox Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Rye Lane is a No-Go zone after dark. What do
> you
> > expect.
> >
> > I would not dream of walking around that area
> on
> > my own at night.
> >
>
>
>
> Oh FFS, no it isn't.
>
> But then not so long ago you posted on here saying
> you would not walk anywhere near the Gowlett at
> night.
>
> Get a grip!

The Gowlett is part of Peckham even if they think its in East Dulwich.

What do you mean. Get a Grip. ?
Do you walk around (On you own) late at night in Peckham ?? Do You ?

Have you been Mugged and knocked unconscious. ? Have you ?

Get a grip ???

I supposed anyone out and about 'Pissed up' is going to be totally oblivious to any danger.

Fox

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by DulwichFox August 29, 11:50AM

Brulysses Wrote:
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> Dulwich Fox, I'm afraid you are talking utter
> nonsense, Peckham is no worse than any other area
> in south London, there are loads of decent
> restaurants on Bellenden Rd, Choumert Rd ranging
> from tapas to Thai street food, Dim Sum, Italian,
> good burger joints as well as the Bussey building,
> Frank's Cafe, Peckham Springs, Brick Brewery
> closer to and on Rye Lane...I could go on. So do
> try not to let your snobbery get the best of you,
> it's unbecoming and unfounded.

Are these places disguised as Nail Bars during the day ? smiling smiley

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by peckman August 29, 12:07PM

Dulwich fox .. what a miserable life you must lead .

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by peckman August 29, 12:09PM

Are you sitting in your million pound house in east dulwich moaning about how shit things are ? Stay there .. everyone else is living there life

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by DulwichFox August 29, 12:36PM

peckman Wrote:
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> Are you sitting in your million pound house in
> east dulwich moaning about how shit things are ?
> Stay there .. everyone else is living there life

My House is not worth 1,000,000.

My House cost me 88,000 back in 1996

There are six houses of my type one sold recently for 640,000

The houses cost 70 each in 1887 when they were built and the rent was 5 per year.

I would happily take 750,000 for my house.

Yes. I am sitting in my House.
Its the third working day sitting in waiting in for Dulwich Medical Centre to call me about a medical condition
that they say requires serious medical attention.

DF

And I do live my life. I go out EVERY night eating or drinking.
I have done more or less for the last 50 years. I stay in 2 or 3 nights a month.



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messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by clintmcjam August 29, 01:19PM

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> peckman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Are you sitting in your million pound house in
> > east dulwich moaning about how shit things are
> ?
> > Stay there .. everyone else is living there
> life
>
> My House is not worth 1,000,000.
>
> My House cost me 88,000 back in 1996
>
> There are six houses of my type one sold recently
> for 640,000
>
> The houses cost 70 each in 1887 when they were
> built and the rent was 5 per year.
>
> I would happily take 750,000 for my house.
>
> Yes. I am sitting in my House.
> Its the third working day sitting in waiting in
> for Dulwich Medical Centre to call me about a
> medical condition
> that they say requires serious medical attention.
>
>
> DF
>
> And I do live my life. I go out EVERY night eating
> or drinking.
> I have done more or less for the last 50 years.
> I stay in 2 or 3 nights a month.

If that's been your lifestyle for the last 50 years, then the medical condition you refer to is probably either morbid obesity or Type-2 diabetes.

messageRe: attempted muggging (in the Unicorn, Rye Lane)
Posted by walkman85 August 29, 01:29PM

Peckham is certainly over rated and this kind of event should come as no surprise at all around there.

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by Brulysses August 29, 01:29PM

Brulysses Wrote:
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> Dulwich Fox, I'm afraid you are talking utter
> nonsense, Peckham is no worse than any other area
> in south London, there are loads of decent
> restaurants on Bellenden Rd, Choumert Rd ranging
> from tapas to Thai street food, Dim Sum, Italian,
> good burger joints as well as the Bussey building,
> Frank's Cafe, Peckham Springs, Brick Brewery
> closer to and on Rye Lane...I could go on. So do
> try not to let your snobbery get the best of you,
> it's unbecoming and unfounded.

Are these places disguised as Nail Bars during the day ? smiling smile

Your snobbery is still showing and getting worse, I'm expecting some casual racism in a minute...what a sour, unpleasant person you are.

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by RobSE15 August 29, 01:35PM

I have to say that I do take exception at Rye Lane being labelled a s****hole. Surely DulwichFox must realise that a considerable number of forum users live on Rye Lane or in the immediate vicinity? Is that really what this forum is for - slagging off each other's areas? Wouldn't sympathy for the original poster, perhaps with thanks for the warning etc. would be a more normal response?

messageRe: attempted muggging (in the Unicorn, Rye Lane)
Posted by Sazzle30 August 29, 01:47PM

Peckham has been fine to me at night (Im a 30 something female who feels perfectly safe heading home alone during the day or v late at night after being out.)Lived there 5 years now after moving from East Dulwich (which my mum refers to as East DULLwich as she found it boring, she loves going down the lane and getting cocktails from Peckham Springs and Bar Story weve even staggered home at 11pm alone - shes from Wiltshire so her first trip to Peckham was an eye opener or her! )
Agree the lane doesnt look great but there are lots of good places to eat. Admittedly you have to look for them.

Try the restaurants on the triangle (Nigel road) bus stop - Peddler, Bahn Bahn etc and the White Horse is a great pub which although gentrified still managed to keep its regulars and attract the gentrification crowd.

Peckham has changed a lot in the last 5 years Ive been here. Perhaps start with going for Sunday lunch?

I can recommend Forza Win for amazing Italian food which is great on a Sunday.

Agree their could be more Indian restaurants (but Ill go back to ED for them). Although there is Asian Take & Away under the arches at Peckham rye station (right hand side as you come from ED) - they make their own naans and the curry is great and cheap as chips

The Motown coffee man in the starvation is a legend and does great coffee

messageRe: attempted muggging (in the Unicorn, Rye Lane)
Posted by binkylilyput August 29, 01:55PM

JohnL good you are ok and still have your phone- shame your pint didn't go over him!

Thanks for raising awareness too. It's nice to sit in the window of John Unicorn and enjoy a drink in the sun. Same can be said for Meatliquor on Lordship. I hadn't thought about the potential for belongings to be snatched and of course this is just as likely on Lordship as it is on Rye Lane.

I love Peckham and Rye Lane. Has been less pleasant with the recent major road works but otherwise it's a bustling high street that has so far avoided gentrification (not that I'm cussing out Lordship.....there is space for both and diversity is a positive thing).

I particularly like Rye Lane on a Sunday when people are out in their national dress for church and there can be singing and gospel music heard.

I'll say it again- I welcome diversity.

messageRe: attempted muggging (in the Unicorn, Rye Lane)
Posted by alice August 29, 01:56PM

Agree with Rob15. Theres an excruciating nastiness in some of the above posts.

messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by Sue August 29, 02:05PM

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> Do you walk around (On you own) late at night in
> Peckham ?? Do You ?


I have done in the past, and I would do it again.

When I'm walking alone at night anywhere in London (or indeed, anywhere) I would be aware of what was going on around me.


> Have you been Mugged and knocked unconscious. ?
> Have you ?


No. What's that got to do with it?

My sister was mugged and her hand slashed with a knife. About forty years ago. In broad daylight. On a crowded street in Central London, if memory serves.

These things can happen anywhere.



> I supposed anyone out and about 'Pissed up' is
> going to be totally oblivious to any danger.



If you are referring to me, I don't walk around alone "pissed up" (what a very strange expression).


ETA: Belated sympathy to JohnL, and glad you are OK.



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messageRe: attempted muggging
Posted by fishbiscuits August 29, 02:07PM

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> I would really like to know where all these
> marvellous Bars and Restaurants are ?

On Rye Lane, or just off it : Bar Story, Brick Brewery, Peckham Springs, Honest Burgers, Levan, Il Giardino, Cravings La Carretta, CLF Art Lounge, Bar Om, Miss Tapas, Flamin Mangal, 200 Rye Lane, White Horse, Banh Banh, Pedler, Mr Bao, Voodoo Ray, Four Quarters, Taco Queen, John The Unicorn, Rye Wax, Bussey Rooftop, Yadas, Forza Win, Kanpai, the many outlets in Peckham Levels, Franks bar... I'm sure I've missed several. New things are opening all the time.

Then plenty more places to eat and drink in Bellenden Rd area, and also round Queens Rd too.

There is, in fact, much more choice in Peckham than East Dulwich. People travel there to go out eating, drinking, clubbing... you can't really say that about ED. However, I will admit that Peckham is pretty scruffy and not to everybody's taste, and some of these places are a bit hidden away. East Dulwich has a more laid back, affluent, suburban, family-friendly feel. If I'm taking my parents (in their 70s) out for lunch or dinner, it would usually be in ED because it's much more in their comfort zone. But if I'm going out for drinks with friends, I wouldn't really bother with ED these days.

messageRe: attempted muggging (in the Unicorn, Rye Lane)
Posted by katanita August 29, 02:25PM

Sorry to hear about the attempted mugging, a useful reminder to be alert (anywhere! The two pub thefts I've experienced first hand happened on Carnaby Street and near Kings Cross).

Bizarre suggestion that Rye Lane is a no-go zone. Have spent many a lovely evening without incident in the places named above by fishbiscuits (including with my parents - took my mum for her 75th to Pedler and very good it was too). @Fishbiscuits, you missed the Peckhamplex and several other places behind the Bussey, but I lose track of exactly what is there now. I prefer going out in Peckham to ED to be honest, much more going on there.



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messageRe: attempted muggging (in the Unicorn, Rye Lane)
Posted by DulwichFox August 29, 02:38PM

I must have a stroll one evening.

messageRe: attempted muggging (in the Unicorn, Rye Lane)
Posted by RichH August 29, 04:26PM

Me too.

I'd thought that, along with the graffiti, the writing had been on the wall for Rye Lane ever since Jones & Higgins closed.

Sounds like it might have made a bit of a comeback and is worth a revisit.

messageRe: attempted muggging (in the Unicorn, Rye Lane)
Posted by fishbiscuits August 29, 06:36PM

katanita Wrote:
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> @Fishbiscuits, you missed the Peckhamplex and
> several other places behind the Bussey, but I lose
> track of exactly what is there now.

DulwichFox asked about bars and restaurants, so I didn't mention the cinema in my response. But yeah, I missed out some of the Copeland Park places, and The Coal Rooms, and others. Yep, definitely much more going on in Peckham than ED. Some of the things are a bit tucked away, but exploring is part of the fun I guess.

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