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messageRe: More protests in Westminster: Saturday & Tuesday
Posted by Sephiroth September 04, 04:03PM

Better than nothing is still a paltry thing

The backstop was welcome - but what is the point of leaving the eu if we are still subject to all the same rules without any influence over them? I could live with it up to a point, but leavers? The same ones who would take to the streets if we remain? Nah

messageRe: More protests in Westminster: Saturday & Tuesday
Posted by pk September 04, 04:16PM

Loutwo Wrote:
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> It’s all deeply undemocratic to
> expect the general populace to have any sort of
> understanding over and above “Do you wish to
> remain in the EU?” YES or NO.
>
> Louisa.

Of course it isn’t deeply undemocratic to provide people with adequate and accurate information to allow them to understand what NO means

Because as we can see NO doesn’t mean the same to everyone so in fact an oversimplified question like that is very undemocratic

It’s equivalent of saying in a GE do you vote for the government or against it

messageRe: More protests in Westminster: Saturday & Tuesday
Posted by Sephiroth September 04, 04:23PM

Honestly I sometimes think it’s because this country has pushed the idea of being subjects rather than citizens for so long, that they have such a weird deferential forelock-tugging attitude to posh voices

“Thus us cluuurlay an affront to democracy”

“Ooh ‘ee’s right yknow!!”

messageRe: More protests in Westminster: Saturday & Tuesday
Posted by JohnL September 04, 06:04PM

Sephiroth Wrote:
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> Honestly I sometimes think it’s because this
> country has pushed the idea of being subjects
> rather than citizens for so long, that they have
> such a weird deferential forelock-tugging attitude
> to posh voices
>
> “Thus us cluuurlay an affront to democracy”
>
> “Ooh ‘ee’s right yknow!!”

How many times I've been told I should lose my Welsh accent - yet it's still there.

Posh speakers do get promoted faster - but so do tall handsome men (IMHO)

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