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messageSecondary School Allocations 2019
Posted by echo March 01, 05:51AM

Up very early! Just waiting for that email....



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messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by hazelnunhead March 01, 09:53AM

Good luck to all parents and children waiting on their secondary school allocation - fingers crossed for a happy outcome!
We went through this last year, and what was really good was that within a couple of days, all the sschools we had applied for emailed us to let us know where we were on the waiting list / distances they offered to / what to do if we wanted to stay on the waiting list - so we had a clear idea of what to do. As you ahve probably heard, there is much movement and changes during the next month or so



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messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by Monkey March 01, 10:51AM

Good luck to everyone.

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by mich March 01, 04:54PM

6 minutes to go! Its felt like the longest day EVER!

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by newtose22 March 01, 05:33PM

We've just heard we got Sydenham School which was our first choice. So relieved as very close to last years cut off.

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by hpsaucey March 01, 05:49PM

It the website down for anyone else? Tried multiple devices and browsers...

HP

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by Bumpkin March 01, 06:10PM

Is down for me. Had a text just after 5pm saying I've been sent an email, but no email yet and website down.

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by Bumpkin March 01, 06:12PM

but is up now!

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by hpsaucey March 01, 06:13PM

Definitely down for most then. We have a Whats App group for our class and only one person's posted to say what they got and others report can't log on. Not good on offer day! Renata - if you're checking in - do you know what's going on?

HP



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messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by johnie March 01, 06:24PM

Ah well, as expected nothing from our list, instead Harris Acedemy Peckham. Didn't want that for our dyslexia challenged girl.

Here come the waiting lists.

I'd suggest the oversubscribed schools really shouldn't bother with open days, there is no point. It is just a lottery, and is just will upset kids who then set their hearts on something. I also think the sibling thing is quite unfair at secondary. By then all kids are making their own way to school.

Spitting feathers, we have had this fiasco for 15 years with our kids. Invest and build more schools you austerity obsessed tossers.

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by Renata Hamvas March 01, 07:30PM

Hi Johnie,
I'm sorry that you didn't get any of your choices. If you think of other schools you would like to consider, you can be added to their waiting lists. There is usually significant movement on waiting lists between now and September. Unfortunately LAs can't open any new schools themselves.

I have reported that there is an issue for some parents to log into the system (yes HPSaucey, I had spotted this thread!). I suspect that there may be some IT issue as I have received no emails since 5.15pm. Usually we get some information on this year's stats but I haven't received this yet.
Renata

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by hpsaucey March 01, 07:52PM

Renata Hamvas Wrote:
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> Hi Johnie,
> I'm sorry that you didn't get any of your choices.
> If you think of other schools you would like to
> consider, you can be added to their waiting lists.
> There is usually significant movement on waiting
> lists between now and September. Unfortunately LAs
> can't open any new schools themselves.
>
> I have reported that there is an issue for some
> parents to log into the system (yes HPSaucey, I
> had spotted this thread!). I suspect that there
> may be some IT issue as I have received no emails
> since 5.15pm. Usually we get some information on
> this year's stats but I haven't received this
> yet.
> Renata

Thanks Renata.

HP

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by sleepy-li March 01, 08:17PM

Does anyone know if you can you add your child to a waiting list for a school that wasn't one of your original 6?

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by mrsw March 01, 08:18PM

I still haven’t got email but got a message via the app at 6.45. So stressful waiting I was beginning to wonder whether I’d applied at all! Got St Thomas the Apostle.

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by kristymac1 March 01, 08:29PM

sleepy-li Wrote:
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> Does anyone know if you can you add your child to
> a waiting list for a school that wasn't one of
> your original 6?
You can add your child to any waiting list - irrespective of your 6 'choices'
X

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by Monkey March 01, 08:30PM

I see Lewisham has published distance information:
[www.lewisham.gov.uk]



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messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by carlybloom82 March 01, 10:38PM

My heart goes out to anyone that didn’t get there choice of school tonight, this was us last year.
Sydenham was our first choice school and was offered Harris academy peckham!!
Please hang in there, there will be lots of movement especially after the Easter half term.
To see my daughter so upset everyday broke my heart as I felt like I had no control over the situation.

It worked out ok in the end for us and my daughter moved down the waiting list and get her first choice school at the end of April.

Stay positive and hope it works out for everyone that didn’t get a place they wanted

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by kristymac1 March 01, 10:50PM

johnie Wrote:
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> Ah well, as expected nothing from our list,
> instead Harris Acedemy Peckham. Didn't want that
> for our dyslexia challenged girl.
>
> Here come the waiting lists.

Really sorry you're in this position today - very stressful for you and your daughter.
Our daughter started at Harris Girls last year - it wasn't her first choice (although me and husband were impressed when we visited). It is a very good school, very pastoral (despite the Harris reputation) - have you considered it for your daughter? It's reputation from yesteryear still seems to follows it around and lots of folk turn it down when allocated so a waiting list position might be a shout?
Hope everything works out and sending uber good vibes in the mean time

I also think the sibling thing is quite unfair at
> secondary. By then all kids are making their own
> way to school.
>
Totally agree!

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by echo March 02, 06:19AM

We got Deptford Green it was our second choice. It seems a good school for our girl who is dyslexic. The school was very impressive on their open day.

Jonnie- Do go and visit- It's a community school and lewisham seem to have put a lot of effort and money to develop it. Current parents appear to like it too, including teachers at my daughters school in camberwell. Ofsted seems not to agree- but he ho isn't that all about the government wanting to accademise every community school in the land!



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messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by telemum March 02, 09:28AM

Thinking of you all. We had a very similar experience to Carliebloom above this time last year, after expecting to get Sydenham and receiving none of the schools on our list (35 metres too far away!). The lists do move (though Syd was very, very slow after an initial flurry and there were children near us who didn't get in until after September). We eventually won on appeal- although that was totally unexpected. But we also loved Deptford Green when we went to see it after our daughter's allocation, and it was a tough decision to accept Sydenham when the appeal was won. The head is very inspiring, and I loved the range of subjects. I would have been happy for our daughter to go there. So do add yourself to waiting lists and consider some other options if you've had a shock. It can be a horribly tough time- but most people I know were happy by September.

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations 2019
Posted by johnie March 02, 10:28AM

Hi Renata, Khristy, Echo

Thanks for your kind words and sorry all for my minor rant. I'm just so frustrated as this has happened on every primary and secondary admissions day we have suffered. Our kids are 9 years apart, so never benefited from the sibling thing. We know most of the secondary schools pretty well, as we know friends' kids who went.

I know it is a waiting game, we have been there and done the tribunals and all that. It has worked out for us in the end before, it is just a dull slog and stressful for the kids.

All we want is localish schools that aren't a real slog to travel to, where there may be a few friends from primary. Echo, I know Deptford is good, a friends son did well there, but his mates don't live close by so he always came home on the bus alone.

Anyway, as I said, it isn't the end of the world, just really really annoying. Good luck all.

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations 2019
Posted by Monkey March 02, 11:25AM

I agree, Johnie.

I have a friend whose daughter is dyslexic and couldn’t be happier with Harris Girls ED, if this helps.

On another note, do we know what the distance is for Charter ED this year?

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by colabottle March 02, 12:29PM

I was in the exact same position last year, having Sydenham down as our first choice, and getting none from our list, and offered Peckham Academy. I really understand how stressful this can be and upsetting for your daughter. I would also advise calling Harris Girls - they were so lovely and understanding when I contacted them in a panic last year.

What I didn't know then, which I wish I had known about, is that there are specialist lawyers who can help you put together a case for appeal (even though they don't go to the appeal with you). If your child falls into an SEN category then I think there is also legal aid available. If you'd like any more information please feel free to message me.

From my experience of last year it does eventually work out, but it's so hard waiting. Good luck and try to stay positive.

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations 2019
Posted by Monkey March 03, 11:45AM

Surprised not to see more posts. Is the Southwark school allocation website still down?

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations 2019
Posted by Andrea2881 March 03, 02:25PM

My daughter was allocated St Savoir St. Olaf at New Kent Road. Not the worse school but not thrilled either . We really wanted Harris ED as they came across as so pastoral, especially for children who have may SPLD's. Does anyone have any experience of St. Saviours?

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations
Posted by sarvester March 09, 02:13PM

Hi Renata, did the council publish the % children getting their first choice, etc? It doesn't seem to be on theirs website. Also I think in previous years there's been some sort out drop-in help sessions, do you know if any area being held?

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations 2019attachment
Posted by James Barber March 10, 06:43PM

Hi sarvester,
After chasing via Lib Dem councillors I've obtained this for 'on time' applications for secondary school places:

"
The data below relates to Southwark residents only and will be used to produce London-wide statistics that form the basis of the Pan London press statement, coordinated by London Councils, that will be released at 5pm today.
• All 3,048 of Southwark’s on-time secondary school, applicants have been offered a school place for September 2019.
• 2,742 (90.0%) applicants have received a place at a secondary school of their first to sixth preference
• 2,530 (83.0%) applicants have received a place at a secondary school of their first to third preference .
• 1,813 (59.5% ) families received a first preference school.
• 306 (10.0%) families without a preference have been offered an alternative school.
• 3,042 (99.8%) of Southwark applicants submitted an on time online application this year.
"

This doesn't compare will to London or England. Stats across councils and nationally will be available from April and summarised by Dept For Education in June - [assets.publishing.service.gov.uk]
2018 secondary school offer day 82.1% offered first choice secondary school in England vs. 59.5% this year in Southwark, 93.8% across England offered fist 1-3 choices vs. 83.0&% in Southwark.

Was this what you were looking for?

--------------------
Regards jamesvbarber@gmail.com
former Liberal Democrat Councillor for East Dulwich Ward (2006-2018)
[www.jamesbarber.org.uk]
[twitter.com]



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Attachments: Summary of preferences allocated to Southwark residents Secondary 09-19.xls (24KB)  
messageRe: Secondary School Allocations 2019
Posted by brezzo March 10, 08:30PM

St Saviiour's & St Olave's last OFSTED was ten years ago and they were outstanding. I assume it is a good sign if OFSTED haven't been back.

The progress eight score this year was .56 "well above average" Data for Southwark here.

[www.compare-school-performance.service.gov.uk]

Was it one of your choices?

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations 2019
Posted by goldilocks March 11, 09:10AM

Without wishing to downplay what is undoubtedly a stressful time for those not offered their first / second preference, I'm not sure that comparing the Southwark figures to national figures is a fair comparison.

In a lot of areas outside London boroughs parents simply don't have the breadth of choice of potential schools that we have here. I understand that 'choice' may not be the position some people are it, but by it I mean that there are a large number of schools within a reasonably small area given density of population.

A better comparison would really be to other London boroughs.



James Barber Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hi sarvester,
> After chasing via Lib Dem councillors I've
> obtained this for 'on time' applications for
> secondary school places:
>
> "
> The data below relates to Southwark residents only
> and will be used to produce London-wide statistics
> that form the basis of the Pan London press
> statement, coordinated by London Councils, that
> will be released at 5pm today.
> • All 3,048 of Southwark’s on-time secondary
> school, applicants have been offered a school
> place for September 2019.
> • 2,742 (90.0%) applicants have received a place
> at a secondary school of their first to sixth
> preference
> • 2,530 (83.0%) applicants have received a place
> at a secondary school of their first to third
> preference .
> • 1,813 (59.5% ) families received a first
> preference school.
> • 306 (10.0%) families without a preference have
> been offered an alternative school.
> • 3,042 (99.8%) of Southwark applicants submitted
> an on time online application this year.
> "
>
> This doesn't compare will to London or England.
> Stats across councils and nationally will be
> available from April and summarised by Dept For
> Education in June -
> [assets.publishing.service.gov.uk]
> t/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/7156
> 50/2018_School_Application_Offers_Text.pdf
> 2018 secondary school offer day 82.1% offered
> first choice secondary school in England vs. 59.5%
> this year in Southwark, 93.8% across England
> offered fist 1-3 choices vs. 83.0&% in Southwark.
>
> Was this what you were looking for?

messageRe: Secondary School Allocations 2019
Posted by Monkey March 11, 04:31PM

This whole system really is a waste of time and money for everybody: students, parents and teachers too when you take into account open days, banding exams, and the huge amount of time administering the whole system.

After many school visits i’m told I have to go to, DD will still most likely be offered a place at our nearest school which, while good, doesn’t offer the foreign languages I want her to learn.

I’m going to sound very old, but “in my time” all schools offered English (brought up in France), German and Spanish and you could easily get yourself into the ones which also offered Italian and Russian.

This really is a mess.

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