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messageNursery fees while closed
Posted by marypink March 26, 10:43AM

Hello,

Just keen to understand what nurseries are doing these days in terms of fees while they're closed.
Our nursery is closed for key workers' children too and is asking for 60% of the fees, although committing to pay staff full pay.
I'd like to understand what all the rest of the nurseries are doing, please.

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by ctovey March 26, 11:15AM

My son is a key worker, so his daughter is still going to nursery. However, the nursery have said that if he doesn't have to send her on certain days, they will give a refund for those days.

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by marypink March 26, 11:19AM

Hi CTOVEY,

Thanks for your feedback. Would you mind me asking what nursery is that your niece goes to?

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by ctovey March 26, 11:28AM

Hi
Not sure of the name of the nursery, but its in Wilmington in Kent, so probably not much use to you if you're local and wanting a nursery place at the moment

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by marypink March 26, 03:25PM

Thanks, still relevant feedback.
I heard most of the local nurseries are charging from 0% to 20% fees, so I am keen to hear about it.

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by dbboy March 26, 03:33PM

You could also post in Family Room Discussion for a wider audience

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by tarafitness March 26, 04:06PM

Our nursery is asking for 20%, and kindly accepting more if people are able to pay.

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by EDG March 27, 09:10AM

I suspect we're the same nursery as ours is also 60% fees - I've heard no one else charging 60%. Not too happy about it. No reason given for the difference to others.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was march 27, 09:11am by EDG.

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by Dulwichgirl82 March 27, 09:14AM

I think we are also the same nursery. Seems to be a significant outlier compared to the rest.

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Posted by scarlettbanks March 27, 09:29AM

Mother goose have this, which seems reasonable to me. Must be very hard for nurseries too, and their staff need to be paid. I am still being paid for work, so still paying Mother Goose (even though children staying at home)

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messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by marypink March 27, 09:35AM

Thanks for the feedback.
Our nursery charging 60% is EDG (ex. Le Nid).

Dulwichgirl, EDG, is it the same nursery?

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by Dulwichgirl82 March 27, 09:36AM

Yup!

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by EDG March 27, 09:40AM

Yup

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by picmicnic March 27, 04:35PM

Our nursery has yet to tell us what they expect us to pay. They were waiting to find out what the government and insurers would cover them for.

Given the governments commitment to pay 80% of staff wages - am not sure why the nursery would be asking us to pay any of their fees given they are providing none of the services? Unless I have misunderstood the governments commitment?

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by marypink March 27, 05:27PM

In this link under Funds you'll find the support the nurseries will get:

[www.gov.uk]

It might not get them to cover 100% of the cost, but surely more than 60%, which is what we are being expected to pay.

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by picmicnic March 28, 06:09AM

Just found out our nursery is charging us nothing (first steps)

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by marypink March 29, 10:48AM

Thanks for the feedback picmic!
EDG nursery has comeback saying they can instead charge people 55% instead of 60%, not a big change at all.

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by worldwiser March 30, 07:05PM

Our nursery hasn't yet advised although they say they hope to offer a substantial discount.

Please bear in mind that nurseries operate on a razor thin margin as it is, especially where many attendees qualify for 15 or even 30 hours 'free' childcare. In London the contribution the government makes is under the operating cost. If you want your nursery to still exist in a few months' time, pay them as much as you can afford.

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by JickieC March 31, 07:34AM

Do you want your nursery to be there or not when you go back to work?

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by fishbiscuits March 31, 10:42AM

worldwiser Wrote:
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> Please bear in mind that nurseries operate on a
> razor thin margin as it is, especially where many
> attendees qualify for 15 or even 30 hours 'free'
> childcare.

Yeah but surely many (most?) London nurseries don't really give you those hours of free childcare. My recollection from the nursery days is that they said they simply couldn't give children those free hours, because the govt funding is just nowhere near enough. So they just passed on an equivalent reduction.

But yes, I agree that the margins are thin when you consider the staff-to-child ratio, and assuming you're paying staff at least the London living wage.

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by marypink Yesterday, 01:45PM

Of course I don't want the nursery to close, and not because I would need them when I am back to work.

My point is simple. If the Government is paying for 80% of the employees' salaries, VAT payments are deferred, mortgages can be temporarily paused, can we have more transparency on why differently for most of the nurseries they still need to charge us this much while closed with little or no running costs?

Just to clarify I was more than happy to pay full fees when no help from the Government was made available in order for the staff to be paid and retained.

messageRe: Nursery fees while closed
Posted by worldwiser Yesterday, 05:04PM

First of all 80% is not 100%. Nursery workers don't earn a huge amount to start with and some settings are topping up the government contribution. Rents and mortgages are not being underwritten, just postponed. Capital financing costs continue to accrue and will have to be covered eventually. Some workers are not covered by the furlough scheme - again our nursery is covering that.

Nurseries are required to give you 15 hours but not 30. And they only make the numbers work by the additional paid hours and the wealthy individuals around here who don't qualify for them and have to pay the lot.


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