Jump to content

Rye lane walk & cycle only from 6/7


Recommended Posts

https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/jul/rye-lane-temporary-closure


Rye Lane is being made walking and cycling only from Monday 6 July, with buses diverted and trolleys to help shops with loading. Seeing how busy the footways have been, this seems months overdue, so better late than never for social distancing. The change may last longer than COVID as it will help the works around Peckham Rye station.


This change will increase motor traffic on Bellenden Road and Camberwell Grove however, as happened during the closure for gas works. Camberwell Grove forms part of cycleway 17, the same route Carlton Avenue is on. Clearly the council will need to take urgent measures to filter rat-running through this area too.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

so does this mean getting to the station is going to be more difficult? then they wonder why people don't use public transport!!!


what about the customers of Rye Lane - many of which use buses to get there? I am beginning to think Southwark wants to shut us all down?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The ancient roman system was to disallow wheeled traffic (carts) on the streets during the day, allowing them at night. It would make sense (and facilitate necessary deliveries to shops etc.) if Rye Lane was open to traffic, say, midnight to 4.00am (or even later, 1.00 am to 5.00am.) That way commerce wouldn't be entirely hamstrung.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don?t think it will add to the ?pleasure? of using the Lane. No traffic at all, including buses, will add to the Ponderosa feel the Lane has, especially as you head south past the station. Let?s face it, it is not well loved or well maintained and the absence of familiar things like London buses (which are a public good, not a private luxury) won?t help out. I have seen the hard work of the litter pickers and graffiti removers whose efforts are not repaid by the incessant litter droppers and vandals. (Some of the artwork is really good, like when shutters are painted, and I would love to see more of this.)
Link to comment
Share on other sites

rollflick Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> https://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/2020/jul/rye-lan

> e-temporary-closure

>

> Rye Lane is being made walking and cycling only

> from Monday 6 July, with buses diverted and

> trolleys to help shops with loading. Seeing how

> busy the footways have been, this seems months

> overdue, so better late than never for social

> distancing. The change may last longer than COVID

> as it will help the works around Peckham Rye

> station.

>

> This change will increase motor traffic on

> Bellenden Road and Camberwell Grove however, as

> happened during the closure for gas works.

> Camberwell Grove forms part of cycleway 17, the

> same route Carlton Avenue is on. Clearly the

> council will need to take urgent measures to

> filter rat-running through this area too.


What a terrible decision and one that was made during the Covid situation! Many vulnerable people i.e. people that cannot walk or cycle to local destinations are now finding bus routes etc. suddenly stopped.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have tried to discuss this on the navel gazing Dulwich Safer Streets thread over on the main page. So short sighted to not deal with bus routes. Improving air quality and encouraging walking and cycling but not thinking about public transport is just madness.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Mrs D the buses stop at Nigel Road ( other side to the Tesco Express ) and then divert down Copeland Road which is more or less parallel to Rye Lane .


They do not stop near the station ,you need to walk down from the Nigel Road stop .It's the same route used during the works last year when they dug up the road in Rye Lane .

Link to comment
Share on other sites

went to Peckham today and the cyclists are swerving all over the road instead of riding in a straight line. looks like some are deliberately trying to be a pain.


I.still use the traffic lights to cross otherwise it's like a game of dodge the cyclist.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If roads are being made vehicle free to facilitate social distancing then pedestrians must have priority on the roads. Perhaps cyclists should be forced to dismount and walk through areas like this.



KidKruger Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Yep cyclists are happy to let you know it?s

> ?their? road now, only the pavement bit is for

> pedestrians as far as they are concerned ! Not a

> sense of shared space.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Having seen how some people cycle I would not be surprised if there are some nasty accidents, if we get to a point where lots of people start to cycle. As with all vehicles, there will be speed freaks who enjoy a bit of high risk weaving around people and other cyclists.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

KidKruger Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> there's 'should be' and 'whats actually

> practical'.

> No one is going to police it.



Until someone rings one of these no win no fee lawyers you see on TV all day (could be cyclist or walker or both).


Mind I prefer the lawyer adverts to the ones about "my funeral"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Blah Blah just because you don't observe something others have experienced, doesn't delete their point, nor does it mean hysteria is automatically about to start (although hysteria on EDF is all but guaranteed on most threads!).

I'm sure the other cyclists present when the above observations by walkers were made also thought everything was fine, too.

I've been on Rye Lane before and since - experiencing both fair-shared space and what seem like aggressive 'my patch' cyclists.

It obviously won't be one OR the other for the entirety of every second of every day. You know this already.

But news of a shared space to enable distancing, then experiencing belligerence from others when trying to make use of it to feel safe, will inevitably bother some people when made to feel unsafe.

When it does happen, it's exactly 'jogger mentality'; I've got the momentum, I'm going at speed, it's a pain for me to have to slow down for you, I am taking priority here, just get out of my way, don't use my road, I'm on my way somewhere here while you're only walking, move.

It doesn't mean all cyclists at every time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • you know when you take your pro-cash stance too far? yeah....
    • Easter Bunny Bonus Week 29 fixtures...   Saturday 30th March Newcastle United v West Ham United AFC Bournemouth v Everton Chelsea v Burnley Nottingham Forest v Crystal Palace Sheffield United v Fulham Tottenham Hotspur v Luton Town Aston Villa v Wolverhampton Wanderers Brentford v Manchester United   Sunday 31st March Liverpool v Brighton & Hove Albion Manchester City v Arsenal   Tuesday 2nd April Newcastle United v Everton Nottingham Forest v Fulham AFC Bournemouth v Crystal Palace Burnley v Wolverhampton Wanderers West Ham United v Tottenham Hotspur   Wednesday 3rd April Arsenal v Luton Town Brentford v Brighton & Hove Albion Manchester City v Aston Villa   Thursday 4th April Liverpool v Sheffield United Chelsea v Manchester United
    • A repetitive tried and tested cycle that seems to be slowing down in London thankfully. Brixton was the start. Councils consciously and purposely let an area decline until that area is next on the list for social and ethnic cleansing and ultimately gentrification. In come the first wave of arty/ creatives to squat and house share. A few coffee shops and cool but inexpensive cafe/ bars and art spaces open up. The crackheads, dealers and other assorted criminals who were once left to operate openly and brazenly to sell, shop lift, mug, beg, purchase,  publicly consume on decent folks doorsteps, stairwells,in bin sheds and without fear of the law begin to be targeted, rounded up and moved on. A few more jaunty and sustainable coffee shops/ bars appear . The Guardian and other facilitators in the media jump on the bandwagon, first claims of vibrancy are rolled out. Next step a few cool retro clothing shops pop up selling ' reclaimed Levi's for more than they originally cost and ten times the price of what the recently departed charity shop charged. Foxtons open a branch and the arty types and first wavers/ drivers have there first moan about there initially paltry rents going up. The guardian do a generic lets move to Brixton, Dalston, Hackney, Deptford, Walthamstow type double pager. Interview a graphic designer or two who have just bought a former crack den on the manor for next to peanuts. They will later bemoan the next wave who have more money than them. Cool, edgy and vibrant are now the buzzword bingo must use lingo. Few more coffee shops ( how original ) Pop up everything,. Organic and sour dough move in. The night time economy starts to thrive, more cool bars and eateries open. More squats and the last crack house that was once one of many are cleared out. Second wave is around the corner.   All of a sudden there's a visible police presence again and the streets are safe for fun seekers with plenty of disposable cash to chuck about on a dose of vibrancy with added coolness. By this stage even the locally brewed beer is organic. There's queues outside the newly arrived organic, sourdough, artisan and sustainable bakers. Instagram has Brixton trending. The greasy spoon of thirty year has gone cause the lease is up and the landlord has hiked the rents up by 60/70%. Followed by small family run independents that served the community  for decades and more.  The local characters, activists, eccentrics are getting less and less. There's a new show in town for a week or two and until the next brand arrives. Brewdog move in. Former job centres are converted into bars but peak edginess means it's still called the job centre. Followed by a couple more chain eateries. The resident DJ'S and music venues are replaced by another generic brand boasting guest chefs. The Guardian lifestyle section is now on it's fifth or sixth orgasm. Turn a few pages and hypocrisy is rampant with articles on the evils of gentrification, foxtons, capitalism, social cleansing and unaffordable housing. The middle classes continue to arrive in there droves to buy into the vibrancy and multiculturalism supposedly on offer. There isn't much multiculturalism going on at the packed latest place to eat, drink and fart. The multiculturalism on show comes in the form of bar staff, doorman and cheap as chips uber drivers and delivery workers. Rice and peas, jerk everything, red stripe at six quid a can from some hipster haunt that is currently flavour of the month and the place to be seen. The first wavers are now blaming the latest hedge funded brand that's pulled into town for driving gentrification and there soon to be hastened departure to be first wavers again somewhere else. Less cool but up and coming here we come. Covid has certainly helped/ been a factor in slowing down the process of gentrification. I also think it may be the driver for almost putting a stop to it. Remote working, less need to move to London to be near an office, less disposable cash, sky high rents, worthless degrees that relied on that disposable cash , different priorities, knife and gang crime and a large dose of much needed realism has put a huge spanner in the works for the shitty process and cycle that is/ was the gentrification and social cleansing of working class London. Manchester and Liverpool is next on the list for the planners. Thankfully.
    • Can you just queue up to withdraw cash or are other transactions like stamp purchasing required?  Do M&S do cash back?
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...