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messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by fishbiscuits June 04, 10:10AM

That really is a shame. I know I said at the time that it would be a difficult site... but it took a lot of guts to open there, and they gave it a good go. I would have loved to have been proved wrong.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by Abe_froeman June 04, 10:40AM

I really think they needed a consistent reliable food offering to tempt people to make the journey and spend a longer period of time up there.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by TheArtfulDogger June 04, 11:08AM

Abe, are you saying something like beer and tapas ?

Hmmmmmm I wonder if that could have worked !

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by TheCat June 04, 11:11AM

TheArtfulDogger Wrote:
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> Abe, are you saying something like beer and tapas
> ?
>
> Hmmmmmm I wonder if that could have worked !


The Barcelona Beer Dispensary???

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by Abe_froeman June 04, 12:42PM

Ole!

I did have the same experience as someone else earlier in the thread, twice. popped in passing by, hoping for some lunch and drinks and both times the kitchen was closed, so we didn't stay.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by CaptainPugwash June 04, 10:17PM

Living nearby, I'd high hopes for the place. However, it was an odd space - it didn't feel finished and needed greater investment. Shabby, but not shabby chic, so didn't pull in the local families. Beer selection didn't rival places like the Watson General Telegraph and the completely unpredictable presence of food was a killer. I popped in for a quick lunch and a couple of drinks on a Saturday afternoon, but the kitchen was closed. One pint and a packet of crisps later, I packed up and went home. It's a shame to see the place not succeed, but it just didn't work either.

I'd be all over the Barcelona Beer Dispensary...

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by Penguin68 June 04, 10:45PM

It's fair to say that (Barcelona apart) few establishments have lasted very long on this site. But to be any sort of destination it had to have a consistent offer - which included (considering its location) a consistent food offering. A 'beer only' establishment might have worked on LL (where there are numerous food outlets) - but stuck out there if it couldn't offer food as well (on a regular, consistent and quality basis) it was surely doomed.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by Sue June 05, 10:04AM

This was what they posted last October, so I don't know what happened:

"Just to keep you all in the loop regarding our food offer... From this week we will have the magnificent Stranger Naans guys providing delicious meals every Wednesday, Thursday and Friday from 5pm onwards and on Saturdays from midday 'til late. Sundays, Mondays and Tuesdays from Sunday 14th October we will have local foodsters Taco De Planta serving up their gorgeous Tacos. If you have any questions feel free to drop us a line at DBD@southeybrewing.co.uk.

Much love,

The DBD team x"

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by jimbo1964 June 05, 11:29AM

Sue Wrote:
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> This was what they posted last October, so I don't
> know what happened:
>
> "Just to keep you all in the loop regarding our
> food offer... From this week we will have the
> magnificent Stranger Naans guys providing
> delicious meals every Wednesday, Thursday and
> Friday from 5pm onwards and on Saturdays from
> midday 'til late. Sundays, Mondays and Tuesdays
> from Sunday 14th October we will have local
> foodsters Taco De Planta serving up their gorgeous
> Tacos. If you have any questions feel free to drop
> us a line at DBD@southeybrewing.co.uk.
>
> Much love,
>
> The DBD team x"

Probably not enough people going through the door I imagine.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by Hemingway June 05, 11:37AM

Penguin68 Wrote:
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> It's fair to say that (Barcelona apart) few
> establishments have lasted very long on this site.
> But to be any sort of destination it had to have a
> consistent offer - which included (considering its
> location) a consistent food offering. A 'beer
> only' establishment might have worked on LL (where
> there are numerous food outlets) - but stuck out
> there if it couldn't offer food as well (on a
> regular, consistent and quality basis) it was
> surely doomed.

recentish beer heavy offers haven't even worked on the Lane - place that followed Black Cherry (name escapes me) and to a lesser degree (offer and location) The Flying Pig.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by DulwichFox June 05, 12:58PM

Hemingway Wrote:
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> Penguin68 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's fair to say that (Barcelona apart) few
> > establishments have lasted very long on this
> site.
> > But to be any sort of destination it had to have
> a
> > consistent offer - which included (considering
> its
> > location) a consistent food offering. A 'beer
> > only' establishment might have worked on LL
> (where
> > there are numerous food outlets) - but stuck
> out
> > there if it couldn't offer food as well (on a
> > regular, consistent and quality basis) it was
> > surely doomed.
>
> recentish beer heavy offers haven't even worked on
> the Lane - place that followed Black Cherry (name
> escapes me
) and to a lesser degree (offer and
> location) The Flying Pig.

Was it The Draft House.. ???

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by Sue June 05, 01:06PM

Yes! Didn't last long.

Then Franco Manca completely remodelled the space, which took ages.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was june 05, 01:07pm by Sue.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by Sephiroth June 05, 02:00PM

I think it was the space that did for both of those places

Franco Manca didn't send ages taking out that hump in the middle for no good reason - it was a major barrier to trade in both Black Cherry and Draft House incarnations

I think the ToastED space would really fly as a beer joint

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by Sephiroth June 05, 02:27PM

I suppose in the interests of fairness, I should point out before LouTwo does that beer is in fact already sold in multiple bars already in existence on the lane, it isn't very healthy and isn't particularly cheap

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by Help-Ma-Boab June 05, 03:30PM

Big windows in ToastED / Terriors.

Good to be seen sipping a beer in.

Sephiroth Wrote:
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> I suppose in the interests of fairness, I should
> point out before LouTwo does that beer is in fact
> already sold in multiple bars already in existence
> on the lane, it isn't very healthy and isn't
> particularly cheap

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by Sephiroth June 05, 03:37PM

Good shout HMB

as you are here - I wonder how much better Inside 72 would have done if it launched in the new beer world of the twenty teens instead of the early noughties...?

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by Sue June 05, 04:55PM

Sephiroth Wrote:
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> I suppose in the interests of fairness, I should
> point out before LouTwo does that beer is in fact
> already sold in multiple bars already in existence
> on the lane, it isn't very healthy and isn't
> particularly cheap


big grin big grinbig grin

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by Help-Ma-Boab June 05, 04:57PM

Think it was very much of its time. For me anyhow.



Sephiroth Wrote:
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> Good shout HMB
>
> as you are here - I wonder how much better Inside
> 72 would have done if it launched in the new beer
> world of the twenty teens instead of the early
> noughties...?

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by zerkalo June 05, 09:30PM

That's a shame to hear that the Dulwich Beer Dispensary has closed down. Like some other people here, I wasn't never a regular only making a monthly visit or so since it opened. But it never felt like the ambience was quite right to enjoy more than a couple of pints there. For me personally, it was the prospect of good beer on offer locally that was particularly appealing, so I wasn't ever really put off by the lack of food available. I do however remember seeing a kiosk selling naans just outside for most of winter. Maybe this didn't quite catch on?

Ultimately, it proved to be a difficult location for the business to survive. I hope the London Beer Dispensary in Brockley and the Southey tap room in Penge are doing better!

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by fishbiscuits June 06, 09:49AM

A craft beer specialist bar could definitely work in ED. In fact this must be one of the few affluent London boroughs that doesn't have one, despite several failed attempts. Just having good beer isn't enough though, it needs to have the right atmosphere, decent food, accessible location, and prices have to be in the sweet spot.

Brick Brewery in Peckham is working really well, now they've moved the actual brewery off-site, and it's just operating as a bar. The food is just right, too. The jury's out on the new Brew By Numbers bar up on Bellenden Rd though. It's nice having a simple tap room to taste some nice beers, but it's a bit too austere to make me want to stay for long. Perhaps they will evolve.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by stepdown June 06, 12:44PM

fishbiscuits Wrote:
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> Brick Brewery in Peckham is working really well,
> now they've moved the actual brewery off-site, and
> it's just operating as a bar. The food is just
> right, too.

I'm still mourning the loss of Slow Richie's burgers.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by zerkalo June 06, 02:29PM

fishbiscuits Wrote:
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> A craft beer specialist bar could definitely work
> in ED. In fact this must be one of the few
> affluent London boroughs that doesn't have one,
> despite several failed attempts. Just having good
> beer isn't enough though, it needs to have the
> right atmosphere, decent food, accessible
> location, and prices have to be in the sweet
> spot.

Although not really a bar or a taproom, I think Hops, Burn & Black on East Dulwich Road cover a lot of the craft beer demand in ED. But it would be nice to have a specialist bar/pub in the area. I still go to Camberwell regularly to drink the beers I like.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by Applespider June 07, 08:12AM

Agreed on Brick although I too am mourning the burgers. The hog roast isnít the same. BBNo does feel a less welcoming space.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by fishbiscuits June 07, 10:42AM

Applespider Wrote:
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> Agreed on Brick although I too am mourning the
> burgers. The hog roast isnít the same.

Yeah the burgers were good. Although I recently tried the hog roast bap (with black pudding and hot sauce), and I enjoyed it... so I'm OK with the offering still. The cynic in me thinks that they've gone hog roast because it's easier to do in bulk, rather than cooking burgers to order, but I like the fact that they're trying something new. I guess time will tell whether it works out.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by fishbiscuits June 07, 10:44AM

zerkalo Wrote:
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> Although not really a bar or a taproom, I think
> Hops, Burn & Black on East Dulwich Road cover a
> lot of the craft beer demand in ED.

I rarely buy "takeaway" beer there, because I'm afraid it stretches the wallet rather. But sitting outside on the bench on a warm evening with a couple of fancy beers is an interesting alternative.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by Sue June 07, 11:14AM

Really nice people in HBB, too.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by jwinters June 07, 03:19PM

A shame but hardly surprising, I imagine it's tough trying to get anything going on that strip of shop front between there and tile giant. That area seems like a bit of a no-mans land between East Dulwich and Forest hill. Never looked super full when I went past on the bus.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by jimbo1964 June 07, 08:28PM

Charlie Bravo Wrote:
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> I'm an ex publican, and chef, I spoke with the
> owners and told them they needed good food, I even
> offered to come in on a Sunday and do a Sunday
> lunch offer for them to help boost trade, it
> seemed to have either fallen on deaf ears or
> completely ignored either way that site is crying
> out for good honest reasonably priced food and I
> don't mean £16 burgers.
>
>
> Most people who fancy a bite to eat and a good
> pint don't want to pay upward of £17 for Sunday
> roast when they can do it at home what they want
> is a decent fill for about a tenner or tops twelve
> quid and it does exist Mrs and Mrs East Dulwich
> may have a couple of Children so factor them in
> and you're looking at £100 for Sunday lunch that's
> most peoples normal shopping bill for a week. Make
> your food reasonable and they'll have a couple of
> extra beers make it £20 for a main in a pub of all
> places and people will just not bother.
>
> Rant over

Completely agree. Anything for a tenner is good. For three of us I don't want a £75 lunch bill.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by Humdinger June 10, 09:16AM

I wish publicans all followed your lead. I never have a roast in a pub in London, as it is at least £15 normally, and quite often is lukewarm, as much of the food is already cooked and sat around until someone puts an order in.

A decent meal for a tenner and you've got my custom, along with a couple of pints (providing they arent silly prices too).

Best value i have seen in ED seems to be bangers and mash in the EDT for £8. Never tried it mind.

messageRe: Dulwich Beer Dispensary
Posted by jimbo1964 June 10, 09:53AM

The Ivy House gets the balance right i think. Good beer and quality Sunday roasts at keen prices.

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