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messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by alex_b January 14, 09:36PM

We have occasional spaates of it on Adys, where I wind up parking on nearby streets or down by the park, but by and large itís ok. Could it be that as the houses are slightly narrower there are more houses per metre of road? Or perhaps more houses split into flats? It is odd that Nutbrook is so much worse than other streets.

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by trinidad January 14, 10:40PM

this is a message for residents living on copleston rod - what do u think of these proposals for long road?

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messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by kjet2 January 15, 07:58AM

A group of residents of Gowlett Road and Amott Road met last night at the Gowlett Arms. The consensus was that the introduction of a CPZ on these roads would have limited impact on the availability of parking spaces for residents as the most significant pressures affecting parking spaces are not during "working" hours but in the evenings, when the CPZ would not apply.

Yes, a couple of residents were concerned by commuters leaving their cars and then catching the train from Peckham Rye or East Dulwich, but there is very little evidence that this adversely affects availability of spaces to any great degree; again space is harder to find in the evenings.

Others mentioned the introduction of the double yellow lines alongside dropped curbs. These have effectively removed some 6-8 parking spaces along Gowlett Road alone. There is a clear recognition of the need to enhance the protection of pedestrians and other road users, but reducing available space with additional (paying) cycle hangars, so called parklets etc will only compound the problem, forcing residents of the street to park in adjoining streets. Add to this the proposed new paid parking area the entire length of one side of Gowlett Road from East Dulwich Road to Hinckley Road and one can only imagine the mess this will cause.

Linked to the last point, someone brought up about the issue of the so called "death of the high street"; the Council is proposing to charge business users some £575+, where's the logic in that? Things are already tough enough without 1. the additional charges and 2. the potential reduction in trade from users put off by the parking charges. Many of us remember the short period when the Gowlett Arms was closed and the loss felt at the time, I fear a return to that period, but this time with a permanent loss.

Others in this thread have noted that clear line of sight facilitates speeding, which contradicts the Council's stated aim of this exercise as one to promote healthy and safer streets.

The issue clearly is if a few streets in the so called Peckham West area give into this, neighbouring streets will bear the brunt of relocated cars. Let's hope common sense prevails.

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by rahrahrah January 15, 09:04AM

I wish the council put half the effort they have into pursuing CPZs over the years, into lobbying for better public transport.

It seems everything is being pinned on cycling, which, while an option for many, does not something that appeals to all. If it was a case of using a bike to make a short trip to the tube, that's one thing. But not everyone want to, or is capable of, cycling into the centre of town. Just making it easier to cycle to Brixton (our nearest tube) and safely leave a bike there (by replicating what they have done in terms of secure bike parking at Finsbury Park), would be a massive boon. Why, when the Santander bikes expanded in every direction, Did Southwark decide not to fund them coming to the SE? Why is there no Cycle superhighway in SE London?

If you look at almost any transport map of London (tube map, cycle superhighway map, hire bikes), SE appears as a blank space. The only exception is long distance, suburban rail lines, which are run according to the needs of those commuting in from outside the capital. The train services are not bad to be fair. But there should be other, more regular and convenient alternatives and the Council should be lobbying on our behalf.

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by rahrahrah January 15, 09:06AM

All the activity on making car ownership mildly more inconvenient or expensive, whilst doing little to offer alternatives, feels a lot like displacement activity.

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by alex_b January 15, 10:04AM

Kjet2 - I completely agree with your points. The council are proposing the wrong answer to the wrong question. What the streets in "West Peckham" need is a reduction in rat running, especially by large commercial vehicles. Unfortunately our local councillors seem to have absolutely no interest in the views of local residents.

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by Eileen January 15, 08:26PM

kjet2 Wrote:
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> A group of residents of Gowlett Road and Amott
> Road met last night at the Gowlett Arms. The
> consensus was that the introduction of a CPZ on
> these roads would have limited impact on the
> availability of parking spaces for residents as
> the most significant pressures affecting parking
> spaces are not during "working" hours but in the
> evenings, when the CPZ would not apply.
>
Hi - thanks for this info. The CPZ side effects of difficulties for visitors' parking is compounded if the CPZ doesn't make it easier to park in the evenings. I live in Nutbrook just a street away from yours. It is in the evenings we have as many problems, sometimes more, as during the day. Have you any ideas why we have so many cars parking in the evenings around our part of the area?

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by kjet2 January 15, 09:35PM

Hello Eileen,this is hardly scientific, but we had people last night who need their cars to commute to their places of work; generally outside London - this included teachers who would otherwise need to travel by public transport for up to 2.5 hours for a distance of 14 miles; thereby freeing space during the day. Otherwise, I would urge people thinking of supporting this measure (and we had people last night asking whether objections are simply related to a question of moneyExclaimation or those that wanted to just be able to park in front of their homes), to think of those who need to commute into the area as well; teachers at Bellenden or St Johns or the various children's nurseries in the area who would be impacted severely by the introduction of a CPZ. Yes, it's all too easy to say people should just travel by public transport and forego cars etc, and I realise that this statement may well stir a hornet's nest here, but we need to just get real here and put ourselves in others' shoes. Sometimes getting to work by car as opposed to using public transport is just what one has to do to be able to commute with a reasonable chance of balancing work/time/family and life.

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by ech January 16, 01:00PM

alex_b Wrote:
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> We have occasional spaates of it on Adys, where I
> wind up parking on nearby streets or down by the
> park, but by and large itís ok. Could it be that
> as the houses are slightly narrower there are more
> houses per metre of road? Or perhaps more houses
> split into flats? It is odd that Nutbrook is so
> much worse than other streets.

We must be on opposite ends of the street!!

It's terrible down at the Oglander Road end. We have lived here for nearly 11years and it's got progressively worse - the first issue was the council making the end of Crystal Palace Road no right turn around 4 years ago forcing all the traffic and HGVs straight on down into the Adys Road area where the streets are too small to cope (note the constant knocking over of the bollards!) Then the introduction of the CPZ's at Lyndhurst Grove meant a further increase in commuters parking (i've followed lots of them to the station in the morning and we can park more easily at weekends before people say this isn't a cause) and of course more recently the Denmark Hill CPZ.

Apart from the challenge parking (i don't expect to park outside but reasonably nearby would be great) means there are no passing spaces for cars. This end of Adys Road the street isn't wide enough for 2 cars to pass so almost every night there are road rage incidents, damage to vehicles, car horns blaring at each other. It's horrific to live with. Seeing how pleasant it now is around the Lyndhurst Grove area and how easy it is to park since the CPZ was brought in i am now hugely in favour.

Being the only area left without one is crazy and it's obvious all the issues previously faced by other areas will now be displaced here if it doesn't go ahead!

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by rahrahrah January 16, 02:29PM

chuck it over the fence.

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by trinidad January 16, 09:09PM

Copleston Road can be difficult sometimes to park, but I usually find somewhere to put the car. I often do see the commuters in the morning, park up and head to the station like bees. I am not in support of the introduction of a Controlled Parking Zone. I am sure the introduction of a zone would follow aggressive parking enforcement, deliveries not taking place, people not visting any more, and commuters simply parking further afield. My experiences simply does not warrent a CPZ, does anyone else feels this way? While I like the commitment of cleaner neighborhoods, I cant stop thinking, this has to be a way of generating income. Drivers already pay a premium in high insurance premiums (fueled by ecess personal claims), increasing petrol prices, Increase car duty, congestion zone, omissions zone in a few months, and now a charge to park not out side your home, not even on your road, but within the zone!!

Has anyone submitted their feedback to the council as yet?

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messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by TTW January 16, 09:24PM

We have just had the new CPZ implemented on Chadwick Rd (11-1pm only). During the heated CPZ consultation process, lots of people tried to claim that stories about commuters parking on the road to walk to Peckham Rye were a myth, despite clear evidence to the contrary. Since the new CPZ has come in, the number of cars parked on the street has reduced by 50% or more (probably pushed to your roads - sorry) and we can actually park near our house (helpful with two small children). There is also noticeably less traffic and noise on the street.

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by alex_b January 17, 08:55AM

ech Wrote:
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> alex_b Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We have occasional spaates of it on Adys, where
> I
> > wind up parking on nearby streets or down by
> the
> > park, but by and large itís ok. Could it be
> that
> > as the houses are slightly narrower there are
> more
> > houses per metre of road? Or perhaps more
> houses
> > split into flats? It is odd that Nutbrook is so
> > much worse than other streets.
>
> We must be on opposite ends of the street!!
>
> It's terrible down at the Oglander Road end. We
> have lived here for nearly 11years and it's got
> progressively worse - the first issue was the
> council making the end of Crystal Palace Road no
> right turn around 4 years ago forcing all the
> traffic and HGVs straight on down into the Adys
> Road area where the streets are too small to cope
> (note the constant knocking over of the bollards!)
> Then the introduction of the CPZ's at Lyndhurst
> Grove meant a further increase in commuters
> parking (i've followed lots of them to the station
> in the morning and we can park more easily at
> weekends before people say this isn't a cause) and
> of course more recently the Denmark Hill CPZ.
>
> Apart from the challenge parking (i don't expect
> to park outside but reasonably nearby would be
> great) means there are no passing spaces for cars.
> This end of Adys Road the street isn't wide enough
> for 2 cars to pass so almost every night there are
> road rage incidents, damage to vehicles, car horns
> blaring at each other. It's horrific to live with.
> Seeing how pleasant it now is around the Lyndhurst
> Grove area and how easy it is to park since the
> CPZ was brought in i am now hugely in favour.
>
> Being the only area left without one is crazy and
> it's obvious all the issues previously faced by
> other areas will now be displaced here if it
> doesn't go ahead!

I'm in the middle of the road and while it's not empty, I can usually park either outside the house or on the other side of the road (except when everyone leaves 3/4s of a space between cars). I don't think any of my immediate neighbours own cars and only a couple of the houses/flats opposite do.

You are absolutely right about the HGV traffic, road rage and general traffic volume. That's what I really want the council to tackle, but I see the CPZ introduction making that worse (due to the double yellows allowing coaches/HGVs to turn from Nutbrook, increased speeds due to more space) not better.

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by ech January 17, 12:55PM

TTW Wrote:
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> We have just had the new CPZ implemented on
> Chadwick Rd (11-1pm only). During the heated CPZ
> consultation process, lots of people tried to
> claim that stories about commuters parking on the
> road to walk to Peckham Rye were a myth, despite
> clear evidence to the contrary. Since the new CPZ
> has come in, the number of cars parked on the
> street has reduced by 50% or more (probably pushed
> to your roads - sorry) and we can actually park
> near our house (helpful with two small children).
> There is also noticeably less traffic and noise on
> the street.

This is what I have seen in the Lyndhurst Road area and had as feedback from other friends who live in the CPZs which is why i am in favour and do feel it will address some of the broader issues in relation to traffic volume and road rage on Adys Road.

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by alex_b January 17, 02:22PM

ech Wrote:
> This is what I have seen in the Lyndhurst Road
> area and had as feedback from other friends who
> live in the CPZs which is why i am in favour and
> do feel it will address some of the broader issues
> in relation to traffic volume and road rage on
> Adys Road.


I'm not sure I follow the logic. My (unscientific) observation is that most traffic down Adys is through traffic (often commercial/goods); presumably as a cut through from Peckham High St (and North) down to the A205. I don't see why parking restrictions will reduce that traffic volume. I accept it may improve traffic flow and hence reduce road rage, but at the cost of increased speed.

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by trinidad January 19, 05:41PM

This is a reminder, that the consultation is 31st January. I have already completed my survey. Please make sure you complete yours:



There is a drop in session on Wednesday 23rd January between 4:00pm - 8:00pm (one session only) if your undecided, and want more information:

Come along to the drop in session at St John's Church, 62A East Dulwich Road
London SE22 9AT
This is an opportunity to ask questions specific to your street and to provide feedback on the design.
Please remember however to fill in the questionnaire online or via post to have your say.



If your a business, there is a Consultation meeting for business-owners/traders on Tuesday 22nd January 2019
2:00pm to 3:30pm (one session only)
Attend the meeting at Goose Green Community Centre, 62A East Dulwich Road London SE22 9AT.

The meeting will be chaired. The Southwark Council will briefly present the proposals before taking questions.
Please remember to fill in the questionnaire online or via post to have your say.You can also send advance questions ahead of time to, highways@southwark.gov.uk

Everyone must express there view on these proposals, even if you do not own a vehicle.

[consultations.southwark.gov.uk]

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messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by alex_b January 19, 08:28PM

trinidad Wrote:
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> This is a reminder, that the consultation has now
> been extended until 7th February, due to late
> delivery of hard copies via the post.

Are you sure about this? I only saw the the East Dulwich and not the West Peckham consultation had been extended.

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by Eileen January 19, 11:25PM

trinidad Wrote:
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> This is a reminder, that the consultation has now
> been extended until 7th February, due to late
> delivery of hard copies via the post. I have
> already completed my survey. Please make sure you
> complete yours:
>
The Council's website still says this consultation is closing on the original date of 31st January - [consultations.southwark.gov.uk]

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by trinidad January 19, 11:43PM

Thanks for spoting this, I have changed this to the 31st Jan

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messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by ech January 20, 04:52PM

alex_b Wrote:
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>
> I'm not sure I follow the logic. My (unscientific)
> observation is that most traffic down Adys is
> through traffic (often commercial/goods);
> presumably as a cut through from Peckham High St
> (and North) down to the A205. I don't see why
> parking restrictions will reduce that traffic
> volume. I accept it may improve traffic flow and
> hence reduce road rage, but at the cost of
> increased speed.

See comments from others about the CPZ reducing traffic and the roads generally being quieter after implementation. I agree it won't stop it being used as a cut through by commercial vehicles but it should stop the additional commuter traffic at the rush hours driving round looking for parking - even a reduction in this traffic will help. The road rage is unbearable so i'd vote for the CPZ just to reduce that.
As for speeding, the volume of traffic makes this unrealistic and at the bottom end we have 2 consecutive high and hard speed bumps (we get the noise and vibrations every time someone drives over them) to slow traffic right down as a result of someone going straight through the front of one of the houses on Oglander some years ago. Can;t see how people will be able to drive faster as a result of improved parking and more passing spaces given the volume of traffic and the anti speeding measures already in place.

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by Soylent Green January 20, 10:31PM

Since the introduction of the DKH CPZ parking has become a real issue at the Grove Vale end of Oglander and Copleston. Whilst I would have preferred no CPZ anywhere in the area, once it starts the problems increase as adjacent roads fill up with displaced commuters (and people who rarely use their cars and so are happy to park them several streets away in non-CPZ spaces). I find parking near my home very stressful as I often have to drive around the block a couple of times to find somewhere, and I fear that if the Lordship Lane CPZ comes in, the West Peckham area will become even less tolerable. What is more, if the closest streets to you are in a CPZ which you are not part of, you are really stuck, which I fear will happen here. Unlike some who say the parking issue is evenings, our street empties out between 6pm and 7pm and is full of spaces at the weekend, so this is a commuter problem. And I don't mind helping out a cash-strapped council which has been unable to increase council tax to fund essential services gaining a few extra pounds in the coffers through CPZs.

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by Eileen January 20, 10:39PM

Soylent Green Wrote:
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> Since the introduction of the DKH CPZ parking has
> become a real issue at the Grove Vale end of
> Oglander and Copleston. Whilst I would have
> preferred no CPZ anywhere in the area, once it
> starts the problems increase as adjacent roads
> fill up with displaced commuters (and people who
> rarely use their cars and so are happy to park
> them several streets away in non-CPZ spaces). I
> find parking near my home very stressful as I
> often have to drive around the block a couple of
> times to find somewhere, and I fear that if the
> Lordship Lane CPZ comes in, the West Peckham area
> will become even less tolerable. What is more, if
> the closest streets to you are in a CPZ which you
> are not part of, you are really stuck, which I
> fear will happen here. Unlike some who say the
> parking issue is evenings, our street empties out
> between 6pm and 7pm and is full of spaces at the
> weekend, so this is a commuter problem. And I
> don't mind helping out a cash-strapped council
> which has been unable to increase council tax to
> fund essential services gaining a few extra pounds
> in the coffers through CPZs.

Hi Soylent Green - I live in Nutbrook St which has the street filled with cars day and evenings and night. There is a slight easing on Sats/Suns but not much. It seems (from driving round looking for a parking place) the same in the streets closest to here which are Waghorn and Maxted. I have heard through posts on this forum that Amott and Gowlett are similarly afflicted. Can you say which street you are so we can see if that throws light on the distribution of these parking issues?

messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by James Barber January 21, 09:26AM

Hi Soylent Green,
Southwark Council can and has increased Council Tax.
FY 18/19 up by 4.99% for example and also 4.99% in FY17/18, 2% FY16/17, o% from FY06/07 Under Lib Dems to FY15/16 under Labour.
Equally anyone can pay more than their Council Tax or donate to local causes which have seen a reduction in income. Potentially more tax efficient if a charity than paying via Southwark Council.

Parking
Any CPZ tends to see non resident vehicles parked up for days, weeks, months removed. On some roads this can make a material difference.

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messageRe: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by Eileen January 24, 01:19AM

Did anyone go to the drop-in at Goose Green this evening about the proposed CPZ in 'Peckham West' (otherwise known to many as 'Bellenden')? It would be good to hear what issues and info came up at the drop-in.

One matter at the time I was there (near the end) was that everyone there wanted to have the deadline for comments extended to the same date as the extended deadline for the East Dulwich consultation (date to be publicised but towards end February). This was because some were just finding out about it and needed time to contact their neighbours and have conversations and discussions to swap info and ideas.

Does anyone share that view? If so it would be good to email that in to the councillors with ward and policy responsibilities:
Car Parking Cabinet member - richard.livingstone@southwark.gov.uk,
Rye Lane ward - Jasmine.Ali@southwark.gov.uk, nick.dolezal@southwark.gov.uk, Peter.Babudu@southwark.gov.uk,
Dulwich Community Council- andy.simmons@southwark.gov.uk
Goose Green ward - james.mcash@southwark.gov.uk, victoria.olisa@southwark.gov.uk, charlie.smith@southwark.gov.uk

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messageRe: CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by Abe_froeman February 04, 11:47AM

I would suggest that if you don't want a CPZ in East Dulwich you should object to one in West Peckham too! The consultation closes on Thursday.

messageRe: CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by Eileen February 04, 11:48AM

The deadline for comments on this CPZ in the Bellenden area (called by the Council for this consultation ĎWest Peckhamí) is this week Thursday 7th February. [consultations.southwark.gov.uk] Itís important to get your views in on the principle and the details.

Some issues which have been coming up:
* Should there be a CPZ at all here in the Bellenden area?
* If so, just for a couple of hours to prevent all day parking?
* Allocation of paid and permit bays Ė look at the maps for your streets.
* Will a CPZ free up parking in the evenings for the streets that are full then?
* What will be effect on parking for your visitors?
* What will be the effect on the shops and cafes on East Dulwich Road between Gowlett Rd and Goose Green of more than half reduction in parking spaces on both north and south sides of the road?

Thanks admin for unblocking this thread.

messageRe: CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by micromacromonkey February 04, 12:18PM

I am glad this thread has been reopened since yesterday/today have demonstrated the stark differences that have arisen between weekends and weekdays on Copleston/Danby/Avondale sinch th eDog Kennel Hill zone came in. Parking dead easy yesterday (apart from just around lunchtime with both churches full so that's to be expected). Today I had a terminal bike failure on the way to work so my wife came to pick me up in the car, 10 mins later she went round the avondale/copleston/danby block 3 times until she could find a spot.

This is clearly either commuters, or DKH CPZ residents who don't wish to pay for their own zone. Either way it is a bit silly. It's not the lack of parking per se (We cycle every day and could prob manage without the car really) but rather the fact that non-residents are using the facilities (and importing the pollution) whereas we cannot.

My wife and I have both filled inthe consultation and said that unfortunately we will have to say Yes to the CPZ to address the above issues.

In addition we have both said No to the 'parklets'. I work in Hammersmith where they have some setup in a business/high street area and they get so little use even in that context that I can't see that they will offer anything in our area.

messageRe: CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by Eileen February 04, 12:43PM

Hi micromacromonkey

Thanks for contributing. A problem is that the situation varies between streets. I am in Nutbrook several streets from yours and we aren't affected by commuter parking from the East Dulwich or DKH areas. We do have our issues but I don't think they are commuter parking, especially as it is often as bad throughout the evening and overnight.

Did you go for the two hour slot CPZ? i am wondering if that is the best solution as it reduces I assume the problem for visitors of all sorts especially care giving visitors. And streets without commuter parking issues don't lose the free parking at other times. If we do have it imposed on us in my street it will be interesting to see if affects the evening and night parking. I'd really like to have your views on the timing of the CPZ in the Bellenden area.

micromacromonkey Wrote:
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> I am glad this thread has been reopened since
> yesterday/today have demonstrated the stark
> differences that have arisen between weekends and
> weekdays on Copleston/Danby/Avondale sinch th eDog
> Kennel Hill zone came in. Parking dead easy
> yesterday (apart from just around lunchtime with
> both churches full so that's to be expected).
> Today I had a terminal bike failure on the way to
> work so my wife came to pick me up in the car, 10
> mins later she went round the
> avondale/copleston/danby block 3 times until she
> could find a spot.
>
> This is clearly either commuters, or DKH CPZ
> residents who don't wish to pay for their own
> zone. Either way it is a bit silly. It's not the
> lack of parking per se (We cycle every day and
> could prob manage without the car really) but
> rather the fact that non-residents are using the
> facilities (and importing the pollution) whereas
> we cannot.
>
> My wife and I have both filled inthe consultation
> and said that unfortunately we will have to say
> Yes to the CPZ to address the above issues.
>
> In addition we have both said No to the
> 'parklets'. I work in Hammersmith where they have
> some setup in a business/high street area and they
> get so little use even in that context that I
> can't see that they will offer anything in our
> area.

messageRe: CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking 'West Peckham' (north East Dulwich?
Posted by micromacromonkey February 04, 01:20PM

Hi Eileen, yes I put the 2 hour option. I think that is the option that minimises all the bad things about the CPZ.

We moved from Amott about 6 month ago, rarely had trouble parking there. We were there for 8 years and it did get worse over that time though, but it was rarely more than just a short walk up amott or gowlett; never any further.

I think you will find that if your street was not included in the CPZ and most others were then you would have so much displacement that you'd never be able to park. As previously stated I don't like the idea of it in general, and if you'd asked me before the implementation of zone Q (DKH) I would have said no to our own one. However even if we somehow got Copleston added to zone Q, then the next street along would want adding, then the one next to that etc due to displacement.



Eileen Wrote:
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> Hi micromacromonkey
>
> Thanks for contributing. A problem is that the
> situation varies between streets. I am in Nutbrook
> several streets from yours and we aren't affected
> by commuter parking from the East Dulwich or DKH
> areas. We do have our issues but I don't think
> they are commuter parking, especially as it is
> often as bad throughout the evening and
> overnight.
>
> Did you go for the two hour slot CPZ? i am
> wondering if that is the best solution as it
> reduces I assume the problem for visitors of all
> sorts especially care giving visitors. And streets
> without commuter parking issues don't lose the
> free parking at other times. If we do have it
> imposed on us in my street it will be interesting
> to see if affects the evening and night parking.
> I'd really like to have your views on the timing
> of the CPZ in the Bellenden area.

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