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messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by edcam May 02, 11:55AM

It does when you've already paid for it.

tomskip Wrote:
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> £30.00 p/a. £1.15 every two weeks to have a brown
> wheelie bin full of garden waste taken away.
> Doesn't seem bad value to me.

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by edcam May 02, 12:00PM

They said in their last letter that they'd be writing again to explain how to pay. I wonder what these two massive bailouts are costing us on top of the £30 we have to pay.

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> I no longer have a car so cannot take my garden
> waste to the Devon Street Depot.
> Ironic that in an attempt to clean up the air I
> am faced with this dilemma.
>
> My garden is tiny. Much of it paved and partially
> decked.
> I have a Strip of soil down each side which needs
> to be tidied up from time to time.
>
> Enough to fill my Brown Bin 2 - 3 times a year.
> But it has to be done. It needs doing now,
>
> How do I actually pay the £30.00 and get to keep
> my Brown Bin and get it emptied, ??
>
> DulwichFox

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by Siduhe May 02, 01:17PM

It's going to be online - suspect the button isn't full active yet but you can see it here and leave your details:

[www.southwark.gov.uk]

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by snoopy17 May 02, 02:35PM

I can't pay online" how do I pay on cash?

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by brewski May 03, 12:31PM

WE had a leaflet from Southwark saying they will charge £30pa for collection. I think this is reasonable. However it seems that people are not putting using this bin for their food waste bags, or they would be used more. I encourage everyone to use the facility of Food Waste collection as this is a wonderful way to reduce waste and you can buy back the compose created from the Tip in Old Kent Road. We are very lucky that Southwark provides this service and I dont mind at all paying a bit extra a year for it.

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by DulwichFox May 10, 03:26PM

went to Dulwich Library this morning to see if they had any Garden Waste bags.
They did not have any and they will not be getting any more in. Bags will no longer be available.

I was told you have to pay £30.00 and you have to apply online. However the site has gone down.

Southwark Council will be organising a P' up in a brewery

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by Penguin68 May 10, 04:00PM

I managed to get in, register and pay my £25 - I've got a confirmatory e-mail and I've seen the charge on my CC bill - but I've certainly been sent no stickers etc. Does anyone know when/ if they will actually fulfil their order? Clearly they have 3 weeks to go before they stop collecting garden waste except from those who have paid, but it would be nice to think they would be efficient highwaymen/ persons.

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by Siduhe May 10, 04:10PM

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> I was told you have to pay £30.00 and you have to
> apply online. However the site has gone down.
>

Foxy, I can save you the trouble as I tried to get bags last week as well - we will need to order them through the Southwark site (which is working for me) but this facility is not available yet and "may" be ready by 1 June - I was advised to keep checking back on the site.

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by DulwichFox May 10, 04:25PM

Penguin68 Wrote:
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> I managed to get in, register and pay my £25 -
> I've got a confirmatory e-mail and I've seen the
> charge on my CC bill - but I've certainly been
sent no stickers etc. Does anyone know when/ if
> they will actually fulfil their order? Clearly
> they have 3 weeks to go before they stop
> collecting garden waste except from those who have
> paid, but it would be nice to think they would be
> efficient highwaymen/ persons.


£25.00 I thought is was going to be £30.00
Stickers ?? If you put stickers on your bin, What if someone steals your stickers and put them on their bin.

I thought the large garden waste bins would be removed and replaced with small brown bins
If people pay to retain their large brown bins I can see them going missing.

How the hell is this going to work ??

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by TheArtfulDogger May 10, 04:47PM

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> Penguin68 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> How the hell is this going to work ??


Badly?

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by gumshoe May 10, 04:52PM

Penguin68 Wrote:
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> I managed to get in, register and pay my £25 -
> I've got a confirmatory e-mail and I've seen the
> charge on my CC bill - but I've certainly been
> sent no stickers etc. Does anyone know when/ if
> they will actually fulfil their order? Clearly
> they have 3 weeks to go before they stop
> collecting garden waste except from those who have
> paid, but it would be nice to think they would be
> efficient highwaymen/ persons.


We were told that they would arrive on June 1st - which seems to be an issue given that is also when the scheme starts. Oh dear!

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by yeknomyeknom May 10, 05:18PM

I hope the council has planned an environmentally friendly way to reuse the brown bins of the properties that no longer want them.

If you are not keeping your bin, or even if you are, Southwark have subsidised composters via this site so you ca own one for only £10. A great way to get rid of food waste and lots of type of plant waste and grass cuttings etc. See here:

[getcomposting.com]

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by Penguin68 May 10, 05:28PM

The scheme is £30 for a full year, £25 for the initial part year. They said that retained large brown bins would have a sticker to identify them as for legitimate garden waste (but no further paper bags would be collected with the brown bins). And yes, it probably will be a complete mess.



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messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by ed_pete May 10, 06:09PM

Stopping the brown bag collection is stupid. I only have a small garden and cannot justify the space/usage for brown bin and use maybe a dozen or so bags a year. Now I will either have to borrow space in a neighbours bin or take them to Devon Street. Madness. (BTW I already have a compost bin).

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by Penguin68 May 10, 06:14PM

Stopping the brown bag collection is stupid.

I believe (yes, I know, it's madness) that the brown bag collection has only been stopped for those paying for brown bin collection. But instead of issuing bags free they will now be charged for, so that those without the need for brown bins, in the main, will pay for their brown bags to be collected via that charge. Why they won't take additional brown bags (which will also have been paid for) from brown bin people, god only knows. But then, I gather this simply from what's been communicated, which doesn't mean it's right (see also my thread on trusting Tooley St.) The Veolia folks 'on the ground' (who actually have to do this) are confused as well.

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by DulwichFox May 10, 06:20PM

Just signed up for the scheme. £25.00 for 1 subscription.
Did not understand why there was a choice of 1-2-3-4 subs.

But says it will be £25.00 per year. paid by Debit Card

Foxy

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Posted by sally buying May 10, 06:24PM

I am sure this has been asked before, why has the garden waste and food waste now been separated into 2 items requiring collection, 3 if you include brown bags.

Surely they all end up in the same compost heap just like a compost heap in ones garden.

Apart from screwing money from residents did the old system not work?

How many vehicles will be used by Southwark to collect all this?

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by Rockets May 10, 07:56PM

Interesting as well that you have to order (free) a new smaller brown bin for your food waste as you will not be able to put it in the big brown bins anymore. Does this mean anyone who doesn't pay for the brown bin collection will get a new smaller food bin?

Also the collections of the large brown bin are going to be weekly so do as we are and share the cost between a few neighbours if you want to fight back a bit!!!

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Posted by kerry2015 May 10, 08:51PM

I'm in SE22 and have yet to receive any notification about this. I still have numerous brown paper bags that I use for my garden waste. Seems like a mess of a situation.

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by Sue May 10, 09:16PM

yeknomyeknom Wrote:
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> I hope the council has planned an environmentally
> friendly way to reuse the brown bins of the
> properties that no longer want them.
>
> If you are not keeping your bin, or even if you
> are, Southwark have subsidised composters via this
> site so you ca own one for only £10. A great way
> to get rid of food waste and lots of type of plant
> waste and grass cuttings etc. See here:
>
> [getcomposting.com]


You can't compost all food waste unless you have an (expensive) compost bin which can reach very high temperatures.

Plus putting meat waste into compost bins encourages rats and other vermin.

The dalek type of bins sold by Southwark are only suitable for fruit and veg and other plant based waste (plus paper and cardboard).



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messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by rollflick May 11, 08:29AM

Have finally got the "Your services are changing" booklet about this, never received a letter.

Dulwichfox - Looks like the sticker for those signing up to garden waste collection will have property address and expiry date on: can just about make this out on p3.

sally buying - had exactly the same question, don't want FOUR bins and agree having separate garden & food waste collections is going to cost a lot more, increase collection costs and congestion etc.

There's been no explanation at all why we need to separate food & garden waste and does not seem to make sense given info on the Southwark web site. There's only one Mechanical Biological Treatment Plant and it takes weeks to process each batch.
[www.southwark.gov.uk]



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messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by IlonaM May 11, 10:24AM

Still waiting for the promised second letter here.

What an ill-thought out scheme.

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by trinidad May 11, 10:27AM

For those who share a brown bin, has anyone had conversations with neighbours and devised paying 50% each???

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messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by singalto May 11, 10:37AM

The leaflet about how to get a sticker has just been stuck through my letter box. I donít understand why food and garden waste now need to be separated! Their main reason for charging for the brown bin appears to be that most people in the borough do not have a garden. Isnít this reflected in the council tax banding? We have until the 1st June to sign up!

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Posted by zxcvb May 11, 12:13PM

So I have just read the bit on Southwark website. As many of you have stated before you need a separate food bin and garden waste bin from June. But you have to order your new food bin, oh and it may take up to 6 weeks to deliver it, because they are introducing a new service. well duh! you think someone might have thought about that. But putting council incompetent planning to one side, any one got any suggestions as to what I am supposed to put my food waste in from June, until I get my new food bin. Last week they didn't empty my large brown bin, we has bits of garden waste and food waste bags in it, I am wondering if thats the reason.

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Posted by ladida May 11, 01:14PM

I'm glad that the foxes will now be able to get more free food after we've now separated their food for them. Does the council not realise there'll be food waste everywhere from the food caddies.

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Posted by Zig-Zag May 11, 01:45PM

It's only £30 a year for this first year, although actual charge is £25 this year, as the new charge is starting part way through the year. Expect it will double next year.

Totally ridiculous that I have had to order yet another ugly PLASTIC bin for food waste that can no longer be put into the Garden bin I'm now paying for. Moronic Council

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Posted by DulwichBorn&Bred May 11, 02:00PM

Put your food waste in the freezer when the bag is full and then transfer it to the brown food caddy the night before or in the morning. Itís stops the smells and wonít attract foxes etc.

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Posted by nxjen May 11, 02:37PM

The outdoor food caddies have efficient fox proof locking mechanisms

messageRe: Brown bin collection - Council starting to charge?
Posted by Glemham May 11, 02:51PM

Have just emailed my local councillors with this very question. Why canít Southwark see that if they provide explanations for their policy changes it might go some way to reducing the criticisms.

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