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messageSainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by tiddles 28 May, 2019 21:34

It seems that a load of the traditional conveyor belt tills have been removed and replaced
With more self scan stations. These are fine for baskets but what not for the large weekly trolley load.
What on earth it is going to be like at weekends i have no idea. Apparently they want to encourage
Scanning and paying by phone. I understand new technology takes time to become the norm but its as if they
Are trying to make it harder to undertake the weekly big shop.

It would seem the staff are also not keen and all overtime has been stopped.

I intend to complain via their website - the stores no longer record customer feedback.

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by dbboy 28 May, 2019 21:58

I thought something was happening when all the trolleys had an additional thing added to the handle and initially thought that all trolleys would need 1 coins to use them like other supermarkets, but perhaps the addition to the trolleys is for the hand held scanner to be attached to the trolley, just a thought??????????

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by Mrs Y 28 May, 2019 22:01

Handheld scanners coming very soon ....



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was 2019:05:28:22:06:49 by Mrs Y.

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by tiddles 28 May, 2019 22:15

But apparently we will have to queue to have the trolleys checked against the scanning device..

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by fishbiscuits 28 May, 2019 22:22

I remember some supermarkets having in-trolley scanners back in the 90s. I distinctly recall going to Sainos with my Mum, and being stopped on the way out by a security guard, performing some random checks. She was none too pleased about being picked for the spot check, and proceeded to give the guy a right earful.. I hid round the corner until it was all over!

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by slarti b 28 May, 2019 23:47

I wondered what those things were when I noticed them last week.

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by Bic Basher 29 May, 2019 01:00

They've removed four of the eight larger self scan checkouts as well.

Personally I think Sainsbury's has gone down since the refit. Not as much stock on sale, the reduction of the once excellent magazine section which rivaled WHSmith to a smaller selection of mags. Fine if you want a tv mag, but not if your fav PC mag is no longer stocked. Customer service is now reduced to being on the end of the cigarette kiosk as well.

But what the hell, I'll be able to use a fancy handheld scanner or my phone to pay for my shopping, so that staff don't get any overtime. Deep joy.

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by ed26 29 May, 2019 01:30

I loved the hand scanners 20 years ago when I was single and only did a small shop. I could zip in and out of the supermarket and bypass all the queues. Now I have a 4 yr old I dread to think how bad shopping will be when I have a gadget that he wants to play with.

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by JohnL 29 May, 2019 08:20

I downloaded the App - but surely scanning as I go will initially make me take even longer than currently (and I've hit two hours)

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by Penguin68 29 May, 2019 08:34

Assuming Sainsbury's pays minimum wage for their till staff we should demand pro-rata if they are asking us to do a till staff job. Or maybe the London Living Wage?

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by Rebs_ED 29 May, 2019 09:29

It will be interesting to see if Sainsbury's do introduce a 'scan as you shop' option. In other parts of the country, Waitrose have had that option for well over a decade and Tesco, not quite as long but for a good few years. I believe Sainsbury's are now introducing it into stores too. None of the large Tesco or Waitrose shops I have been to since moving to London last year have had the scanners in store.

Scanning as you shop is a huge time saving compared to a 'traditional' shop - if only because you handle any item only once - off the shelf, scan, into your own shopping bag. Compared with item from shelf into basket/trolley, item out to be scanned at checkout, then into own bag.

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by nxjen 29 May, 2019 09:39

I think the Waitrose in Beckenham already does self scanning

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by JohnL 29 May, 2019 09:56

Rebs_ED Wrote:
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> Scanning as you shop is a huge time saving
> compared to a 'traditional' shop - if only because
> you handle any item only once - off the shelf,
> scan, into your own shopping bag. Compared with
> item from shelf into basket/trolley, item out to
> be scanned at checkout, then into own bag.

I hope it does - I get the issue mentioned about staff, hope they use them for other work rather than profit.

"into own bag" a recent thread comes to mind smiling smiley

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by dbboy 29 May, 2019 09:56

They have introduced self scan at their Savacentre in Bell Green/lower sydenham.

If DKH have removed, as reported some of the self checkouts it will just create longer queuing elsewhere. Tesco on OKR have done a similar thing removing checkouts and the queues at the self checkouts has become much longer, especially when only 4 of the 8 self checkouts are operational. Unfortunately DKH Sainsbo's seem to now also only have 4 of the 8 self check tills working at each bank of self checkouts. I thought it was all about helping customers get through checkouts more easily.

If the technology works all well and good but even the self checkouts seem to be temperamental and stop half way through a transaction requiring staff to come over and swipe a fob on the checkout to clear the error.

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by nxjen 29 May, 2019 11:55

Smart shop launching 13 June

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by Jacqui5254 29 May, 2019 12:13

I rarely use self scanners as I object to the reduction in available jobs.

And now overtime it seems.

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by dbboy 29 May, 2019 12:32

Their should be a reduction for those that use self service or self scan (the only difference being one's static and the other is mobile)

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by VelvetBlueberry 29 May, 2019 12:35

Maybe they should improve their self scan stations before trying to force them onto customers; they can be a real pain at times & then I feel like I'm troubling the assistant (even though that's their job).

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by Angelina 29 May, 2019 13:01

I just don't go there anymore

It's too stressful.

I like Lidl and Waitrose - and save lots of money compared to Sainsubury

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by Pugwash 29 May, 2019 14:08

As one of the few people who do not have a mobile phone I object to being pressurised by the council/Sainsburys/ and any other corporate body to own one in order to pay for goods or services. Many elderly (and younger) people do not have mobiles for various reasons including disability, nor do they pay by card.

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by Rebs_ED 29 May, 2019 14:12

Pugwash Wrote:
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> As one of the few people who do not have a mobile
> phone I object to being pressurised by the
> council/Sainsburys/ and any other corporate body
> to own one in order to pay for goods or services.
> Many elderly (and younger) people do not have
> mobiles for various reasons including disability,
> nor do they pay by card.

You won't necessarily need use a smart phone - there are hand held scanners that can be used.

[www.sainsburys.co.uk]

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by nxjen 29 May, 2019 14:24

And there will still be operator checkouts and self scan checkouts, it wont be obligatory to use the smart checkout

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by rollflick 29 May, 2019 17:47

Last few times I've used the conveyor belt tills the scanners used seemed pretty knackered, so the staff had to keep typing the bar codes in. Meanwhile the self service tills are particularly annoying if you want to use your own large bag and wait to approval every time it leans over.

Really glad to hear this new service is coming, sure my phone camera will work better as a scanner. Plus you won't need to remember to bring the Nectar card, as it seems integrated in the app. And hopefully having bar codes you can print out for loose fruit n veg will mean Sainsbury's can finally reduce the mountains of packaging it currently uses.



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messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by JohnL 29 May, 2019 18:06

My Phone App says "Scan your Items, pay in the app and walk out"

So no smart checkout - just all iPhone Apple Pay.

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by peckham_ryu 29 May, 2019 19:27

Quite excited about this, can't wait to have a go!

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by Bic Basher 30 May, 2019 00:52

Dulwich will have SmartShop card only tills for those who use the scanners. Mobile phone users will be able to use the SmartShop app.

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by Sue 30 May, 2019 07:35

JohnL Wrote:
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> My Phone App says "Scan your Items, pay in the
> app and walk out"
>
> So no smart checkout - just all iPhone Apple Pay.


It can't all be for iPhones, surely.

Many of us have Android smiling smiley

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by nxjen 30 May, 2019 07:43

JohnL Wrote:
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> My Phone App says "Scan your Items, pay in the
> app and walk out"
>
> So no smart checkout - just all iPhone Apple Pay.

They already have smart checkouts installed awaiting the roll out in June.

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by JohnL 30 May, 2019 10:27

Sue Wrote:
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> JohnL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > My Phone App says "Scan your Items, pay in the
> > app and walk out"
> >
> > So no smart checkout - just all iPhone Apple
> Pay.
>
>
> It can't all be for iPhones, surely.
>
> Many of us have Android smiling smiley


Of course smiling smiley - It'll be Apple Pay or Google Pay. Here it is in the Google Store.

[play.google.com]

messageRe: Sainsburys - removed more trolley tills
Posted by snoopy17 30 May, 2019 18:54

Not being funny how much time will it save you, if you plan on going shopping you obviously are not rushing to get to an appointment afterwards.
How dare they presume everyone has this boring technology, does it take that much time paying by cash. This is obviously so the staff doesn't need to touch your money which is why all the staff wear winter gloves.

Also noticed the tills which used to be blocked off with trolleys near the toilets now look half the width of a normal counter. Its

All the cabbages and cauliflower are loose now and everyone can touch them.. it's stupid and a waste of time as they are not saving the use of plastic as you need to put your item in a plastic bag and now put a sticker on it with a barcode on it. Where as the plastic bag covering the cauliflower before already had the barrcode on it.
It's too hot down the vegetable isle the vegetables are going off quickly.

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