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This affects me so badly. I?m undergoing cancer treatment at Guy?s. being able to get a seat, not have to change then level walk made all the difference yesterday. Probably my last time able to do that journey and make it albeit exhausted. I did make the point in the TfL consultation. Guy?s is centre for most cancer treatment now. Bus, train from Ed then longer walk with the equivalent of 20kg lead weights tied to your legs will just be too much. I?m lucky, I can afford a cab but that?s just bonkers.
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Bus routes in this area are appalling! and seem to just get worse.

TFL obviously assume we all have nothing better to do than stick around our immediate area eating Pizzas and drinking Lattes and Craft beer-which I believe links nicely to a couple of other threads on this forum.

Actually...maybe the sweetshop opened so we can placate ourselves with a bag of sugary goodies as we wait at a string of different bus stops all over SE London in order to get anywhere half way central!

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It all seems unnecessary duplication, if you live on East Dulwich Grove and want to travel to Farringdon, you can either walk to Peckham Rye as now and get the 63 and from Saturday walk to Goose Green and get the 40, while those in LL, Grove Vale and DKH lose their direct bus service to London Bridge.
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Miacis Wrote:

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I can afford a cab but

> that?s just bonkers.


I'd recommend the Kapten app. They're doing fixed price fares unlike Uber. The fare from Goose Green to Guys as I type is ?10.30.

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London Mayor Sadiq Khan promised a fares freeze during the 2016 London elections. So to reduce costs to pay for this election promise bus frequencies were cut last summer. Now bus routes are being cut, merged and re routed.

Effectively the majority in London unwittingly voted for these cuts.

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Most buses during the day are empty anyway. Compared to the rest of the country and possibly the world, we have an unbelievable bus service.



If some cuts and changes have to be made from time to time due to changing dynamics and financial savings then so be it.


Hopefully people are aware that there is a train service from East Dulwich to London Bridge which takes about 10 minutes and runs, i believe, every 15 minutes.

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James Barber Wrote:

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> London Mayor Sadiq Khan promised a fares freeze

> during the 2016 London elections. So to reduce

> costs to pay for this election promise bus

> frequencies were cut last summer. Now bus routes

> are being cut, merged and re routed.

> Effectively the majority in London unwittingly

> voted for these cuts.


Quite right. Khan gets lots of positive national headlines because Trump doesn't like him, but the reality is things are getting worse transport wise in ED. This is a massive reduction in local service. And of course our local Labour councillors simply rolled over. Not a scintilla of fight or exercising influence. Party loyalty over loyalty to the area they are supposed to represent.

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Ridiculous. Talk to people in towns (not villages) outside of London, where the one sole bus route is under threat from getting axed, not because they are unpopular, because of funding cuts.


There is a bus that runs up Lordship Lane every 4 minutes at present. What more do you want?!


If you personally really want to get somewhere specific, really quickly, then there are also a million taxis you can order. For all other times, please wait patiently for a bus that will be along in a few minutes, and try not to sound so pathetically entitled while you are at it.

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Bic Basher Wrote:

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> Miacis Wrote:

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> I can afford a cab but

> > that?s just bonkers.

>

> I'd recommend the Kapten app. They're doing fixed

> price fares unlike Uber. The fare from Goose

> Green to Guys as I type is ?10.30.



That's very good.


I had to get a taxi home from Guy's a few weeks ago and it was more than twice that :(

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Humdinger Wrote:

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> Ridiculous. Talk to people in towns (not villages)

> outside of London, where the one sole bus route is

> under threat from getting axed, not because they

> are unpopular, because of funding cuts.

>

> There is a bus that runs up Lordship Lane every 4

> minutes at present. What more do you want?!

>

> If you personally really want to get somewhere

> specific, really quickly, then there are also a

> million taxis you can order. For all other times,

> please wait patiently for a bus that will be along

> in a few minutes, and try not to sound so

> pathetically entitled while you are at it.


It is not 'Pathetically entitled' to expect to get to my job as a 'lowly shop Assistant' in the west end in less than an hour.Using public transport because Believe it or not mate shop workers do not earn enough to get taxis to and from our jobs.

I pay ?1500 a year for my Oyster card because much as I would love to use the cheaper and less claustrophobic option of busses to and from work the bus routes simply aren't good enough so I'm reliant on the overground to change to the Jubilee line at hideously overcrowded Canada Water.

In the summer and at Christmas many West end shops close at 10pm I get out at 10.30 when I'm on a late shift and frankly having to walk 15 minutes to get a bus that brings me over the river only to have to then change to another bus around Elephant and castle and then change again to be near my home does not appeal as a lone female who's been standing for 8hours on a shop floor-Also I'd be lucky to get home before midnight.

Belive it or not (hard I know as some of you wrongly believe the area is full of gentrified people sipping lattes and working on their laptops from home or doing highly paid city jobs) I moved here because I could no longer afford to live in West London Where I only used busses to get to work.

If I wanted to live in a village with one bus I'd have left London completely.

In this day and age of rising rents (?1000 a month for a bed sit in W2) more and more people are moving further from the inner city. Its about time TFL realised that areas like ours are populated by people who rely on good transport links to get us into our jobs at present the busses and trains just aren't good enough.

Busses are overcrowded as are trains and as for a bus every 4 miniutes on Lordship lane?

That sure as hell isn't the 185 or 176 which are the only routes that get us anywhere near central.

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Tell you what mate, why don't you put your little rant in a little letter and send it to the mayor's office, proposing that he set up a new bus route entirely for you to get to work on time.



Your attitude is horrendous- you literally think that London should revolve around you, rather than the vice versa, because you like every other person, has to face the grind of a daily commute to work. I also have to get the overground into Canada Water and change onto the terribly overcrowded Jubilee Line, but guess what mate? That's what i have to do to go to work, and i have to deal with that. It all part and parcel of living in London.


Perhaps, it might make your life easier and happier if you searched for a "lowly shop assistant" job nearby to where you live, or perhaps leave London altogether if you cant hack it. And dont even bother responding crying "why should i?!", because you clearly are a spoilt individual who just doesn't quite understand how life in London works.

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We are fairly well served with bus routes in ED - knowing that I can get 185/176/40 to Camberwell etc is great and also the choice of 185/176/197 to Forest Hill and beyond.


Having relatives living in West Sussex where there are no late night buses and you are forced to use cabs (if you can find a company) you appreciate our bus service. Where my daughter lives there are no buses after 10 pm and also no buses to take you to the nearest supermarket a couple of miles away. Where my parents lived - initially there was an hourly bus which over 20 years changed to every 15 minutes and now runs to about 10.30 pm. We were caught out one year as the train we were on was running 30 minutes late, we missed the last bus, and it cost us almost ?30 for 6 miles for a cab.

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James Barber Wrote:

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> London Mayor Sadiq Khan promised a fares freeze

> during the 2016 London elections. So to reduce

> costs to pay for this election promise bus

> frequencies were cut last summer. Now bus routes

> are being cut, merged and re routed.

> Effectively the majority in London unwittingly

> voted for these cuts.


This was so obviously going to happen - basic economnics. People should also be aware of the unintended consequences of both Rent Freezes and Utility prices as the results will be similar decline in quality - declined investment, = poorer services/availability etc etc.

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