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messageDulwich health centre - naming
Posted by B&G 07 August, 2019 10:01

Melbourne Grove medical practice and another a merging and a new practice is being built
On the hospital site.

Staff and residents have been asked to come up with a name for it, and now six options are available to vote on.

One option is the Tessa Jowell Health Centre. The same Tessa Jowell who’s husband - whose legal practices lead him to be charged - was given a 4 year sentence for accepting bribes from Burlusconi. A claim he admitted, and subsequently denied. Who on earth thinks of this stuff?

***edited to satisfy someone who read the opening sentence of the David Mills wiki page**



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was 2019:08:07:13:30:49 by B&G.

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by B&G 07 August, 2019 10:08


messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by V511 07 August, 2019 10:18

Have voted. Trying to work out though why 'The final name must be approved London Fire Brigade'?

any ideas?

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by Penguin68 07 August, 2019 11:05

I suspect that it is important that a hospital's name should be clearly understandable and without confusion so that any call to the Fire Brigade will be correctly directed. If the name is too close to another then the appliances may be misdirected. The Brigade should be able to estimate what confusion levels, if any, sit in any of the names that might be chosen.

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by Chris08 07 August, 2019 11:21

They probably - rightly- think that what Tessa Jowell's husband did has no bearing on her as an individual person

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by Penguin68 07 August, 2019 11:25

The same Tessa Jowell who’s husband - a corrupt lawyer - was banged up for accepting bribes from Burlusconi.

From Wiki:- He was accused of money-laundering and alleged tax fraud involving Silvio Berlusconi; he was convicted in first instance and on appeal, but the conviction was quashed by the Supreme Court of Cassation. (my emphasis).

[en.wikipedia.org])

Probably that statement made by the OP is thus actionable under English Law. His appeal was based on a statute of limitations defence, but certainly he was never accused of accepting bribes (indeed the question would suggest itself, 'bribed to do what'?)

Anyway, it triggered me to vote for Tessa as choice one.

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by V511 07 August, 2019 12:23

Thanks Penguin68, that makes senses.

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by ianr 07 August, 2019 12:40

> Anyway, it triggered me to vote for Tessa as choice one.

I hope that wasn't the intention of the OP, to engineer a sympathy vote.

I won't be voting to have her name used; for reasons nothing at all to do with her husband, her personal life, or with party politics.

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by peckham_ryu 07 August, 2019 13:09

The ongoing fad for naming public buildings after the worthy departed is such a bore. I almost feel sorry for Charles de Gaulle, commemorated by one of the most awful major airports of the world. Just say where it is! East Dulwich Health Centre makes so much sense.

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by micromacromonkey 07 August, 2019 14:24

Great, I voted for Tessa Jowell. I also placed the 'wellness' one last as I find the concept of 'wellness' and its associated pseudoscience peddlers most irritating.

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by James Barber 07 August, 2019 14:44

East Dulwich Health Centre for me. Clear what is and where it is.

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by first mate 07 August, 2019 15:10

Ditto.

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by JohnL 07 August, 2019 17:18

"The Moody Health Centre" has a ring to it and I'd never heard of him until I saw that but as I'm in Peckham Rye and am registered at Melbourne Grove and guess I'll still be in the catchment area I'll vote for 'South Southwark Health Centre'

But I'll go with the majority vote smiling smiley

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by bloodoranges 07 August, 2019 17:41

Tessa Jowell gave so much to us, she introduced Sure Start, maternity and paternity leave and strengthened equal pay laws so I'd say her name was a good choice as a whole.

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by Peckhamgatecrasher 08 August, 2019 07:43

And the Fixed Odds Betting Terminals, and their impact on betting shop proliferation in London?

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by KatieJ 08 August, 2019 10:55

What on earth is wrong with healthy mchealthface ?

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by Sue 08 August, 2019 12:31

bloodoranges Wrote:
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> Tessa Jowell gave so much to us, she introduced
> Sure Start, maternity and paternity leave and
> strengthened equal pay laws so I'd say her name
> was a good choice as a whole.


She was an excellent constituency MP, as well.

I voted for East Dulwich Health Centre as being the clearest and most obvious name, but I voted second for Tessa (and third for Moody)

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by alice 08 August, 2019 14:11

East dulwich medical centre too easily confused with dulwich health centre

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by Sue 08 August, 2019 17:40

alice Wrote:
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> East dulwich medical centre too easily confused
> with dulwich health centre


What/where is Dulwich Health Centre??

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by alice 08 August, 2019 19:47

My point exactly

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by peckham_ryu 08 August, 2019 20:41

alice Wrote:
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> East dulwich medical centre too easily confused
> with dulwich health centre

The DMC sites aren’t exactly confusable with East Dulwich Health Centre. They tend to call themselves by their initials and site name (e.g. DMC Chadwick Road - which seems not to suffer from local confusion, despite not being in Dulwich at all).

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by kford 08 August, 2019 22:03

EDHC/East Dulwich Health Centre.

That's what it'll be called.

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by alice 08 August, 2019 22:18

Initialism doesn’t work for location.
If more than three letters are involved

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by Sue 08 August, 2019 22:48

alice Wrote:
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> My point exactly


Sorry to be dim, but I genuinely don't understand.

I've never heard of Dulwich Health Centre.

Did you mean DMC in Crystal Palace Road?

It never even occurred to me that they could be confused!

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by kford 09 August, 2019 06:50

alice Wrote:
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> Initialism doesn’t work for location.
> If more than three letters are involved


GCHQ
UCLA
NYPD
YMCA

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by alice 09 August, 2019 13:45

Looks like I’m wrong.

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by Penguin68 09 August, 2019 14:47

TLAs are however far more frequent.

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by B&G 09 August, 2019 15:52

If only it's acronym was YMCA. Glorious.

I think it is currently being called 'the new Dulwich health centre', but that's not it's actual name, IYSWIM? But in order to hold a vote on what it should be called, they have to call it something so we know what's being talked about. So it's will be a GP surgery in Dulwich on the site of the old hospital, but it isn't there yet.

The Dulwich Medical Centre is a GP practice that currently exists and is not to be confused with the future, unnamed but currently referred to as the new Dulwich health centre. Geddit?

messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by Froglander 09 August, 2019 16:13

Does anyone know all the services that will be there? I heard there will be a pharmacy inside.



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messageRe: Dulwich health centre - naming
Posted by JohnL 09 August, 2019 16:33

LOL just voted and there's two types of voters in this poll (by survey monkey not the NHS )- those who voted by changing the numbers and those who dragged and dropped smiling smiley

which are you ?

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