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messageFireworks at 10.30 pm - Dulwich Village area?
Posted by Metallic 06 October, 2019 19:15

My poor dog went in to a complete tizz because the fireworks disturbed him so badly - I bet I'm not alone in that. It is only about three weeks ago we had another late display which was at Alleyn's School. Was this one at the College? Anyone know? It is time these organisations actually warned residents so they can prepare for the noise and so we can be with our terrified animals.

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Posted by dbboy 06 October, 2019 19:36

Could hear them on the SE22/SE23 border last night.

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Posted by IlonaM 06 October, 2019 19:49

I am towards the bottom of Underhill SE22 and I could see them from my sitting room window. It looked as if they were near/behind the church with the steeple on Lordship Lane near the bottom of Underhill (opposite the Concrete House)- can't remember its name. Sounded like the Blitz. Quite large fireworks.

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Posted by ab29 06 October, 2019 20:26

'Sounded like the Blitz' - my thoughts exactly! Really hate what it does to animals. I live near Horniman Museum and it seemed very close - Dulwich College perhaps.

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Posted by siousxiesue 06 October, 2019 20:30

10.30 far too late for that kind of noise nuisance.

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Posted by KalamityKel 06 October, 2019 21:00

[www.gov.uk] <-- just saying

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Posted by FriendsOfTheTerrapin 06 October, 2019 22:51

I think youll find that the culprit was Dulwich and Sydenham Hill Golf Club 125th Anniversary Dinner and Fireworks night...

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Posted by IlonaM 07 October, 2019 06:51

FriendsOfTheTerrapin Wrote:
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> I think youll find that the culprit was Dulwich
> and Sydenham Hill Golf Club 125th Anniversary
> Dinner and Fireworks night...

Ah, that would fit in with behind the church. I feel for the horses at the stables as well.

They looked more professional than domestic fireworks.

messageRe: Fireworks at 10.30 pm - Dulwich Village area?
Posted by Metallic 07 October, 2019 09:36

We should all complain if we were affected. There is no reason why an organisation, club or school can't make an effort to tell people in advance. All it takes is a few quid to leaflet or post leaflets up in a diameter of a mile.

messageRe: Fireworks at 10.30 pm - Dulwich Village area?
Posted by goldilocks 07 October, 2019 10:14

I think more broadly its yet again a question of appropriateness and judgement. The sound in this area carries horribly - we heard them up by East Dulwich Station so it definitely wasn't just a very local issue - they woke up one of my kids.

I don't believe that fireworks at 10-10:30 are appropriate in a residential area. Its dark by 8 these days so a 9pm curfew on fireworks would seem reasonable. Event planners need to realise they're not Disneyland - so fireworks arent' your 'go home' messsage!

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Posted by imasnookercue 07 October, 2019 11:05

As someone has already pointed out, if there was fireworks being let off at 10:30pm then there is absolutely nothing wrong with this. They are allowed to by law, and to expect people to not have fireworks just because you might upset some dog that might live nearby is unreasonable. Ill be letting plenty off this autumn and do not expect anyone to complain, or theyll be told the law as well as my opinions on the matter.

Also i consider comparing some fireworks to the Blitz in poor taste, especially when they would be nowhere near the same.

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Posted by SpringTime 07 October, 2019 12:25

After 125 years would it have been too much to wait a few more weeks? Ah well.

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Posted by Asset 07 October, 2019 13:09

I'm just wondering, if you had advanced warning, how you would prepare the dog for this?

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Posted by Asset 07 October, 2019 13:10

Seems to me it's a first world problem really.

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Posted by goldilocks 07 October, 2019 13:27

I think there is a difference between 'not illegal' or 'nothing stopping them' vs what is appropriate and responsible. There are lots of things we could all do legally that would make the lives of people living around us much less pleasant.

Coming off the back of the Alleyn's 400th anniversary celebrations fireworks (also ridiculously late and going on for a long time) these additional late fireworks haven't been well received and a little consideration from people planning events would be good.

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Posted by Metallic 07 October, 2019 13:56

The people I know make a point of being in with the dog in the firework season rather than leaving it alone.

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Posted by Angelina 07 October, 2019 14:24

You can actually get less noisy fireworks. It's just inconsiderate to be so loud and not care how it will affect people.

People expect fireworks at certain times of the year - otherwise, in a community, they should be advertised so people can take appropriate measures. Like staying in - or keeping the cats in.

It's not hard and to be honest, they would have thought about it and decided it didn't' matter/ wasn't worth the trouble.

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Posted by Hemingway 07 October, 2019 14:24

I heard them, they were noisy, they lasted all of 10 minutes or so. Seriously what is wrong with people go and live in the middle of the country if you can't stand a few fireworks at 10.30pm on a Saturday.

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Posted by imasnookercue 07 October, 2019 14:27

Hemingway Wrote:
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> I heard them, they were noisy, they lasted all of
> 10 minutes or so. Seriously what is wrong with
> people go and live in the middle of the country if
> you can't stand a few fireworks at 10.30pm on a
> Saturday.


Ridiculous isnt it. Some people shouldnt live in London at all if they are going to get annoyed at some fireworks on the weekend.

messageRe: Fireworks at 10.30 pm - Dulwich Village area?
Posted by first mate 07 October, 2019 14:34

I'm getting tired of the mantra that because we live in the city there is no need for simple courtesies. I'd have thought the closer you live to others the more careful you should be.

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Posted by Hemingway 07 October, 2019 14:37

It was a firework display within legal hours in capital city FFS

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Posted by Asset 07 October, 2019 14:44

I would imagine it was advertised somewhere.

How far should they be leafleting? It's just impractical to expect an organisation to leaflet every house within a - say 2 mile - radius.

It was 10 minutes of fireworks at 10pmish on a Saturday night - I really think people just love to complain about things. And if you must - there are far worse things we could be complaining about.

Stop being so Grinchy.

Some people live in war-zones where there are load explosions going on at all hours - that might actually kill them.

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Posted by first mate 07 October, 2019 15:01

The poster who started this thread was not being "grinchy" he or she stated the impact that 10 minutes had on his dog. Those affects can be long term you know. All it takes is 10 minutes out of the blue and bingo you have a long lasting and potentially serious problem. Firework noises are of a different order to everyday city sounds...please don't simply dismiss the effects of something when you may not fully appreciate the consequencea.

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Posted by imasnookercue 07 October, 2019 15:07

I would actually argue that maybe if fireworks apparently 'upset' their dog, then they shouldnt have a dog. Its not particularly kind keeping a dog indoors within a big city anyway- it would have a happier life in the countryside and wouldnt have to listen to other peoples fireworks.

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Posted by Angelina 07 October, 2019 15:09

Fireworks are actually really frightening for dogs and can make them behave in unpredictable ways, which can be unsafe and dangerous for them.

Owners need to be able to prepare and plan and be there when they start - which is usually at expected times.

It's thoughtless in a community to not care about other people and the effects this has on them.

No one is being boring - just practical and concerned.

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Posted by first mate 07 October, 2019 15:25

And children that get upset...? Are you also going to argue that people with children that get upset by fireworks should ship out too?

Forget the myriad emotional and social benefits pet ownership gives to so many, let's make the option to have a 10 minutes worth of ear-splitting impromptu explosions the priority.

messageRe: Fireworks at 10.30 pm - Dulwich Village area?
Posted by Asset 07 October, 2019 15:52

Oh my god - turn the TV up for 10 minutes so the dog can't hear them - or should we all not get to enjoy fireworks anymore because a few dogs might get upset. And I'm speaking as someone who has cats and a dog.
The OP was in with the dog, else how did they know the poor dog was so terrified?, I'm sure 10 minutes of loud TV would have cured the problem.
Jeez - no one died.

Anyway - so is anyone going to suggest any practical way an organisation can mitigate the irritation and very temporary inconvenience some people clearly suffer or are you just going to moan on here?

messageRe: Fireworks at 10.30 pm - Dulwich Village area?
Posted by pk 07 October, 2019 16:06

Angelina Wrote:
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> Fireworks are actually really frightening for dogs
> and can make them behave in unpredictable ways,
> which can be unsafe and dangerous for them.
>
> Owners need to be able to prepare and plan and be
> there when they start - which is usually at
> expected times.
>
> It's thoughtless in a community to not care about
> other people and the effects this has on them.
>
> No one is being boring - just practical and
> concerned.


so if we're running stupid arguments - lots of children are scared of dogs, so shouldn't dog owners care about those terrified and traumatised children and not have dogs that they take out in public?

or are the rights of dogs more important than those of children?

or is this all really a bit ridiculous?

messageRe: Fireworks at 10.30 pm - Dulwich Village area?
Posted by pk 07 October, 2019 16:15

Metallic Wrote:
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> There is no reason why an organisation, club or school
> can't make an effort to tell people in advance.
> All it takes is a few quid to leaflet or post
> leaflets up in a diameter of a mile.

it wouldn't be good for the environment tho would it? all that unnecessary paper

messageRe: Fireworks at 10.30 pm - Dulwich Village area?
Posted by Angelina 07 October, 2019 16:26

they could post on the forum

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