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messagePeckham West CPZ - Consultation Deadline 17th October
Posted by Zak 16 October, 2019 10:58

Just a reminder that tomorrow is the deadline for submitting comments/objections in respect of the proposed Peckham West CPZ.

Probably the simplest way to do it, is by email to traffic.orders@southwark.gov.uk

But remember you must:
* quote the reference no. ‘TMO1920-026 Peckham W parking zone’
* give your name and full address, and say if you are resident, business or visitor &
* state the reasons for any objections you have.

You will receive an automated acknowledgement

The deadline is Thursday 17th October 2019.
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messageRe: Peckham West CPZ - Consultation Deadline 17th October
Posted by Penguin68 16 October, 2019 13:29

If it goes like the ED one, what you collectively say you want, and what the powers that be in their infinite wisdom will give you will have little overlap. Unless, collectively, you want CPZs imposed on every street in the survey. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. If so, your prayers will be answered.

messageRe: Peckham West CPZ - Consultation Deadline 17th October
Posted by ed26 16 October, 2019 14:00

I've always been against the CPZ as a matter of principle. It seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut, and will simply create unnecessary costs and bureaucracy.

But if it reduces the amount of people reserving four car-lengths with their bins for days on end, or having unlicenced skips and toilets in the road for months, or mossy, rusty "car projects" for years, then maybe this cloud has a silver lining.

messageRe: Peckham West CPZ - Consultation Deadline 17th October
Posted by MJRealDavies 16 October, 2019 14:21

I'm all for it. Sick to death of driving around for 20 minutes looking for a space everytime i come home.

messageRe: Peckham West CPZ - Consultation Deadline 17th October
Posted by KalamityKel 17 October, 2019 06:30

MJRealDavies Wrote:
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> I'm all for it. Sick to death of driving around
> for 20 minutes looking for a space everytime i
> come home.

Careful, given the ratio of car owners to spaces in streets, the whole driving around finding somewhere to park adventure won't go away. Just means you'll have further to go and the neighbouring streets not with CPZ wont be happy either.

messageRe: Peckham West CPZ - Consultation Deadline 17th October
Posted by rahrahrah 17 October, 2019 09:55

MJRealDavies Wrote:
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> I'm all for it. Sick to death of driving around
> for 20 minutes looking for a space everytime i
> come home.

There are more cars than spaces on most streets, especially on those where houses have been split into flats, or there are blocks of flats. A CPZ may make it a little easier to park, but not much and you'll be paying for the privilege of driving around looking for a space. It will also make it a lot more inconvenient to visit others, or have then visit you in the car / deliveries/ builders etc.

messageRe: Peckham West CPZ - Consultation Deadline 17th October
Posted by MJRealDavies 17 October, 2019 16:14

rahrahrah Wrote:
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> MJRealDavies Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm all for it. Sick to death of driving around
> > for 20 minutes looking for a space everytime i
> > come home.
>
> There are more cars than spaces on most streets,
> especially on those where houses have been split
> into flats, or there are blocks of flats. A CPZ
> may make it a little easier to park, but not much
> and you'll be paying for the privilege of driving
> around looking for a space. It will also make it a
> lot more inconvenient to visit others, or have
> then visit you in the car / deliveries/ builders
> etc.

only time will tell! Worth hundred quid to find out...

messageRe: Peckham West CPZ - Consultation Deadline 17th October
Posted by ed26 18 October, 2019 00:30

Parking never works out as expected, but it's all fun and games.

1. When they resurfaced our road, the entire street had to be emptied, but the neighbouring streets didn't seem any busier than usual, and even still had spaces.

2. When I lived out of town in a street with garages, it was a nightmare to park in our street, but as soon as there was a heavy frost, the street was empty.

3. And a while back, I parked in Hampstead in a space that was CPZ/Pay & Display from 8am-10am, and got called a c**t by a posh man in a Bentley, who was clearly waiting to park in the space as soon as 10am passed. Made my day.

Any one of these could happen to you. Apart from #2 as there aren't many garages around here.

But anyway, I agree with rah - even though the skips, project cars and toilets will be gone, cars will appear out of nowhere and fill up the spaces.

Having said that, we're deep into the proposed CPZ and our street is definitely busier with parking in the day than the evening (no idea why) so it might just work out better.

And I'll be less cross about cars with CPZ permits taking up the spaces than skips and toilets. Unless they don't police it. Then I'll be even more cross - what am I paying my CPZ charge for? Grrrr.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was 2019:10:18:00:38:36 by ed26.

messageRe: Peckham West CPZ - Consultation Deadline 17th October
Posted by rahrahrah 18 October, 2019 17:23

I would still like to know what the aim of the CPZ is. If it's to encourage more 'active travel' and to reduce car usage, then perhaps pedestrianisation and segregated cycle lanes would be a more appropriate response. If it's just about making it easier / more convenient to own a car, then the council should probably be honest about it.

messageRe: Peckham West CPZ - Consultation Deadline 17th October
Posted by jimlad48 23 October, 2019 18:31

As a counter point, I would say the toastrsck CPZ has after 2yrs resulted in vastly reduced congestion, many more spaces and much quieter roads. Not one of the doomladen events some here prophesised would occur actually happebed.

messageRe: Peckham West CPZ - Consultation Deadline 17th October
Posted by spider69 23 October, 2019 19:03

Is this because you/Toastrack were granted an all day CPZ whilst others were only told they could have a 2 hours CPZ?

messageRe: Peckham West CPZ - Consultation Deadline 17th October
Posted by jimlad48 23 October, 2019 19:45

I dont think it makes any difference. Two hour CPZ are just as good. It genuinely made our lives vastly better. I love having a CPZ.

messageRe: Peckham West CPZ - Consultation Deadline 17th October
Posted by Vick 24 October, 2019 07:10

Do you mean the toast rack in Camberwell? If so, there are some very obvious differences

messageRe: Peckham West CPZ - Consultation Deadline 17th October
Posted by jimlad48 25 October, 2019 04:21

Not really - its a CPZ. For years every CPZ that has come in gets naysayers here predicting the end of the world. None of their predictions have ever come true.


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