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messageSupport our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by christine56 25 November, 2019 13:48

Hi East Dulwich people
FYI Southwark are considering allowing a company called
Treeamigos to sell trees in goose green park. This company
Come from Devon.
Please support your local Xmas tree sellers who pay lot of
Money for a street license in Southwark some of these sellers
Have been selling every year some for over 20years
Please Dont put our local people out of business,support our
Locals not people coming to force us out
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messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by Sally Eva 25 November, 2019 18:12

The street sellers "pay a lot of money for their street licences" to Southwark. Presumably they make a profit.

Treeamigos may be these guys: [www.treeamigos.org]

Presumably they make a profit too.

We can all make up our own minds.

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by Curmudgeon 26 November, 2019 06:00

So the people are locals not the trees?

Should we ask for proof of address before purchase?

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by nxjen 26 November, 2019 07:39

Looking at OPís posting history, she seems to have a thing about Christmas trees

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by Peckhamgatecrasher 27 November, 2019 12:16

"...considering allowing..."

From the activity in the park today, I'd say it was a done deal.

I can't say I'm happy that a commercial enterprise is taking a huge chunk of the green for what will be weeks - it's not even December yet. Who buys trees this early? It's not like one day events for fetes and fairs.

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by nxjen 27 November, 2019 12:52

I havenít seen the Christmas trees for sale on Goose Green but I always find the sight of Christmas trees waiting to be sold rather jolly. Southwark will be receiving much needed revenue from the sellers. Selling trees in public parks is nothing new, Iíve seen them being sold in Brockwell and Battersea Parks, and there are probably many more parks where they are sold.

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by Fitzgeraldo 27 November, 2019 16:27

Does their licence include permission to block the whole pavement outside the EDT for about month so that no pedestrian can get by without risking life and limb by walking in the road?

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by Peckhamgatecrasher 27 November, 2019 17:22

Brockwell and Battersea are large parks. Taking a chunk from the Green makes a big difference.

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by KidKruger 27 November, 2019 22:07

Yeah there's a whole area (most of the Western side of GG) cordoned off for the tree operation.
Where will the poor souls buying trees park, if they're coming by car ?!
I did wonder as I passed the cordoned area, whether it was being set up for cars to come actually onto the green - which I hope is not the case.

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by Alexthecamel 27 November, 2019 23:39

You can also buy locally- collect from Jags or get delivered and support a fantastic charity
Your tree helps put hot food on the tables at The Feast, a weekly drop-in meeting. Last year we served 4500 three-course meals.

[www.kingschristmastrees.org]



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messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by BrandNewGuy 28 November, 2019 08:03

And the trees sold in the car park at The Plough are in aid of St Christopher's Hospice.

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by Penguin68 28 November, 2019 09:55

Remember there are regular shops (i.e. florists) who are with us 52 weeks a year and who stock trees - the guy in the Parade opposite (sort of) the old Harvester (next to the former Barcelona) is a great florist and sources good trees. And wreaths and other Christmas greenery.

Edited to add:- ...and of course our local garden centres, again serving us 52 weeks a year.



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messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by Cora 28 November, 2019 10:20

I don't have a problem with a 'pop-up', most of them are, excluding Penguin's good point above, but I do have a problem with a beautiful community park being taken over for commercial use in the run up to Christmas...it's just far too big...a corner of Dulwich Park would be more appropriate....horrible for the residents looking out onto and the dog walkers...and within metres of the Church..

I am assuming it is there until Christmas but maybe I've got that wrong...maybe it's just for the Christmas Cracker...ironic when I thought that was to boost local businesses?

Anyone have an email address of who to contact at the council.....

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by nxjen 28 November, 2019 10:36

Having now seen Treeamigos on Goose Green, I agree it is a dreadful eyesore and totally out of keeping made worse by the 'hoarding' surrounding it and far too large for the space. Can our councillor James McAsh do anything to prevent a repetition next year?

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by goldilocks 28 November, 2019 11:31

when I first saw this I thought it might be an overreaction to a 'few Christmas trees being sold in the corner of the green'. I walked past today and now totally understand the issue. Almost half the green is fenced off with opaque barriers and huge advertising for Amigos trees. Its not a nice festive scene, its a huge commercial operation being run out of what is supposed to be public open space.

If posting photos on here wasn't such a pain I would do - but definitely worth a look in considering whether this is appropriate.

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by Lynne 28 November, 2019 11:35

I agree with nxjen and goldilocks. I assumed it was for some sort of community Christmas entertainment, not a commercial venture. Far too big.

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by AlexanderG 28 November, 2019 12:56

I take it the Clock House won't be doing Christmas trees this year given all the Thames Water works on Barry Road?

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by Jules-and-Boo 28 November, 2019 13:35

What is wrong with someone trying to make money out of Christmas - taht's exactly what it's all about

If you feel very strongly about buying locally, then please also remember to support local shops instead of teh big supermarkets.


Same principle.

If fact, just remember - the shopper owns the market.

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by nxjen 28 November, 2019 13:52

The problem is that someone is trying to make money out of Christmas on public amenity land which will be unusable by the general public now until after Christmas. Goose Green was purchased for the enjoyment of the general public.

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by Jules-and-Boo 28 November, 2019 14:02

you can still use the park, although I would hope it's not there again next year.

I will buy my tree from the local sellers I always get them from.
And I hope many people in our community remember to support our community as well



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messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by siousxiesue 28 November, 2019 21:07

Cora Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I don't have a problem with a 'pop-up', most of
> them are, excluding Penguin's good point above,
> but I do have a problem with a beautiful community
> park being taken over for commercial use in the
> run up to Christmas...it's just far too big...a
> corner of Dulwich Park would be more
> appropriate....horrible for the residents looking
> out onto and the dog walkers...and within metres
> of the Church..
>
> I am assuming it is there until Christmas but
> maybe I've got that wrong...maybe it's just for
> the Christmas Cracker...ironic when I thought that
> was to boost local businesses?
>
> Anyone have an email address of who to contact at
> the council.....

I rather think it might be Rebecca.lury@southwark.gov.uk

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by first mate 28 November, 2019 21:27

What we need to know is exactly how much money the Council will make from the enterprise this year and where that money will go - not to fund more nursery school type murals it is hoped.

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellersattachment
Posted by MattyK 29 November, 2019 20:48

To contribute to the above discussion points without too much repetition...

The Christmas tree selling enclosure on Goose Green is an eyesore, day and night.
It is a commercial operation on a green that most consider for community use and enjoyment.
Most people feel excluded from having their considerations being taken account off.
It is an external operation that takes business away from traditional local sellers.
It's business hours are supposedly eight to eight but presumably preparation and closure extend these hours.

Attached image shows light pollution at 20:39 on Friday evening

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messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by MattyK 29 November, 2019 20:49

Another image of light pollution taken from our front door.

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by christine56 29 November, 2019 21:54

Yes yet again Southwark Council have sold local traders down the river
With this eyesore and not only digging up the park and take my most of it
There trees are more expensive than our local traders does any one know why
There in our small park why not Peckham rye

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by christine56 29 November, 2019 22:02

Feel sorry for people who live round the park.
But if nobody buys there trees maybe they wonít come back
Next year

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by worldwiser 29 November, 2019 23:15

Don't think it's fair to have a go at the operator. If they've come to an agreement with the council, it's the council who should have to answer for it. Does seem quite without precedent though and I am no more keen on it than any of you. There are so many places in the area already to get trees, I'm stunned Tree Amigos thought there'd be room in the market for such a large operation.

I'd love to know what the financial arrangements are but I imagine they'll hide behind 'commercial sensitivity.'

But I definitely think Southwark need to explain themselves. I don't want to see commercial activity on the green again save for the Dulwich Festival and similar.

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by ed_pete 30 November, 2019 10:52

Went to Morrisons in Peckham this morning. They have sizeable Christmas trees for £15.

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by tiddles 30 November, 2019 12:58

once again a mention for the xmas tree sellers at the plough that donate to St Christophers Hospice.

I think we should boycott Tree Amigos personally plus have emailed the southwark email address with a request for an idea of the amount southwark are receiving for the loss of a public space.

messageRe: Support our own East Dulwich tree sellers
Posted by christine56 30 November, 2019 14:57

Totally agree with that

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