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messageBest Chinese restaurant?
Posted by apbremer 27 November, 2019 12:04

Recommendations,please.

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by Spartacus 27 November, 2019 12:09

Radius ?
If local then not much choice



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messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by KidKruger 27 November, 2019 13:00

Silk Road Camberwell, though from a different region in China than other restaurants.

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by Beulah 27 November, 2019 13:05

+1 to Silk Road (Uighar restaurant I think) and there's also Wuli Wuli further along towards Camberwell Green which do some OK Szechuan (proper spicy) food
There's also an OK dim sum place on Old Kent Road called Hong Kong City

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by carlafindle 27 November, 2019 13:06

Silk Road

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by SpringTime 27 November, 2019 13:24

Wuli Wuli and Silk Road - probably Silk Road is the best around here. Gets busy in the evening. Great food.

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by seenbeen 27 November, 2019 13:26

I've given up around here- the last time I had my favourite- Spare ribs- they tasted like they had been dipped in bog cleaner. Waggamamas for me everytime

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by mimifantasia87 27 November, 2019 14:51

the one on the end of hindmans road - me and my brother go every friday! never lets us down smiling smiley

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by fishbiscuits 27 November, 2019 15:25

Yeah Silk road for Xinjiang style food. (not sure if it's Uyghur-specific or not, as they do have pork on the menu, but it seems geographically correct).

Wulli Wulli is OK, the Szechuan section is small but it's not bad at all. The rest of the Anglo-Cantonese type menu is fine, for that type of food.

Hong Kong City dim sum is not bad at all, if you've ever had dim sum in Chinatown then it is basically the same thing. I think in the evening they do fixed-priced all-you-can-eat menus, but I've never tried it... it might be fine, I have no idea.. lots of onions, one imagines.

Wagamama is not really Chinese... it's more sort of Japanese-ish with a handful of pan-Asian type dishes. I don't even think they have any branches in south London. FWIW I think it's nothing special, but it is consistent... if you find yourself in a shopping mall or a random high street, it's a pretty safe bet. They deserve credit for bringing katsu curry to the masses, although it should really be pork...

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by Beulah 27 November, 2019 15:59

^I don't like Wagamama either

Dragon Castle on top end of Walworth Road was also ok for Dim Sum although haven't been there for ages.

Are there many great Chinese places though outside of central London? IME they all tend to be generically bland and aimed at British palates.
Some good vietnamese places here and there though

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by KidKruger 27 November, 2019 16:05

Silk Road: I think the guys running the place are Han Chinese, not Uighers. Though the Xinjiang province is where the Uighers mainly are.



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messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by Beulah 27 November, 2019 16:07

I stand corrected
It's very nice either way
In fact that street has some other real gems: FM Mangal; the cheapo Shawarma wrap place; and the amazing Nandine.

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by RyeRambler 27 November, 2019 16:50

Don't overlook 148 on Lordship Lane. Ive only been twice but thought the food was excellent and good value. In town i think Phoenix Palace baker street has the best food. Hakkasan also has good food but place is a bit wanky

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by Sue 27 November, 2019 22:17

RyeRambler Wrote:
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> Don't overlook 148 on Lordship Lane. Ive only been
> twice but thought the food was excellent and good
> value. In town i think Phoenix Palace baker street
> has the best food. Hakkasan also has good food but
> place is a bit wanky


Where is 148 on Lordship Lane?

Wuli Wuli is OK.

Not keen on Wagamama (though as said above it isn't Chinese). I think it's gone way downhill since its early days ( but I haven't been there for years, so maybe it has gone uphill again!

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by DulwichFox 27 November, 2019 22:29

148 Chinese is the old Mr liu restaurant.

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by Sue 28 November, 2019 00:24

Oh ok thanks.

Shan't be going there then sad smiley

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by Seabag 28 November, 2019 08:56

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> 148 Chinese is the old Mr liu restaurant.

I’ve been a few times. There’s some fresh veg dishes done well here. I like the crispy seafood noodles.

It’s run by a guy who used to work in Won Kei in China Town and the food is quite similar.

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by DulwichFox 28 November, 2019 09:49

148 Chinese
148 Lordship Ln, London SE22 8HB
Hours: 
Thursday             5:30–10:30pm
Friday	             5:30–11pm
Saturday  12–2:30pm, 5:30–11pm
Sunday	  12–2:30pm, 5:30–10pm
Monday	  Closed
Tuesday	             5:30–10:30pm
Wednesday            5:30–10:30pm

Phone: 020 8693 8266

I used to use Mr Liu (which stayed open late) because of its proximity to my house.
Food would still be hot when I got home. They were really friendly.

148 Chinese closes early. 10.30 on week days.
You need to get there earlier to place any order for Take Away

Too early if you have been to the Pub and want a late Chinese meal.

Eta:
Did try it once. The food was poor. not as good as Mr Liu was previously.



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messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by Satellite 28 November, 2019 14:25

"work in Won Kei in China Town and the food is quite similar."

Cheap and full of MSG then?

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by Seabag 28 November, 2019 16:23

Satellite Wrote:
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> "work in Won Kei in China Town and the food is
> quite similar."
>
> Cheap and full of MSG then?


Never had an msg issue with either. That’s a bit of a perpetual myth around such food. I’m not saying it’s never used, but “full of” along with “cheap” has a certain dismissive ring to it, no?

The WonKei reference is more towards a Hong Kong style of Chinese restaurant.

And like any restaurant, if you don’t want a certain ingredient, like MSG, just tell them. But I like 148, they try hard and make some nice dishes. Their Char Sui is home made on the premises.

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by fishbiscuits 28 November, 2019 20:21

Beulah Wrote:
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> Dragon Castle on top end of Walworth Road was also
> ok for Dim Sum although haven't been there for
> ages

Yeah. I've not been for ages either... TBH mainly because we find Hong Kong City easier to get to. But it used to be quite good. I believe they actually had a dim sum chef making many of the items himself (usually dim sum is bought in), but not sure if it's still the case or not.

If you want dim sum that's a bit fancy... A Wong in Victoria is quite something..

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by Satellite 29 November, 2019 10:06

Seabag Wrote:
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> Satellite Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "work in Won Kei in China Town and the food is
> > quite similar."
> >
> > Cheap and full of MSG then?
>
>
> Never had an msg issue with either. That’s a bit
> of a perpetual myth around such food. I’m not
> saying it’s never used, but “full of” along with
> “cheap” has a certain dismissive ring to it, no?
>
> The WonKei reference is more towards a Hong Kong
> style of Chinese restaurant.
>
> And like any restaurant, if you don’t want a
> certain ingredient, like MSG, just tell them. But
> I like 148, they try hard and make some nice
> dishes. Their Char Sui is home made on the
> premises.


I was referring to the restaurant in chinatown which was known for rude staff and huge plates of food, see below

[www.standard.co.uk]

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by Seabag 29 November, 2019 12:45

Satellite Wrote:
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> Seabag Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Satellite Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > "work in Won Kei in China Town and the food
> is
> > > quite similar."
> > >
> > > Cheap and full of MSG then?
> >
> >
> > Never had an msg issue with either. That’s a
> bit
> > of a perpetual myth around such food. I’m not
> > saying it’s never used, but “full of” along
> with
> > “cheap” has a certain dismissive ring to it,
> no?
> >
> > The WonKei reference is more towards a Hong
> Kong
> > style of Chinese restaurant.
> >
> > And like any restaurant, if you don’t want a
> > certain ingredient, like MSG, just tell them.
> But
> > I like 148, they try hard and make some nice
> > dishes. Their Char Sui is home made on the
> > premises.
>
>
> I was referring to the restaurant in chinatown
> which was known for rude staff and huge plates of
> food, see below
>
> [www.standard.co.uk]
> ude-awakening-at-wong-kei-7431958.html

So what’s your point?

That article was from 2001, it mentions the changes, but little else and nothing about MSG in the article. I’m wondering if you’ve ever eaten there?

Or is this a place that you’ve just heard about, and assumed it was poor quality, because it’s ‘cheap’ and therefore it’s assumed to be ‘full of MSG’

Lazy conformation bias is a dangerous thing.

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by rahrahrah 29 November, 2019 13:19

There is nothing wrong with MSG

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by Seabag 29 November, 2019 13:29

rahrahrah Wrote:
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> There is nothing wrong with MSG

I agree per se, but it’s bandied around dismissively, often as a cultural bias.



[www.google.co.uk]

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by fishbiscuits 29 November, 2019 13:43

Yeah MSG is widely used, and in many types of Chinese cooking, there's a good case for calling it an authentic ingredient - traditional, even. Most Chinese places use it, not just cheap ones.

Some people think it causes headaches or can trigger asthma, but it's all anecdotal. I'm certainly not convinced.

Wong Kei? Bog standard, but probably hits the spot on a boozy night out. Same applies to 90% of the Chinatown restaurants.

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by BigED 29 November, 2019 17:47

If you can travel further afield you will get better food...

Water House, Albion St, Rotherhithe (not as good as it used to be, but decent Hunanese menu)
Sichuan Restaurant, Busby's Way, North Greenwich (next to Odeon cinema)
Sichuan Grand, Gerry Raffles Square, Stratford (opposite Theatre Royal)
Master Wei Xi'An, Cosmo Place, Bloombsbury (nr Russell Sq) - Shaanxi cuisine, lots of biang biang noodle dishes

I've had mixed experiences of Wuli Wuli - very good and a bit rubbish, for the same dishes on different occasions.
The only time i went to Silk Road, their only seafood option wasn't available and the non-meat dishes amounted to noodles, with a few fried onions. As I was there with a non-meat eater it didn't rate highly. My meat dishes were forgettable. And Dragon Castle near Elephant was mainly memorable for a Chinese customer racing to the door and vomiting copiously in the entrance. No idea if that was the food but that memory and the mediocre plates we ordered didn't warrant a second trip.

One other place that is good is KaoSarn, Brixton Lane (in Brixton Market) - good and cheap Thai food. Excellent green papaya salad.

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by fishbiscuits 29 November, 2019 20:20

Yes, Wuli is definitely a little inconsistent, I think that's fair.

I really think you were unlucky at Silk Rd, I have had some nice meals there.

Master Wei looks good! ever tried Shu Castle on Old Kent Rd? I always pass it... never tried it...

Back on more familiar Cantonese ground... Goldmine in Bayswater for the best roast duck...

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by doogsey 29 November, 2019 20:40

+1 for Silk Road

-1 for Wuli Wuli - used to like going there until my partner got food poisoning

messageRe: Best Chinese restaurant?
Posted by camberwell70 29 November, 2019 21:15

Xian, Orpington High Street

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