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messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by mako April 14, 04:41PM

Take your average 105 year old walking down Lordship Lane with his 15 dogs he doesnt want to take to the park. He's not going to walk in a straight line. He's going to get near the edge of the pavement. He could breathe in the selfish cyclists virus, die, and his dogs might chase the cyclist. The cyclist hasnt got a helmet on cracks his head open and has to go to A and E using up NHS resource.
Just stay indoors if you are capable. Being bored isnt the same as incapable.

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by Occamsracer April 14, 04:50PM

How wide do you think cars are?

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by mako April 14, 05:05PM

Typical dulwich range rover probably about 2m

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by Occamsracer April 14, 05:17PM

That's erring on the side of caution but add to that the recommended 1.75m to take you out of the door zone and that puts you at least 3.75m from the edge of the kerb.

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by DuncanW April 14, 06:14PM

Mako - are you a parody account?

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by mako April 14, 06:21PM

No why do you ask?

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by mako April 14, 06:23PM

Occamsracer Wrote:
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> That's erring on the side of caution but add to
> that the recommended 1.75m to take you out of the
> door zone and that puts you at least 3.75m from
> the edge of the kerb.

Occamsracer, how wide do you think the road is

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by NewWave April 14, 06:31PM

My partner is a key worker.
In order to get to and from work (he has been doing 11hour plus days during this pandemic)he brought a bike and cycles to his place of work I really dont understand why people are being anti cyclists as long as they dont cycle on the pavement and wear the appropriate safety gear.
The only cyclists I dont approve of are the ones (sometimes whole families) who insist on cycling on the pavement or the ones who dont wear helmets mainly because should they come a cropper they are putting more strain on our overstretched NHS and A&E depts.
To be honest I wish I was able to ride a bike because its getting pretty damn boring taking my daily exercise on foot back and forth to Dulwich park or Peckham Rye.

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by mako April 14, 06:35PM

Dont know how much of the thread you have read but there has been universal support for the people who need to cycle for work reasons to be able to

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by Occamsracer April 14, 06:36PM

Average parking spot in the UK, 2.4m, width of a London bus, 2.52m, so I'd say just shy of five metres from the curb to the centre line.

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by first mate April 14, 07:04PM

NewWave Wrote:
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> My partner is a key worker.
> In order to get to and from work (he has been
> doing 11hour plus days during this pandemic)he
> brought a bike and cycles to his place of work I
> really dont understand why people are being anti
> cyclists as long as they dont cycle on the
> pavement and wear the appropriate safety gear.
> The only cyclists I dont approve of are the ones
> (sometimes whole families) who insist on cycling
> on the pavement or the ones who dont wear helmets
> mainly because should they come a cropper they are
> putting more strain on our overstretched NHS and
> A&E depts.
> To be honest I wish I was able to ride a bike
> because its getting pretty damn boring taking my
> daily exercise on foot back and forth to Dulwich
> park or Peckham Rye.

Completely support your partner cycling to work along with any key worker, it totally makes sense. Additionally, short cycle rides for exercise, observing social distancing. We all need to try to keep as much pressure off the NHS as possible. We can all agree on that.

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by seenbeen April 17, 02:19PM

jimlad48 Wrote:
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> And please don't ride on the pavements or go
> through red lights on pedestrian crossings - I
> know its scary at times, but please remember those
> of us on foot too!

2 days in a row now I have encountered grown adults on bikes on the pavements.....there is hardly any traffic on the road so there is no excuse

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by malumbu April 17, 06:31PM

I was shocked on my daily exercise to see a very dangerous cyclist. He was on this big contraption with a massive wheel at the front and a diddy one at the back. Worse still he wasn't wearing a helmet, rather he was dressed as if it was 100 years ago. Can you imagine the harm he would come to if he fell? I meant to have a go at him about the risks he was taking, but instead gave him a smile and a cheery wave. It was close to Beckenham so best avoid this area. But on the plus point he was so high up it would be easy to social distance.

(note, yes I did see a guy on a penny farthing, breaches, tweed jacket and cap)

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by exdulwicher April 18, 11:30AM

malumbu Wrote:
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> (note, yes I did see a guy on a penny farthing,
> breaches, tweed jacket and cap)

Jacob Rees-Mogg out for a shopping trip? winking smiley

I know who you mean, I've seen him before and he's a regular at Herne Hill velodrome every time they have a vintage cycling fayre or penny farthing race.

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by malumbu April 18, 11:33AM

May have been R-M but as he was proud to announce that he had never changed any of his kids' nappies doubt if he would do the shopping. Hooray, back to the good old days of lampooning politicians.

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by Sally Eva May 15, 11:52AM

Sorry to resurrect this old thread but there was a discussion on here about how airborne CV was. Here is some more info

[www.scientificamerican.com]

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by first mate May 15, 06:39PM

Thanks for that. Interesting. Think the assertion, I am not across the evidence base, that it can also enter through the eyes is worrying.

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by bels123 May 18, 11:41AM

Were really enjoying quieter roads and have been able to cycle as a family for the first time. Covered quite some ground with the decent infrastructure closer to London.

Can anyone recommend a good cycle route app - Google maps took us onto main roads this weekend 😬

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by exdulwicher May 18, 12:01PM

bels123 Wrote:
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> Can anyone recommend a good cycle route app -
> Google maps took us onto main roads this weekend
> 😬

They all have their pros and cons. Are you just using it off a mobile phone or do you have a cycle GPS device? You can persuade Google to do a cycle option but it's not great.

Strava is very popular - fitness tracking app that will work on mobile phones or on GPS devices, the basic version is free with a whole load of options that you can pay an annual subscription for. It will do routes but it uses an algorithm to steer you towards popular routes. So if you ask to go to SW London, it WILL send you into and around Richmond Park as that's the most popular cycling area locally.

Komoot is another popular one, again phone or GPS. A friend uses that by default, I never really got on with it and have very limited experience.

And the final one is Santander Cycles app. It's really designed for getting you to and from docking stations so less useful in Dulwich where there aren't any but if you ask it to plan a route up in town, it gives you 3 options, Fast, Mixed and Leisure. Fast is predominantly the most direct way, Mixed will use cycle paths if there's any there and Leisure will specifically direct you to towpaths, cycle lanes, parks etc. As I say though, not much good around Dulwich but excellent up in town.

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by first mate May 18, 12:30PM

My slight concern is that while people are cycling mostly for leisure it can be pleasant, however I have had two near misses in the last few days with lycra clad cyclists on a speed mission, happily overtaking without any warning whatsoever, one when I was hand signalling to make a right hand turn.

I do wonder how cycling is going to feel once people are using it to get to work in greater numbers? I recall one very active pro cycling person on this forum insisting mobility scooters should not use cycle lanes as it would slow down the preferred 20mph average speed that cycle commuters like him were keen to maintain.

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by northernmonkey May 19, 09:54PM

I think that cycling has the capacity to feel very different from how it does now - which will mean a period of adjustment for many. For the few who are used to cycling fast (which is sort of predetermined by the road conditions until now) then they will potentially find it a different experience, whereas with greater numbers perhaps it could just be a form of transport rather than an extreme sport.

We cycled to central London and all around the city at the weekend. It was really easy going. We wore normal clothes - if we'd have stopped somewhere (obviously didn't) we wouldn't have needed to shower before doing something else!

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by first mate May 20, 07:14AM

Yes, you are quite right. If people start to cycle in numbers, those wishing to cycle very fast will be unable to.

The other factor is potholes and the state of the roads. I know of at least two people who have sustained serious bone breaks after coming off their bike because of potholes.

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by Sally Eva May 20, 08:27AM

bels123 Wrote:
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> Were really enjoying quieter roads and have been
> able to cycle as a family for the first time.
> Covered quite some ground with the decent
> infrastructure closer to London.
>
> Can anyone recommend a good cycle route app -
> Google maps took us onto main roads this weekend
> 😬

Google maps is so hopeless it's quite funny.

Try cycle.travel. I find it easier to use than cyclestreets [www.cyclestreets.net] or Citymapper [citymapper.com] (I haven't used this one).

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by louisemurray May 20, 08:56AM

I recommend Cyclemaps app - been using it for years. You can set it to show existing cycle paths, and choose fast or quiet routes, amongst many other options.

If you are only looking for easy cycle routes try the Routes on [www.letsride.co.uk] huge variety.

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by first mate May 20, 09:49AM

Is it possible to get turn by turn narration on Cyclemaps? I have tried and cant.

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by louisemurray May 20, 11:40AM

Yes you can, in settings you have to select voice navigation

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by malumbu May 20, 11:53AM

Been on couple of rides into Surrey. Never in many decades of cycling seen such fast traffic. Had an argument with a guy in big car who cut me up near Cator Park. "I'm a cyclist, you should stick to the cycle path" he says. You are a cyclist, you should be ashamed I should have said. Makes it worse when someone tries to justify from their own position. If I drive and I see a cyclist maybe not in the right position I will stay back.

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by first mate May 20, 01:43PM

louisemurray Wrote:
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> Yes you can, in settings you have to select voice
> navigation

Thanks Louise, it just wont work for me. Perhaps a phone or phone software issue. Incredibly annoying though as I am forced to use Google which is not cycle route friendly.

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by louisemurray May 20, 02:11PM

Google is positively dangerous!

messageRe: East Dulwich: new cyclists
Posted by louisemurray May 20, 02:12PM

Have you tried contacting the people behind Cyclemaps? they are UK based and very responsive.

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