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messageMake Lordship lane one way
Posted by Abe_froeman May 15, 06:12PM

From Melbourne Grove in the south to East Dulwich Grove in the North.

One lane for south bound traffic only on Lordship Lane then make Melbourne Grove one way going the other way.

This would allow Lordship lane to be handed over to very wide footpaths allowing the cafes pubs shops and restaurants much more space on thir pavements. You could even put a bike lane in if you had to appease the lycra lobby.

It would also solve the problem of rat running in Melbourne Grove and you could sort out the junction at East Dulwich grove properly for once and for all.

messageRe: Make Lordship lane one way
Posted by Sally Eva May 15, 06:17PM

what you need is this consultation/request for comment on protecting pedestrians during CV.

[www.southwark.gov.uk]

It covers

Pros and cons of lockdown from public health POV.

"The streets are now quieter and safer with more people choosing to walk and cycle and greater use of local shops and parks. People are more aware of pollution; their health and quality of life issues, and the lockdown seems to have encouraged a new spirit of localism."
but
"there has been an increase in people driving their cars at excessive speeds. This is dangerous for everyone and deters people from walking and cycling. People are also concerned about using public transport for fear of catching COVID-19.
Therefore, as travel restrictions are lifted, we're likely to see more people choosing to drive rather than use the train or bus than before the lockdown. This will greatly increase air pollution (motor vehicles are responsible for more than half of the air pollution in London) which could further impact those recovering from COVID-19."

Comments and suggestions here
[www.southwark.gov.uk]

messageRe: Make Lordship lane one way
Posted by doogsey May 15, 06:47PM

The junction at Melbourne Grove and East Dulwich Grove is already a bit sketchy, wouldn't this make it 10 times worse?

It'd also make the Lordship Lane and East Dulwich Grove junction worse for pedestrians, how would that be sorted out once and for all? Keep in mind East Dulwich Grove is half the width of Lordship Lane already, and has less space on the pavements, so I don't see how sending more traffic down it will help anything.

messageRe: Make Lordship lane one way
Posted by creditwheredue May 16, 12:01AM

Buses and trucks going down residential Melbourne Grove, really?

messageRe: Make Lordship lane one way
Posted by Zig-Zag May 16, 01:28AM

I know that Melbourne does get used as a rat run but that surely involves fewer cars than sending every car wishing to go north, down there. I think if I lived there I'd be very unhappy with your suggestion although I can see the benefit for Lordship Lane, and it would also enable cars to drive even faster down Melbourne if it was one way.

messageRe: Make Lordship lane one way
Posted by KidKruger May 16, 10:51AM

If Melbourne was one way too, possibly could work, problem would be the increased traffic down Melbourne trying to cross east Dulwich grove and the tailbacks that may cause.

messageRe: Make Lordship lane one way
Posted by Penguin68 May 16, 11:50AM

I'm sorry, but that's a completely mad suggestion, not least because of the level of inconvenience to those living in Melbourne Grove, and any adjacent streets (to it a LL), of which there are very many. Far from 'solving the problem of rat running' you would be diverting 100% of the traffic going one way down Melbourne. So far from being a 'rush hour' rat run it would become a 24 hour rat run.

It is quite likely that traffic flows will be different in a post Covid 'normal' - making any plans or bold moves before that makes no sense at all. It will simply be a waste of money, time and effort. See what develops and stabilises, and plan round that.

messageRe: Make Lordship lane one way
Posted by Spartacus May 16, 12:01PM

Also it would cause issues for buses and bus users, especially the elderly and disabled

Good to see you are thinking out of the box, but leave wacky ideas that will increase traffic flows to the council staff who specialise in stupid ideas IMHO

messageRe: Make Lordship lane one way
Posted by Nigello May 16, 12:12PM

Not workable but good to get people thinking of more feasible suggestions.

messageRe: Make Lordship lane one way
Posted by AylwardS May 16, 03:37PM

Sally Eva thanks for pointing out the request for comments.

Something needs to happen to make more space available to pedestrians / cyclists but sending traffic down Melbourne Grove doesnt seem to me the answer.

How would buses / ambulances be affected? Not to mention those who live along there. The road wasnt designed to carry that amount of traffic - not sure any of the roads were really.

Anyone know what the measures taken by the Council on Lordship Lane are - it was so busy and there was nowhere to social distance when passing the queues that Ive not been since. Id like to support local businesses if thats changed.

messageRe: Make Lordship lane one way
Posted by Stradello May 16, 09:16PM

Remove parked cars from one side of lordship lane and expand the pavement. we have too much public space devoted to cars. shops/restaurants/bars can spill out onto some of that space. It would be a much nicer environment.

messageRe: Make Lordship lane one way
Posted by KidKruger May 16, 09:26PM

good idea.

Stradello Wrote:
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> Remove parked cars from one side of lordship lane
> and expand the pavement. we have too much public
> space devoted to cars. shops/restaurants/bars can
> spill out onto some of that space. It would be a
> much nicer environment.

messageRe: Make Lordship lane one way
Posted by northernmonkey May 18, 12:26PM

Removing parking along at least one side of Lordship lane would be a great idea - allow the road to be used for shopping rather than parking.

messageRe: Make Lordship lane one way
Posted by Dulwich Dyson May 18, 12:51PM

Much better to have single direction pavements with arrow markings. Up one side and down the other. Safest is for the direction to be face on to approaching traffic.

messageRe: Make Lordship lane one way
Posted by edcam May 18, 09:32PM

No.

messageRe: Make Lordship lane one way
Posted by heartblock May 21, 04:21PM

Bike lanes on LL and EDG and a one way car system.... it would work


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