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Make Lordship lane one way


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From Melbourne Grove in the south to East Dulwich Grove in the North.


One lane for south bound traffic only on Lordship Lane then make Melbourne Grove one way going the other way.


This would allow Lordship lane to be handed over to very wide footpaths allowing the cafes pubs shops and restaurants much more space on thir pavements. You could even put a bike lane in if you had to appease the lycra lobby.


It would also solve the problem of rat running in Melbourne Grove and you could sort out the junction at East Dulwich grove properly for once and for all.

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what you need is this consultation/request for comment on protecting pedestrians during CV.


https://www.southwark.gov.uk/health-and-wellbeing/public-health/for-the-public/coronavirus/impact-on-council-services/coronavirus-help-us-combat-covid-19-by-suggesting-healthier-streets?utm_content=&utm_medium=email&utm_name=&utm_source=govdelivery&utm_term=


It covers


Pros and cons of lockdown from public health POV.


"The streets are now quieter and safer with more people choosing to walk and cycle and greater use of local shops and parks. People are more aware of pollution; their health and quality of life issues, and the lockdown seems to have encouraged a new spirit of localism."

but

"there has been an increase in people driving their cars at excessive speeds. This is dangerous for everyone and deters people from walking and cycling. People are also concerned about using public transport for fear of catching COVID-19.

Therefore, as travel restrictions are lifted, we're likely to see more people choosing to drive rather than use the train or bus than before the lockdown. This will greatly increase air pollution (motor vehicles are responsible for more than half of the air pollution in London) which could further impact those recovering from COVID-19."


Comments and suggestions here

https://www.southwark.gov.uk/health-and-wellbeing/public-health/for-the-public/coronavirus/impact-on-council-services/coronavirus-help-us-combat-covid-19-by-suggesting-healthier-streets?utm_content=&utm_medium=email&utm_name=&utm_source=govdelivery&utm_term=

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The junction at Melbourne Grove and East Dulwich Grove is already a bit sketchy, wouldn't this make it 10 times worse?


It'd also make the Lordship Lane and East Dulwich Grove junction worse for pedestrians, how would that be sorted out once and for all? Keep in mind East Dulwich Grove is half the width of Lordship Lane already, and has less space on the pavements, so I don't see how sending more traffic down it will help anything.

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I know that Melbourne does get used as a rat run but that surely involves fewer cars than sending every car wishing to go north, down there. I think if I lived there I'd be very unhappy with your suggestion although I can see the benefit for Lordship Lane, and it would also enable cars to drive even faster down Melbourne if it was one way.
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I'm sorry, but that's a completely mad suggestion, not least because of the level of inconvenience to those living in Melbourne Grove, and any adjacent streets (to it a LL), of which there are very many. Far from 'solving the problem of rat running' you would be diverting 100% of the traffic going one way down Melbourne. So far from being a 'rush hour' rat run it would become a 24 hour rat run.


It is quite likely that traffic flows will be different in a post Covid 'normal' - making any plans or bold moves before that makes no sense at all. It will simply be a waste of money, time and effort. See what develops and stabilises, and plan round that.

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Also it would cause issues for buses and bus users, especially the elderly and disabled


Good to see you are thinking out of the box, but leave wacky ideas that will increase traffic flows to the council staff who specialise in stupid ideas IMHO

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Sally Eva thanks for pointing out the request for comments.


Something needs to happen to make more space available to pedestrians / cyclists but sending traffic down Melbourne Grove doesn?t seem to me the answer.


How would buses / ambulances be affected? Not to mention those who live along there. The road wasn?t designed to carry that amount of traffic - not sure any of the roads were really.


Anyone know what the measures taken by the Council on Lordship Lane are - it was so busy and there was nowhere to social distance when passing the queues that I?ve not been since. I?d like to support local businesses if that?s changed.

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Remove parked cars from one side of lordship lane and expand the pavement. we have too much public space devoted to cars. shops/restaurants/bars can spill out onto some of that space. It would be a much nicer environment.
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good idea.


Stradello Wrote:

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> Remove parked cars from one side of lordship lane

> and expand the pavement. we have too much public

> space devoted to cars. shops/restaurants/bars can

> spill out onto some of that space. It would be a

> much nicer environment.

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