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messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car park
Posted by Cyclemonkey August 27, 03:11PM

There is a pretty large Spoons less than four bus stops up the hill in Forest Hill though.

messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car park
Posted by Siduhe August 27, 03:17PM

The Dulwich Estate has been clear that its preference is to redevelop the site for housing. I understand from our local councillors that Tesco wanted to put a Tesco Metro there, and MacDonalds wanted it for a drive through site (this was a while back) both of which approaches were rebuffed. The debate appears to be around whether it gets redeveloped as high-end housing (the Estate's preference) or whether it is more of a mixed-use development with social housing and/or community amenities and/or a senior living facility (Southwark's preference). There's a good bit of background here:

[www.dulwichsociety.com]

messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car park
Posted by Shrieker August 27, 03:20PM

True, but then Lordship Lane has 5 or 6 hugely overpriced, swanky food led pubs practically beside each other. The kind of pubs where people sit and nurse 1 drink (sometimes alcohol free) and talk about their next skiing holiday or business trip to Dubai. We need more affordable pubs were the common man can sit around, supping multiple well priced pints, and talk about the football and racing. Like all pubs used to be before everywhere was gentrified.

messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car park
Posted by JohnL August 27, 04:04PM

Isn't that the Castle ?

messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car park
Posted by BrandNewGuy August 27, 04:12PM

Shrieker Wrote:
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> True, but then Lordship Lane has 5 or 6 hugely
> overpriced, swanky food led pubs practically
> beside each other. The kind of pubs where people
> sit and nurse 1 drink (sometimes alcohol free) and
> talk about their next skiing holiday or business
> trip to Dubai. We need more affordable pubs were
> the common man can sit around, supping multiple
> well priced pints, and talk about the football and
> racing. Like all pubs used to be before everywhere
> was gentrified.

0/10

messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car park
Posted by Dogkennelhillbilly September 05, 11:56AM

I've signed the petition and will be writing to councillors, MP, and the Estate. It is an outrage that the deadbeat pubco has allowed the pub to lie vacant and become an eyesore.

messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car park
Posted by MinaBallerina90 September 05, 12:23PM

Thank you for this - its really helpful. I live very close to the site and it is such an eyesore.

messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car park
Posted by Sue September 12, 11:36PM

Place was packed this afternoon.

No social distancing in evidence.

messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car park
Posted by mary123 September 15, 07:04AM

The Skaters have made creative use of the empty car park showing off their skills and having fun,
If MacDonald's or another drive through was agreed, it would be a nightmare to what is already a busy road and junction


Siduhe Wrote:
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> The Dulwich Estate has been clear that its
> preference is to redevelop the site for housing.
> I understand from our local councillors that Tesco
> wanted to put a Tesco Metro there, and MacDonalds
> wanted it for a drive through site (this was a
> while back) both of which approaches were
> rebuffed. The debate appears to be around whether
> it gets redeveloped as high-end housing (the
> Estate's preference) or whether it is more of a
> mixed-use development with social housing and/or
> community amenities and/or a senior living
> facility (Southwark's preference). There's a good
> bit of background here:
>
> [www.dulwichsociety.com]
> e-grove-tavern-saga-by-mike-foster

messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car parkattachment
Posted by olliejarman September 16, 06:59AM

Wow, what an unhelpful message. Thanks Sue

Had a lovely evening down there today and everyone was respectful and tidy. Inspiring to see young people (and old) making something of a dire situation.
I shot some photos which you can see on my instagram (Ollie_Jarman) and I will upload more as I take them.

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messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car park
Posted by Sue September 17, 10:57PM

olliejarman Wrote:
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> Wow, what an unhelpful message. Thanks Sue
>
> Had a lovely evening down there today and everyone
> was respectful and tidy. Inspiring to see young
> people (and old) making something of a dire
> situation.
> I shot some photos which you can see on my
> instagram (Ollie_Jarman) and I will upload more as
> I take them.


I think the skate park is great. As you will see from my previous post.

I signed the petition.

However it is not helpful in a pandemic to have a large group of mainly young unmasked people gathered together watching the skateboarders with no attempt at social distancing at all.

It isn't about being "respectful and tidy". It's about not passing on a virus.

messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car park
Posted by FallingDownMoment September 18, 03:46AM

Sue Wrote:
> However it is not helpful in a pandemic to have a
> large group of mainly young unmasked people
> gathered together watching the skateboarders with
> no attempt at social distancing at all.
>
> It isn't about being "respectful and tidy". It's
> about not passing on a virus.

I certainly agree that we all have a responsibility protect one another from Covid-19, Sue, and that young people often tend to feel invulnerable/immortal. However, there is now plenty of evidence that brief contact outside in fresh air very much limits the chance of passing on the virus.

I imagine most of the young people enjoying the skate park are currently being told by the government it's safe for them to return to stuffy classrooms, sixth form colleges or university courses/halls, or to go back to their minimum-wage, public-facing jobs. Mostly via public transport. With a shambles of a test and trace systems.

Are they really being that reckless in comparison? Seems there are so many other failings that you could direct your ire towards. If it came down to a choice of the two, I think I'd rather take my chances chatting in the skate park than picking up some asparagus in M&S or hopping on the 176 with the chin-warmer brigade.

messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car park
Posted by Dogkennelhillbilly September 18, 12:24PM

You're not wrong, Sue, that social distancing is a good thing at this time.

However, in terms of preventing COVID spread among the youth, I don't think standing around in the open air would be a bad thing for kids and the youth to be doing. If we chase them away from there they'll be down the pub, crammed into someone's bedroom, or on the bus/train to skate somewhere further afield - all of which is more risky.

messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car park
Posted by first mate September 18, 01:00PM

“Are they really being that reckless in comparison? Seems there are so many other failings that you could direct your ire towards. If it came down to a choice of the two, I think I'd rather take my chances chatting in the skate park than picking up some asparagus in M&S or hopping on the 176 with the chin-warmer brigade“.

What does chin-warmer brigade mean?

messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car park
Posted by Bic Basher September 18, 01:07PM

I live close to the skate park and have no issues with it at all.

messageRe: skateboarding at the Grove Pub car park
Posted by nivag September 18, 01:25PM

first mate Wrote:
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> “Are they really being that reckless in
> comparison? Seems there are so many other failings
> that you could direct your ire towards. If it came
> down to a choice of the two, I think I'd rather
> take my chances chatting in the skate park than
> picking up some asparagus in M&S or hopping on the
> 176 with the chin-warmer brigade“.
>
> What does chin-warmer brigade mean?

I'm guessing they are referring to the divs that wear the mask only to keep their chins warm and not over their mouth and nose.

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