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I think you're probably right and so that makes me wonder if the place has a shelf life.

Speaking from experience as another resident of one of the blocks adjacent to the skatepark: I am broadly supportive of it. I think it's given some kids a great place to hang out and I enjoy the yearly event they put on. Given the previous tenants of the car park were people living in caravans who used it as a fly tip, the skatepark is a vast improvement... But it did come into existence without planning permission, and it's incorrect to say that the noise isn't audible, Especially now they've installed larger wooden ramps, there is a lot of clacking noise of skateboard wheels on wood . And obviously a bit of excited shouting from to to time. Personally, it doesn't bother me, though I wear noise cancelling headphones for much of the working day - but different kinds of noise bother different people, and have seen more than one of my fellow residents shouting at them over the fence on various occasions. What I wonder about is whether there's any guarantee of its future after the site is finally sold, assuming this will happen after the Stonegate lease expires in 2025. I do want to see the pub demolished (or extensively renovated) , and something (frankly anything) put up in its place. But I wonder if the council would purchase the car park for the community and whether they could conduct an actual consultation of the surrounding residents to find out if people really do want it to remain or whether it could be moved to a more suitable site. I am just not sure there will be a happy ending for The Grove at the moment.

Ah yes another SE22 water leak. Not a week goes by without one!

And just like that they've all gone

Yep, chopper shining search lights all over the place.

Lots of shouting, dogs, and about a dozen police cars out the front right now (8:50pm)

Website and twitter just say "until further notice". I'd like to know too as I have some visitors coming to London who suddenly developed an interest after hearing about the attempted theft in the news! As they say, I suppose all publicity is good publicity...

Just down from Barcelona. Heard a huge smash and some shouting and then about a dozen sirens. Fire brigade are there at the moment, obviously causing some major disruption (road closed both ways), just hope the driver is okay. Second time in a week car has ended up on its roof in LL...

Something similar happened to me, a bank account with my name/address was opened and charges run up to the overdraft limit. Fairly sure it was via mail theft from my postbox. Police weren't interested, suggested I go to the bank who have their own investigation teams for this sort of thing. Fortunately the bank was fairly easy to deal with (although it did take some time to resolve).

I think I heard a bit of the spill out from this party passing by Grove Tavern. Sounded boisterous but lighthearted. No idea what went on further up the road.

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Also avoid walking along the edge of the pavement > with a phone held in the 'outside' hand - that's > making a drive by grab that much easier. If you > have to walk and talk, use a headphone and > microphone and keep your phone in your pocket. > Google maps (etc.) can talk directions if you're > using it as a walking sat nav. Another tip is to adopt a grip with your hand entirely around the back of the phone, including (importantly) wrapping the index finger over the top edge. Not only does it make the phone less visible to someone casually looking out for people holding them out, it also reduces the chances a thief can get the phone by snatching at the top, as the normal snatch action will pin your index finger to the phone and give you the means to pull back. Also make sure you have 'Find My iPhone' or 'Find my device' turned on - because although I wouldn't suggest chasing your phone across London, it allows you to remote wipe your data for peace of mind, and on many models prevents a thief activating a phone at all with a new SIM in it.

Bic Basher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The victim has been named. > > https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/11/east-dulwich-murder-victim-named-dennis-anderson-8520848/?ito=twitter Very sad, poor guy, and sad for his daughter. Reports certainly don't paint a picture of a person who was an instigator here. I guess we'll find out in time if there was any actual motive beyond a cigarette, what a terrible waste if so.

Charles Martel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Crime is not caused by areas, it is caused by > specific individuals, criminals who are as mobile > as the rest of us. Unless you believe that we > live in some sort of magically protected enclave, > we are as exposed as anywhere else to crime of > this type. A man was stabbed through the head in > Dulwich park in 2017 by someone who wanted the > price of a bottle of rum. Why do people persist > in deluding themselves? Nowhere in London is > safe. On the basis of your argument here, you can conclude no-where in the world is safe because your 'mobile criminals' can travel anywhere they want and commit crimes. Of course that's technically true, because anything can happen to anyone at any time. However, even a set of unrelated incidents produce a statistically emergent and generally predictable rate (or change of rate) over time for a particular area because people are, on average, fairly predictable in their behaviours and decision making. That's why a country has a generally consistent birthrate (that rises and falls gradually), or a road section has a fairly consistent accident rate. People's decisions are distributed on a bell curve and over thousands or millions of events, a pattern emerges. In the case of crime, decision-making is correlated to casual factors in the population such as access to mental health services, poverty level. You can therefore form a statistically significant conclusion about whether an area is 'more safe' or 'less safe' if you think about these factors. You can also consider how change in these underlying factors might affect the derived crime rate. So of course on an individual basis, you can never rule out a one-off anywhere you go, but you can still choose to manage your risk, and take steps collectively to mitigate the underlying causes.

Maybe the dead are rising in Camberwell Old Cemetery. Just remember, remove the head or destroy the brain.

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Entirely agree with RPC that speculations as to > causes and motives are not helpful when none of us > knows the story, the police have the suspect in > custody, let justice take its course. Fair enough, agreed on that point.