Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Tories are saying "he's on a final warning"


But in reality... there can't be long if they want to win next election.


If election is in 2024 there are 2 more years of Johnson with all that that entails - they surely don't want that


But if they do want someone else leading them by next election they have to make the change soon and embed WhoEver in good time


But even in doing that, that's the 4th leader of the ELECTED party we will have had in nearly as many years - can they honestly claim to rule the country until 2024?


(and that's before you get into the further realities of Brexit hitting, Scottish indie calls yada yada)


Whole thing looks shaky as to me

Tories are saying "he's on a final warning"


But in reality... there can't be long if they want to win next election.



Indeed, but it might even be too late for that, as a rather big, dark slow-moving Covid/Brexit cloud has appeared called rising living costs.


I think electorally they might already be screwed...

?Get your act together or it?s over, MPs warn Boris Johnson?


-Surely they realise that this is Johnson with his ?act together?


-And then you?ve got enabler?s like IDS projecting the blame on anyone other than the man of chaos himself. Hardly surprising it?s a sh*t show around number 10.


Sir Iain Duncan-Smith, the former party leader, said Johnson was having to defend other people?s mistakes. ?No prime minister or president can govern if they spend their whole time having to defend what others have got wrong and failed on,? he told the BBC. ?It is a mistake to have him bogged down in having to justify and defend things that are often unjustifiable.?


https://apple.news/AVIwQDV2jSlKlih9UBJFdOg

diable rouge Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Dan Hodges (Mail on Sunday opinion writer) hasn't

> heard of tactical voting...

>

> On the by-election. Disastrous result for Boris.

> But a pretty terrible result for Starmer as well.


Dan Hodges is weirdly obsessed with how badly Labour are doing. Presumably it?s down to him being the kid of a Labour MP, but even so he really needs to let it go.

> North Shropshire....the beginning of the end?

> The middle of the end? Or the end of the end?


By happy coincidence, it's the place where in 1987 dear leader married his first wife, Allegra Mostyn-Owen. Her family seat was at West Belton and they married in the local church.

A couple of points picked up in the by-election aftermath...


Postal votes which were cast before the Partygate revelations broke, were heavily in Lib Dems favour, suggesting they didn't play a significant role in people's thinking/voting.


Rather, NS is a strong rural/farming area, lots of unhappiness about Brexit being bad for UK farmers as witnessed in the detail of the recent Australia/NZ trade deals.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • In what way? Maybe it just felt more intelligent and considered coming directly after Question Time, which was a barely watchable bun fight.
    • Yes, all this. Totally Sephiroth. The electorate wants to see transformation overnight. That's not possible. But what is possible is leading with the right comms strategy, which isn't cutting through. As I've said before, messaging matters more now than policy, that's the only way to bring the electorate with you. And I worry that that's how Reform's going to get into power.  And the media LOVES Reform. 
    • “There was an excellent discussion on Newscast last night between the BBC Political Editor, the director of the IFS and the director of More In Common - all highly intelligent people with no party political agenda ” I would call this “generous”   Labour should never have made that tax promise because, as with - duh - Brexit, it’s pretending the real world doesn’t exist now. I blame Labour in no small part for this delusion. But the electorate need to cop on as well.  They think they can have everything they want without responsibilities, costs or attachments. The media encourage this  Labour do need to raise taxes. The country needs it.  Now, exactly how it’s done remains to be seen. But if people are just going to go around going “la la laffer curve. Liars! String em up! Vote someone else” then they just aren’t serious people reckoning with the problem yes Labour are more than a year into their term, but after 14 years of what the Tories  did? Whoever takes over, has a major problem 
    • Messaging, messaging, messaging. That's all it boils down to. There are only so many fiscal policies out there, and they're there for the taking, no matter which party you're in. I hate to say it, but Farage gets it right every time. Even when Reform reneges on fiscal policy, it does it with enough confidence and candidness that no one is wringing their hands. Instead, they're quietly admired for their pragmatism. Strangely, it's exactly the same as Labour has done, with its manifesto reverse on income tax, but it's going to bomb.  Blaming the Tories / Brexit / Covid / Putin ... none of it washes with the public anymore  - it wants to be sold a vision of the future, not reminded of the disasters of the past. Labour put itself on the back foot with its 'the tories fucked it all up' stance right at the beginning of its tenure.  All Lammy had to do (as with Reeves and Raynor etc) was say 'mea culpa. We've made a mistake, we'll fix it. Sorry guys, we're on it'. But instead it's 'nothing to see here / it's someone else's fault / I was buying a suit / hadn't been briefed yet'.  And, of course, the press smells blood, which never helps.  Oh! And Reeve's speech on Wednesday was so drab and predictable that even the journalists at the press conference couldn't really be arsed to come up with any challenging questions. 
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...