Barry Road

[schoolmum]

I wondered if there are any plans to reduce traffic speed and noise on Barry Road? Are there any plans for cameras for example? 

[tedfudge]

Having lived on Barry road since 2001 I have seen many car crashes and people especially children run over plus many animals killed I have lost 1 dog and 3 cats over the years to speeding drivers and wreckless drivers. There needs to be something put on Barry road as I've seen so many people speeding and overtaking other vehicles , I personally have asked the council 4 times to put speed bumps or cameras along Barry road but they have refused to do so as speed bumps will affect the busses using Barry road and also they will only put cameras and road carming measures in Barry road if requested to do so by the police ... 

[Spartacus]

The buses goes back to when the council did put a speed hump in which broke the chassis of the old routemaster buses causing TfL to divert them away from Barry Road and to run along Lordship Lanr until the hump was removed. 

I think there is also concerns that with buses and lorries using Barru Road that vibrations from big vehicles going over humps will damage property leaving the council potentially liable 

 

[malumbu]

Average speed cameras are a great way to reduce speed, improve road safety and also encourages smoother driving which cuts emissions.  I'd love these on Brenchley Gardens, and out of borough Perry Vale.  I need Southwark and Lewisham road officers to think the same.

I'd also love the main political parties to understand this and explain the benefits to drivers to get them on board, so a win win win win win, and not a vote loser.

 

[Pugwash]

There was a speed camera installed at the top end of Barry Road near the bus stop going towards Peckham. This was several years ago but was removed for some unknown reason. I have lived in Barry Road since 1975 and there have been various campaigns by local residents to reduce speeds. Corners such as at Goodrich, Upland and Underhill were supposed to decrease speed but in effect have increased accidents as drivers coming from the side roads have to pull out so far to see on coming traffic. Have also taken part in 2 road watches with police re speeding and I know other residents near the Upland Road end have done this frequently. Humps were installed many years ago but bus drivers refused to use Barry Road as damaging vehicles and also complaints by passengers of uncomfortable journeys. Barry Road like most other roads has a 20 mph speed limit, I have frequently been overtaken by impatient  drivers not  willing to stick to this. Traffic and noise has increased since closure of roads re LTN, also the frequent closures of many roads due to burst pipes have seen additional traffic on Barry Road as bus routes such as 63/363 have been redirected.  Council did draw up plans some time ago and displayed then in the community centre, and St Clements Hall for local consultation, but many of the proposals were rejected  or found to be impractical. There was a proposal a few years ago to put a zebra crossing at the 'top end' of Barry to give a safe crossing for St Anthony's pupils but residents realised that drivers coming down from lights towards Peckham would have insufficient time to brake (even at 20mph) as crossing was just beyond the bend.

[Romnarz]

You buy a house ( cheaper than the surrounding houses  ) along a busy main road and are surprised that it has a lot of fast moving traffic.

solution-  move to Devon or ........... (or  any number of boring lovely idyllic places with no jobs, museums, theatres  etc  

[first mate]

I disagree. There are clear speed limits in place and therefore absolutely no reason for speeding ( people speed in Devon too and country roads are notoriously dangerous). 

Why the Council won't put a camera in on such a well used road, when they can do it elsewhere, is not clear. Perhaps someone has the answer?

[mrwb]

Maybe they could put in accident blackspot signage ? It is isn't it? 

Might make people think.

Edited June 14, 2023 by mrwb

[Earl Aelfheah]

12 hours ago, Romnarz said:

You buy a house ( cheaper than the surrounding houses  ) along a busy main road and are surprised that it has a lot of fast moving traffic.

solution-  move to Devon or ........... (or  any number of boring lovely idyllic places with no jobs, museums, theatres  etc  

We shouldn't accept dangerous driving just because it's a 'busy road'. 

[Earl Aelfheah]

Geofencing / speed limiters should be standard on all new cars. Crazy that use such technology on electric scooters but not motor vehicles.

Edited June 14, 2023 by Earl Aelfheah

[heartblock]

Do not have speed humps...they do not reduce speed but they will create noise and pollution. There are other measures...traffic islands or road changes. You will regret a speed hump.. trust me on this one.

[dougiefreeman]

We live on barry road, there was a dreadful crash outside our house a few years ago (thankfully no-one was hurt but 3 cars were written off and property damaged). Young guy doing 60-70mph - it was late in the evening , I shudder to think what would have happened had it been earlier in the day since he shunted a car across the pavement into a wall.

Its my understanding that a standard fixed speed camera would do nothing to improve the issue of speeding since people just slow down and then speed up once past.

Average speed cameras are the only way to ensure a limit is adhered to consistently but owing to the multiple different entry and exit points to the road, it would be extraordinarily difficult to actually enforce average speed checks.

Theres the added problem of large poles And cameras lining the streets being an eyesore.

Technology will eventually solve the problem with much smaller cams mounted to existing lampposts with computer systems that can cope with all the different surrounding roads and junctions too.

[first mate]

Barry Road is a dangerous road and I regularly see people driving like maniacs. Perhaps a couple of pedestrian crossings would help?

I take the points on speed humps and on cameras.

[ArmandHelpen1]

Cars go so fast that they don’t have time to react to the zebra crossing outside the nursery on Barry road - I’ve had cars continue across when my children and I have been waiting to use/are actually already using it. It’s an accident waiting to happen. 

[tedfudge]

On 21/07/2023 at 01:55, dougiefreeman said:

We live on barry road, there was a dreadful crash outside our house a few years ago (thankfully no-one was hurt but 3 cars were written off and property damaged). Young guy doing 60-70mph - it was late in the evening , I shudder to think what would have happened had it been earlier in the day since he shunted a car across the pavement into a wall.

Its my understanding that a standard fixed speed camera would do nothing to improve the issue of speeding since people just slow down and then speed up once past.

Average speed cameras are the only way to ensure a limit is adhered to consistently but owing to the multiple different entry and exit points to the road, it would be extraordinarily difficult to actually enforce average speed checks.

Theres the added problem of large poles And cameras lining the streets being an eyesore.

Technology will eventually solve the problem with much smaller cams mounted to existing lampposts with computer systems that can cope with all the different surrounding roads and junctions too.

One of those cars was mine this happend about 7 or 8 years ago

It was a Nissan micra , 

The guy in question was drunk and it was his mums car , 

On Monday the 24th July a woman hit my parked car outside my house number 63 Barry road and now denying it , I do have her number plate and a photo of the driver , if any CCTV or witness I would appreciate it,  happend around 9.30 am

[malumbu]

Did she stop at the scene and give you her details which I think should include insurance.  If not it is a hit and run and report to the police 

Sounds as if she stopped but then denied hitting you.

There will be matching paint at the point of impact.

There will be ambulance chaser solicitors you can use if all else fails.

[tedfudge]

1 hour ago, malumbu said:

Did she stop at the scene and give you her details which I think should include insurance.  If not it is a hit and run and report to the police 

Sounds as if she stopped but then denied hitting you.

There will be matching paint at the point of impact.

There will be ambulance chaser solicitors you can use if all else fails.

Yes she stopped , I got her name and insurance company , I got an email yesterday from my insurance company saying she and her insurance company ( admiral ) are denying this ..  Unfortunately I haven’t been able to get the third party (the other person involved) or their insurers to admit liability yet.

womtvneed ambulance chasers as I was in doors when it happend and car parked outside my house