mockney piers

Did anyone else find the wording momentarily jarring. It suddenly occured to me that I hadn't stopped to think what no and yes meant, and I was expecting boxes next to AV and FPTP, as if they were candidates. Weird.

Oh, and Joey. Genius!!!!!!

Family guy has pretty much ruined all American comedy for me. Everything else is just a bit pants after that. Well, maybe I'm ok with Arrested Development.

Wee.

yournotme comes to the rescue, in this country (over the age of 18) are: ewan kerr: 13 wayne kerr: 10 dwayne pipe: 0 that little boy'll be the first!!! Michael Hunt: 515 wow, that's a lot of stupid parents!! Christopher Peacock: 178 ditto Bonnie's a lovely name. Great work. Tell me your surname isn't N'Clyde or anything is it?

more no vote dirty tricks missonepostite?

Before Osama Bin Laden was located, few people knew of Abbotabad and not many had heard of Islamabad or Faisalabad. But we've all known Westhamabad all season. Baddamtish, thank you very much ladies and gentlemen, I'm here all night.

So basically we want all the benefits without letting anyone else benefit from it? I think that's called having your cake and eating it, or being told to bog off as it's otherwise known. Either be in or be out, can't have it half way. Plus i really don't get a say in how this country is run (especially if 'No' wins tomorrow) so choose your poison Europe or Westminster basically; and I'm probably alone in this, give me a committee thrashing out compromises, over the presidential powers of the PM any day; long gone are the days of local privileges I'm afraid (unless it's being allowed to roll a cheese down a hill once a year).

So gut feel over rational reasoning? Hardly compelling. The real reason is that the no vote realises it has much to lose and has been motivated to turn out more successfully than the target of the yes vote. The appeal that AV will help erode voter apathy has sadly failed to do anything about voter apathy. If a no vote wins then those that stand to gain from more democracy can only blame themselves for not actually having their say, when for once they actually could. I'll be voting yes, but like every other vote I've ever cast I'm sure it'll be wasted. Depressing really.

While I applaud someone not believing something without proof, skepticism is a healthy trait in a historian especially with secondary sources, I'm not sure why someone would equally happily believe something based on no evidence whatsoever. In fact far from keeping the idea of a bogeyman alive to justify the war on terror, OBL didn't really figure in any of the justification of invasions and dodgy alliances of the WoT, whilst his continued freedom just made the Bush administration look incompetent and indecisive (like they needed any help doing that). Bush would have killed (bad dam-tish) for the propaganda boost of getting his man just as he did his mission accomplished and 'we got him' over saddam. If even reading between the lines it's unconvincing, so not sure from whence your certainty originates DJKQ.

*won goddamit. Look I'm struggling to keep my eyes open here.

"This is either the fault of an unfair system or the fault of the left for being too useless to present a unified front." Or indeed why Franco the Spanish Civil War.

In fact are all Buck's Fizz obese and indebted. Perhaps all the companies pooled together to take advantage of the threefers deal.

wow, sort of a snorky post with less spittle. Not lacking in reason mind you, but then that's often true of the snorkster.

Very new labour tactic there silverfox. Just by repeating something often enough doesn't make it true. As a neutral the yes camp have been by far the more persuasive. Soemthing about MarmoraMan's caution and mistrust of change has been more appealing than your misinformation admittedly, but the yes camp definitely won it for reasoned argument.

Whilst I'm no conspiracy theorist, it's hardly surprising that after all the lies around Iraq and the blatant deceit of trying lo link Saddam to 9-11 that no one believes a word the president says, so profoundly has the institution been damaged, first by Clinton and then much more severely by Bush. That said it would be fankly bizarre to make this claim now under a false pretence. I do agree that in terms of PR it has been handled woefully badly and the decision to 'bury at sea' without so much a snapshot released to bolster the claim is very odd indeed. It does leave you wondering if he's really in some dank cellar in Colombia or Saudi Arabia with some nasty outsourced men getting medieval on his ass.

Ajo.

In all fairness, sins of the fathers and all that. I can't recall Liz doing too much oppressing. She's actually presided over the end of colonialism. I supopse we can name a couple of post-colonialism conflicts that Britain should be ashamed of, but I really don't think they were instigated as a result of Brenda phoning Eden or Wilson up and saynig 'have at them fuzzie-wuzzies wot ho' All she's guilty of is being profoundly rich whilst sponging off the state to fulfil he role as head of state, and being a bit dull. Oh and scioning (can that be a verb?) a pretty loathsome bunch of children; but the next generation are on the whole ok. I'm no royalist (though that johnny-charles chap in Spain is a very cool bloke) but that was a tad unfair.

I do love looking on there for the weird and wonderful. There really are 7 (this is all over 18 by the way as i think it comes from the electoral roll) Chardonnays in the country, and 2 incorrectly spelt Chardonays too! In my new job I work with a Sorrel, which incidentally I think is a lovely name, which got me thinking about other herbs and spices. I see we have a Saffron on here, 600 odd of you. The are: 2 Thymes 1 Dandelion 6 Chards 24 Peppers 3 Mints 4 Tarragons 20 Verbenas 4 Chiles, 4 Chillis and 2 Chilis 78000 Rosemarys and no Aniseeds in this country. Look, i just do this sort of thing, I can't help it okay?

Oooh, the power of neighbours jason & kylie

oooh, cool. piers doesn't rank at all :( I take it's US, would love to see something similar for uk, in the meantime I guess we have to make do with http://www.yournotme.com/ 8000: Rory spread thus 7000: sebastian is spread thus Which doesn't tell us a great deal other than both names went a little out of vogue about 20 years ago as name tastes broadened, that old people die, and that for whatever reason nobody was named either Rory or Sebastian during WW2 and it's aftermath, did everyone get called Winston and Monty or something?

Thanks again for all the suggestions. We have booked a spot at the River Cafe but it's touch and go whether we'll make it, let's just say no delays allowed, so will book a spot at Jean Georges on the requisite one month in advance and will go for one of the two. Many of the others we reckon are huuuuge contenders for the saturday and sunday, lunch and dinner, so we're going to try as many as we can squeeze in to take advantage of not having our adorable munchkin with us (who strained out the smelliest poo of all time right next to a very unappreciative (and grumpy beforehand frankly) couple at Meson Candido in Segovia this weekend to much laughter and consternation respectively, so clearly not table trained enough for the likes of Jean Georges who I suspect don't do high chairs!).

Sebastian is quite common in Spain, but you're right, I don't think it's specifically Iberian. Nice name though. Seb for short is quite cool too. Lamia, lovely ring to it, but yep, it is a bit like being called Incubus or Gorgon or something ;) A quick swizz and it's Greek apparently meaning 'revered', and definitely coming into vogue

I had a whole host of Spanish names lined up, but missus mockers reasoned (somewhat biasedly) that as the mocklet's surname was Spanish the first name had to be Irish Gaelic. So out went Enrique, Marta, Fernando, Xavier (that we both really liked), Eva (ditto), Jaime, Rosa, Pedr?n, Margarita, Jes?s, Angel and many more. In all fairness though a lot of spanish names sound rubbish when anglicised. I did struggle with many of the gaelic ones, especially Grainne (sounds like something you say to the aspadistra in the adventure game) and fiacra (odd), Cillian (sounds like killing). But loved Aoife (though i always spell it wrong (except this once, but had to look it up)), Naimh, Dillon, which her nephew nabbed first and quite a few others. Ironically her neice born 6 months before hand has a spanish name, Liliana! Managed to get away with a spellable scottish name in the end, I love a great British compromise (between an irish lady and a spaniard!!).

Exactly. The 'traditional' pubs doing things well still attract punters. Those serving bad beer in surroundings that haven't seen a lick of paint or new carpet since 1960, unsurprisingly are closing down. If you like that sort of thing (and I do, the good one obviosuly) then you can do it. People like tarot see a pub conversion and extrapolate that everything's wrong with the world, which is of course a ridiculous position to maintain.