PeckhamRose

That photo bottom right (from the pictures posted on X), is that really Peckham Rye Park?  Looks like the Sierras after a fire when there were only burned twigs, before a rainstorm happened.  

On the east side of the park - ie. the other side of the park from the festival site, it has been hell this year.  The music has been so loud and disturbing.  They have to - and did so - turn the music off 10.30pm sharp.  But when one is stuck at home even with double glazing it's so disruptive, and on warm days and evenings you want to open windows but can't. 

Anyway, I am interested to know just how many complaints were made this year, and also would be interested to know what the results were from the independent sound company that were hired to come round our side of the park to test the Db levels when we made complaints.  How many were too high?   I asked both [email protected] and Gala themselves and have not been replied to, so that may need  FOI request too. 

As for the commercial sensitivity reasoning behind Gala not disclosing how much they pay Southwark Council for this disruption (all kids of it), that has also to be challenged.  With all the complaints I don't think Southwark would continue to allow it if the money was not worth our disruption.   

I hope next year all of you will attend the meetings.  There were a few well publicised meetigs leading up to Gala, and they seemed to have broken all their promises for change; for example more toilets, yet people pee'd in bushes;  more bins yet photo evidence shows  not being emptied regularly;  Southwark cutting big branches off trees - why couldn't Gala just work out better areas to avoid the trees, maybe angle the fencing a bit?  So yes, I think I shall be firing a few FOI's and the sooner the better.   

Best wishes all. 

So how many of you attended the meeting at the Blakes Bar above the Clockhouse last week.  It was interesting.  I think they were a little stunned by how much information we had gleaned about their company and plans.  The Friends of Peckham RYe Park members and the  Chair was there and said it was awful just how little the park would get from the money being made by the Council. The two Southwark Events Officers were there listening to it all. Someone raised the really important issue of all the diesel trucks chucking out heaps of disel whilst it's all going on, right near kids playing grounds too as it was being set up.  And others made great points about the damage to wildlife habitats.  The doubling to SIX days and nights was discussed, and the company's weak and rather patronising argument that one of the days will be for older and younger people who can be let in for free, was laughed at.  As I said before, research the company, do some work, and please make your observations known to the council by the due date.     We said, it is OUR park, bought for the public for all our enjoyment in 1894 (I think that is the year; I attended the centenery in 1994 with Tessa Jowell and others dressed in Victorian dress where a rather poor and now rusty looking plinth celebrates the point), and for a section of it to be closed off for a month, and six days of noise and disturbance is not reasonable, or fair.  

Hi folks.  In the leaflet put through our door, from the Council, it said, "..... we have received an application from Assembled Live Ltd...."   Southwark have made a mistake. There is no such company (in Companies House anyway) with this name, but there IS a company called Assembled Gala Ltd.  There was a meeting at Southwark a few years ago where a woman I think is called Lisa, from this company, told us she was a local herself.  Well Lisa Boden Shah was a director and left this position in Jan 2022, and the same date a company called Edition Capital Ltd joined the other two individual male directors as directors of Assembled Gala Ltd.  Edition Capital Ltd is a corporate director, and listed as having 20 directorships including Assembled Gala Ltd.

They can't be considered a local company anymore, they refuse to say how much they benefit the council (for commercial reasons), and they regularly ignore the serious and many concerns of the local people surrounding the park.  My own councillor is Renata Hamvas who is the head of licencing committee.

I look forward to seeing everyone on 29th November and see what they have to say.  Looks like it will be at the Tenants and Residents Hall of Rye Hill Estate and Rye Hill Park but not necessarily; we'll be told by email on the morning of 29th. It's also good it will be available to live stream so all digitally capable/connected people will be able to take part.

11 hours ago, ianr said:

"King's" for "King's College" is common, so for those who want to use a short, familiar form, I think its use for the hospital too would come fairly easily.  I can't remember what I use myself, but in informal conversation, with people who shared the local knowledge, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find myself choosing it rather than the didactic and formal full form, or to hear it from those I was speaking with.  Cf too this from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King's_College_Hospital:

"King's College Hospital is a major teaching hospital and major trauma centre in Denmark Hill, Camberwell in the London Borough of Lambeth, referred to locally and by staff simply as "King's""

PS I'd scrolled back just as far as the message so hadn't noticed the title's "King's Hospital", which I'm not keen on but not aghast at: I'm not sure that it demonstrates an ignorance of the full name.  Plain "King's"  might have done, or "King's (Hospital) at a pinch".  "KCH"  might be an acceptable  blend of familiarity and  exactness.  Otherwise I think the writer is lumbered with having to use the fuil three word form, which is itself perhaps rather overserious and clunky. 

The title "Problems with King's ...", with its hint of possibly serious institutional faults, is another matter.  The message itelf unexceptionably  asks whether there are  any patients who may have recently had "problems with referrals or appointments".  Copying the "problems with" into the title  was not, I think,  a good idea.

 

 

Hi ianr, Indeed the full title is King's College Hospital Foundation Trust which is just plain nuts. One is expected to write that on cheques, yes, cheques, when paying for dental treatment at their outreach clinics!

You are sounding like you are proactively looking for problems.  There are current problems because the consultants tell me that they are having to book fewer appointments while the system sets in and everyone learns to use it.  I am a patient at three different hospital trusts.  The first MyChart use was set up by one in the north, and it and the other two do not link up with one another which is a bit annoying since they would all be useful to one another.  However - and I have already reported this to the MyChart techies - when results are posted on our apps this can be really problematic. Whilst they have promised NOT to post positive tests for cancer (how thoughtful), they are putting on results of tests for other things which can and for me DO still cause massive concern.  One can ask the hospitals not to post the tests  results on the App.  So far, no one is doing this for me.  It's a concern because you have to wait the lengthier time for your next consultation to discuss the very worrying test results.  And don't tell me not to look at them when they come through.  The other problem is, what about the digitally excluded?  Here's another problem you may want to focus your reporting skills on.  The private company that runs the phlebtomy departments of all the hospitals associated with Kings College Hospital, and the fact we now have to register with that separate company, and we can't phone them for appointments, and it is really made hard for digitally excluded older people and younger ones who can't use it, too.  Report on that please.

 

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Grrrrrrrrrrrr! Thanks though.

I am not sure he remembers how many kids he has. By the way, if child support is only for the first two kids, but a man marries another woman and has two more, are those kids entitled to the child support? And then if the woman also goes on to have two more with another man, are those kids entitled to the child support? The point is, if one is rich they can breed all they like, but if one is poor and the child support stops after the first two..... and THROW that discussion bomb into this thread!

And GALA have more plans for Peckham Rye Park. They have been one of four shortlisted for the Bowling Green area to set up a permanent music area. I hope the Friends Of Peckham Rye Park manage to persuade them of the insensitiveity of this idea, including to the planting and so on nearby as well as the disturbance. http://www.peckhamryepark.org/news

THAT is my point. She died in 2013 and she died from pollution, yet the LTNs set up on Grove Vale and others, from a main residential road and school, means more traffic shall affect kids in the school, and those living on the main roads being made to breathe in more fumes BECAUSE of the LTNs forcing more traffic on to those roads. Please follow the logic.

ohthehugemanateeLTN3 Wrote:

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> PeckhamRose Wrote:

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> > Ella Adoo-Kissi-Debrah, who died of an asthma

> > attack who had lived on South Circular Road:

> this

> > terrible story is ignored when setting up Low

> > Traffic NEighbourhoods.

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> She died in 2013,long long before the LTNs.

> Walthamstow LTN set up in 2015 has shown that over

> an extended period, the fears about increased

> traffic do not pan out.

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> What's worse is that traffic has increased

> substantially in London since 2013:

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> https://roadtraffic.dft.gov.uk/regions/6

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> And yet people here keep proposing basically doing

> nothing. Yes I know people are proposing wild

> grand schemes that are unimplementable. Proposing

> something that cannot or will not happen is no

> different from proposing nothing.

Ella Adoo-Kissi-Debrah, who died of an asthma attack who had lived on South Circular Road: this terrible story is ignored when setting up Low Traffic NEighbourhoods. The school and residents on Grove Vale, for example, suffer more now because traffic can't turn into the side roads to get where they need to be more quickly. It also means cars and delivery vans and so on are using more petrol/electricity even, in traffic jams. The logic does not add up for me. Goose Green Roundabout is not always at a standstill, but very, very often is. But putting Low Traffic Neighbourhood blocks at the areas of residential streets such as Grove Vale is, is just thoughtless. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55330945

DO you assume that the only people upset about the noise own houses? How small minded of you. If ever you are involved in an accident or need the services of A&E I hope you are not faced with a nurse who through lack of sleep in his or her council or private flat they can barely afford the rent on, doesn't make an error in treating you. We are part of one society reliant on one another whether we like it or not.

Houseoflego Wrote:

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> Welcome to the forum johncollins

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> > Man, you all need to chill out. it?s three days

> > man ahah if you don?t like it sell your gaff

> and

> > move to surrey to be with likeminded people.

> just

> > take pleasure in other people having a good

> time.

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> > I?d recommend if you have a problem with it

> > happening go and ask if anyone partying there

> has

> > got a spare spliff for you

Quite a few I know have complained to noise team and they have a van going around checking the decibels levels. As are Gala themselves, (who also said at the 'consultation' meetings they would be reseeding and making good the land they have been on. But it depends on the decibel levels I suppose. It can still be loud and disruptive to people when in their own homes surrounding the park and beyond, whilst still being in the levels set (by someone!)

jazzer Wrote:

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> It was banging out loud enough even up the hill

> last night. Are these events not governed by the

> no. of db's and if exceeded, need to be reduced.

> Where's the noise team???

> I do feel very sorry for those in the midst of the

> intolerable bass.

> Today Hornimans Gardens are closed for the Jerk

> music and burnt food event that they have brought

> back, so stuck in the middle of the two.

> It seems to be all about ?? Money at the expense

> of local residents.

There was a thread on Fb about this which also got nasty. I found a hotline number to complain to Gala 02081917220.

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Hi folks. I found a set of keys Peckham Rye East Side junction with Elland Road / Cheltenham Road area. Describe them to me including any fobs and so on. You may have to come and collect though.

Hiya, elsewhere I have posted I found keys but I will confirm the ones I found are not this. I do wish your mate well. So worrying!

Thanks!

elloriac Wrote:

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> There are 2 people in the lost and found section

> looking for keys :-)

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I LOVE how he says he does not live in the house, he lives inside his head. That's exactly my feeling about me. Can't wait till it opens for business again!

For clarity.

Peckham Rye EAST side, is SE15, and the Common is SE15.

Peckham Rye WEST side, is SE22, as is the Park, SE22

One side has odd numbers (SE15 I think!)

The other has even numbers.

Meanwhile, SOUTH is towards the TOP of the hill.

North is towards Peckham and the river.

You're welcome.

To block a road to all but cycles (and the four busses that use it?) so that no-one can turn right, ie west, towards East Dulwich Road/Roundabout, from either Peckham Rye East OR West, shows utter stupidity, thoughtlessness, and all round f*&%wittery of those who run our Council. It WILL affect cycles because the extra traffic build up on PEckham Rye West will make it more dangerous for them. All council meetings I have ever attended I have tried to remind them that not all people can ride cycles for reasons of health age dis/ability or other. This idea is planned for after Covid has been dealt with I think. We must sign the petition and either all turn up and stop the work from going ahead, or just raise our eyebrows in despair.

Signed.

To be fair, Kristals in Nunhead had said their suppliers' prices were hiked up so that had to pass it on.

Not all small businesses are bring greedy; some might be of course.

As for it being illegal to hike up the prices. Where did you read that? Go round and tell the petrol station charging ?1.27 when I just got it down the road for ?1.19 a litre.

My husband's arrived today. I'm still not eligible!