Saffron

Since the teeth aren't discoloured, it doesn't sound like there is nerve damage. If the nerves had been severely traumatised by the impact of the fall, then their innervation of the vascular bed supplying the teeth could have become damaged, causing the blood supply to the tooth to faulter. This can result in a "dead" tooth, even though the tooth may remain embedded in the gums. But that doesn't seem to be the case from your description. It does sound like the enamel may be damaged, especially as you mention one tooth is visibly chipped. I have tiny chip in one of my front teeth as well, and if you put a dental torch behind the teeth, you can even see a fracture running the length of the tooth. I've been using Sensodyne for years, and generally my teeth don't bother me. However, I recently noticed when I had a bad cold and blocked sinus (lots mouth-breathing at night when I was sleeping), that not only were my teeth incredibly sensitive to hot tea in the morning, they were also visibly dehydrated. I could actually see white patches on the enamel where it was dehydrated. These gradually disappeared as the enamel rehydrated, and my teeth aren't bothering me now. Personally, I'd think removing the teeth ought to be a worst-case scenario, as it sounds like the damage is mainly superficial. But if they do have to come out early, I agree with EDMummy. It'll probably be just fine. One of my brothers kicked out our other brother's tooth when we were kids. (Yes, they were very naughty children.) The permanant tooth grew in just fine some time later despite the rather traumatic exit of the milk tooth! Could you try mixing a pronamel toothpaste with your LO's regular toothpaste to get her used to the new flavour?

With what have you tried to treat the sensitive teeth? If the enamel has microscopic cracks from the fall, something like Sensodyne Pronamel toothpaste might help. Also, do you notice if your LO complains more about her teeth when she has a nose cold? When the nose is congested and you breathe through your mouth, this can temporarily dehydrate the enamel. Basically, it dries out your teeth. So that can aggravate sensitive teeth.

Sometimes I think the problem is not so much that people are intolerant of children, but that they're quite judgemental of others' parenting styles. The phrase "losen your judgey pants" comes to mind.* xx *Thanks to Ruth_B

I'm sorry to say that having a sibling is not a guarantee that the children will never be lonely, or that they will always have each other to play with (or want to play with each other). Although obviously it's lovely if they do. There are no guarantees when it comes to having a child/ren.

Or maybe we can all just label our feelings before we start throwing things. That will stop us in our tracks from being bad parents and make us reflect on our feelings. (Ha, as if.)

And possibly more problematic when one lands in your coffee.

Nah, I reckon you can just flick it out of the foam on your coffee with your monte blanc pen. It's when you get a clipping in the eye that you know it's gonna be a bad day.

My mother used to send us all to school when we were ill, and I f*&?ing hated it. She also made me sit through a 2 hr church service with apendicitis. The guilt trip was legendary.

Only in lifts ;-)

Not sure why make-up bothers people? Make-up can be applied quietly, doesn't smell, and doesn't leave anything behind like brushing hair or clipping nails. Seriously it's all relative, isn't it? I'd rather sit next to someone applying eyeliner than picking his/her nose -- both of which I've seen in abundance.

Well, the easy living of our childhoods has come back to bit us in the collective bum with Austerity measures now anyway.

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Because those on benefits who are unwilling to > work should not live in London or any other big > city- property in London is under pressure should > be for those who are willing to work. The > unemployment rate in London is 9% against 8% for > the rest of the country. So the idea is that moving them out of London will free up housing stock? But is there any evidence that freeing up housing stock would make it any easier for new graduates and first-time buyers to buy a house? (If indeed buying a house is an admirable goal for any number of reasons mentioned above...) There would still be the issues of proprotion of wages against cost of rent making it difficult for these people to save for a deposit, because not only are rents high so are average deposits. Are we going to have a generation of graduate/postgraduates and young skilled labourers leaving London? Or (possibly worse?) choosing to live in London but never being able to invest in bricks and morter, and therefore needing more state-subsidized assistance in old age?

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Come on, breast vs bottle, Gina Ford, breast > feeding etiquette in public, kids in pubs, kids on > buses. > > Come on, I need entertainment, lets have a ruck! You left out homeopathy, immunisations, food additives, and free schools.

Do unfriendly, stuck-up, non-helpful shop assistants really have anything to do with children though? Seriously, British shop assistants are infamous for being surly and snobbish. Hmm, admittedly if you have children in tow, then it can be all the more unpleasant. However I've generally found people more engaging since I've had my daugher. Children can be an 'ice breaker' with strangers. Maybe it's the British sense of reserve that keeps people from interacting or being more tolerant of children? Interestingly, the 'stiff up lip' has been recognised by some as a relatively recent phenomenon.

treehugger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't even know where the nearest police station > is any more. I hear LL PS is beign turned into a > Waitrose. Ooo, will they let you abandon children there? Maybe they'd give you a discount on groceries, like a trade-in scheme?

Don't some places legally allow you to 'abandon' your baby in a babyhatch? Not legal in the UK. The US has safe-haven laws for infant abandonment, but as one couple discovered some years ago, these laws do not extend to abandoning your teenagers. (But hey it's the thought that counts anyway, right?) More recently these parents got in serious trouble for trying to ditch their 6-yo. http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Couple-Tried-to-Abandon-6-Year-Old-at-Police-Station-Cops-116735219.html But, oh they said they just wanted to "teach her a lesson". Hmmm.

Possibly somewhat annoying, but not as bad as the lady I saw read a newspaper, then LICK each of her fingers and rub them together to take off the ink stain! Give me the nail varnisher over that any day. Hey maybe I can get a quick touch-up on my nails too?

meh... it's been done. there must be something "new" out there?

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Do any of you who dismiss my idea ever venture out > of ED to the poorer areas of london and observe > the numbers who are languishing on benefits? Or do > you know many people who claim benefits and work > the black economy? Actually, YES. And, YES. But that's totally beside the point, no? I won't dispute that the benefits system is not perfect, although I don't perceive it to be as bad as you do. WHAT, if anything, does this have to do with current issue of high rental prices in London proportional to average incomes?

Hi- Follow the link I posted above to the FHR group for info on the Oakwood Midwifery Service... here's what it says, "Your antenatal care will be carried out by the Oakwood Midwifery Service based at the practice. They will offer you an initial home visit and discuss with you booking procedures, scanning and delivery options and will look after you during your pregnancy. Midwives can be contacted on 020 8299 5696. Your postnatal and baby check will take place about six weeks after delivery and we ask all mothers to attend this appointment. Your doctor will discuss with you any problems you may be experiencing. The midwives also run an early pregnancy/prenatal clinic on alternate Tuesday mornings 8.30 - 10.00am (please see the board in the waiting room for details)." xx

LondonMix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If you don't own your own home, the saving you > will need in retirement will be higher. Is that because people are able to borrow against the equity on their homes during retirement? Or because they tend to sell/downsize to release the equity in larger homes? > > From a societal perspective, apparently homeowners > are more involved and invested in their > communities (there have been studies I think) but > I'm not sure that bit is really the cause. It > might just reflect that people who like toput down > roots (and can afford to) tend to be community > minded rather than having a house making you > community minded as such. Yes, I think that very well could be the case, although I don't have the data either. There'e a psychological paradigm which basically demonstrates that the more someone invests in something (eg owning a home), the more they feel their investment is worthwhile (eg they attribute value to their community). (Urgh, I can't remember what this psych principle is called!) ...which is not to say that renters don't value their communities, but perhaps the perceived security of homeownership also leaves people with more psychological energy to invest in their communities. So is this a valid argument for shifting people from renting to ownership? Or is that never going to be possible in a city like London where rents are so high?

Saffron Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But what about people who do work, but cannot > manage to save any money because their rental fees > take a disproportional amount of their earnings? Just to clarify in relation to other comments... that's people who do work, and are not on benefits. For example, I'm thinking about the current and upcoming waves of graduates and postgraduates, who may be coming out of university with high student debts, but not immediately earning the type of income that could repay student debts while simultaneous affording London rent and/trying to save for a mortgage deposit. Will London see an exodus of these types of workers, and will that have undesirable effects? Or will it simply open the natural way for competition in these markets? Another point to ponder... is it beneficial for everyone (or most everyone) to aim for home ownership? (The counterpoint to this being, Is renting detrimental for many people?) For example, my friend lives in Swizerland with his wife and daughter, and he has a stable, well-paid job. Yet he doesn't see the need for homeownership. Instead of investing money in bricks and morter, he invests in high-return savings accounts, bonds etc. However, in proportion to London rents, his rent seems to be less, and this scenario is far more common in Switzerland than here (as far as I could tell... although comparing Basel to London may be a bit apples/oranges... it's just to make a hypothetical point).

WorkingMummy, here is the link on tantrums (I think this is the one you wanted?) http://m.npr.org/story/143062378?url=/blogs/health/2011/12/05/143062378/whats-behind-a-temper-tantrum-scientists-deconstruct-the-screams . As originally posted by Fuschia here http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?29,854520,854520#msg-854520 . xx

But what about people who do work, but cannot manage to save any money because their rental fees take a disproportional amount of their earnings?

What exactly is the fault with the machine? I mean, when you tried to use it, what happened? Maybe there's something relatively simple on it that could be repaired? I can think of quite a few fairly simple things that can go wrong with these machines. You could probably get some decent advice from Forumites on how to repair it. So it still sucks if you feel you were cheated on the deal, but at least if you got it cleaned and working you could use it.