sarahstrawberries

John Lydon a.k.a. Johnny Rotten drank in the Nags Head for many a year...

If you do get bitten, apply magnesium sulphate paste (with a plaster or dressing over the top to keep it on your skin). It draws the poison out. It's actually used for boils and carbuncles, but works equally well on mosquito bites. Use Hydrocortisone cream to help with the itching.

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > One story of a young man (involved in some pretty > awful stuff) and ultimately jailed for assisted > rape should not be taken as the overview on this. > The Aylesbury has been a particularly troubled > estate (that's one of the resons it is being > knocked down and rebuilt). Placing a centre for > anything within it has faced challenges. Many of > those attending lived on it's doorstep (with gang > culture always a factor of local life). ED is a > different environment altogether and I believe > that will make some difference. There are gangs in > ED too btw but their impact on the local aea is > not as strong as it is in some other areas. A gang > member waiting outside to bully another has no > impact on anyone but the person being bullied. And > there is a specialised YOS to deal with gang > related issues. From the details you give > though...this particular teen was a lost cause and > that's why he's now in jail. > > No, absolutely shouldn't be taken as the overview, and wasn't intended to be such. You say the Aylesbury is being knocked down and rebuilt, however I saw a news story a couple of months ago that said Cameron had pulled the funding and so now, unless they can find other means of funding the cost, it will stay for the foreseeable future... I sincerely hope this is not the case. Does anybody know anything else about this? As far as I'm concerned, the more we can do to break this cycle of crime/bullying/gang activity, the better. I would like to think that the teen I spoke about is not a lost cause, however I feel he may well be.

MissNoodlesHats Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "The YOS is currently located on the Aylesbury > estate which is about as central to Southwark in > population terms as you can get. " > > Well that's convenient , slap bang in the middle > of a pretty rough estate. As for the C02 argument > that's just desperate. It's just about keeping > your electorate happy and in that sense > politicians are completely amoral. That's what > makes them so insidious. East Dulwich is part of > the wider community and shoulder the burden along > with the rest of society. And it seems to me that > DJKQ is pretty much mostly 'right' in what she > says, intelligence clearly helps her in this > regard. Back in March I was picked to do Jury Service at the Central Criminal Court, The Old Bailey. There were 3 young lads on the 2 week case I sat on, one of whom was only 17 at the time (he turned 18 during the trial). This young lad, we found out during the trial, was (at the time of the crime, a year previous) on a Youth Offending Scheme. By his own admittance, during the year after the crime was committed that he was being judged for at the OB, he failed regularly to turn up at his YOS; on the Aylesbury Estate (the lad was from Peckham). Why? Because of the "gang troubles he ran into over that way". The story unfolded that he's a gang member, was on a youth offending scheme, but unable to go to his YOS because an opposing gang operate in/occupy the estate that houses his YOS, and this puts him in extreme danger. Apparently, the other gang members would await near the YOS for their 'enemies' to arrive. Instead, this young lad was forced to going to a YOS in Rotherhithe. The jury found him guilty of the crime with which he was charged, at which point we found out details of his previous crimes: Robbery, possession of an offensive weapon, burglary, assisting a rape; and he is currently serving 10 years for raping an underage girl. I am all in favour of rehabilitating these young kids in trouble, and in gang-prevention. Having, as a spectator, been involved in the above sad story, it worries me slightly not that the YOS in itself could be a problem, but that it could be a focus for trouble from gang-related members. Sadly, I think that the aforementioned lad is so thoroughly wrapped up in gang life, and now prison life, that he is possibly beyond rehabilitation. He is, according to his barrister, of "limited intelligence". I hope that when he comes out of prison, someone feels him worth the time, trouble and effort to work with and help him to turn round the vicious circle of crime he's become involved in.

Goose Green/East Dulwich Road is very quiet, and people are still walking around outside. A few people taking their kids to the play park.

If by "ED park" you mean the one next to Locale/Goose Green, then I can confirm that's completely untrue.

andy1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > sarahstrawberries Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Sally81 Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > KEEP things factual. Twitter is unreliable as > > is > > > any hearsay. For the sake of our community > can > > we > > > please only post about what we have seen with > > our > > > own eyes....don't spread unnecessary fear. > > > > > > I phone Sainsburys 5 minutes ago and they > > confirmed that all customers had been evacuated > > and the store was closed; just the staff to > > leave. This was due to specific advise > received > > which is that there is a mob moving from > > Camberwell through to Peckham. > > > So, in order to keep things factual, you've posted > some facts that you received from a shop worker > who'd heard from his colleague who had heard some > rumours from someone who heard from an > indeterminate and unspecified individual who had > specific intelligence that a gang was heading from > SE5 to SE15. If I was in a mob heading from SE5 > to SE15, I'd take the flat route along Camberwell > Church St myself, rather than trekking up Grove > Lane and Dog Kennel Hill then down the other side > thus threatening Sainsburys on the way. (As you > can tell, I think you're being ridiculous in > posting this nonsense and panicking people for no > good reason). I'm saying what I was told and should have been more specfic: the person I spoke to in Sainsburys said it was POLICE advise they had received, telling them to close the shop. I'm not panicking people. Whether they feel that Sainsburys, or any other shop for that matter, closing is cause to panic - that's up to them.

Sally81 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > KEEP things factual. Twitter is unreliable as is > any hearsay. For the sake of our community can we > please only post about what we have seen with our > own eyes....don't spread unnecessary fear. I phoned Sainsburys 5 minutes ago and they confirmed that all customers had been evacuated and the store was closed; just the staff to leave. This was due to specific advise received which is that there is a mob moving from Camberwell through to Peckham.