jaytyger

You could try the cemetary on Forest Hill Road,turn right as soon as you enter and you will see the CWGC graves and a memorial wall. I believe the name may appear there,the name Duke rings a bell if memory serves me correctly he was a postman or worked for the Post Office. Regards Jason

As a youngster I remember the cinema next to Grove Vale School closing, then being taking over by a religious group who I believe were squatting there, Guru somebody was quite young looking and full faced. In Tintagel there was an old routemaster which belonged to this sect.On both corners of Hindmans, there was I believe a David Griegs and one along Upland Road, opposite was a large hardware store, when Criegs closed I remember, it becoming the Grain store, staffed by those from the cinema, there was also a squat in Hindmans. In Hindmans there was also a boat yard, site of Regs garage with power boats parked up the street on trailers. At the top end of the street, I believe it was Banfields, there was a coach company with a corrugated iron fence that took up the top of the road, Hindmans/Darrel.

Woolworths was a pretty poor comparison to the Peckham Branch, ie it was virtually devoid of stock.

I remember a large toyshop near Icelands.

best wishes

Jaytyger.

I heard Charlie Poole was seen in the Uplands last night?

Does anybody know of any local events around East Dulwich?

Its good to see the little lady outside the post office selling poppies, a big hello my dear and it is also a pleasing sight to see so many people around east dulwich wearing their poppies, a lot more than last year (my own opinion). This Sunday I will be attending the War Memorial at High Wood, St Peters Church with several friends, suited and booted of course. I will also have on my person or car petitions for the Gurkha Campaign, so if anybody in attendance would like to sign please do.To date I have collected over 500 sigs and would like to reach 1000.

On the 15th Nov.Joanna Lumley and co will be meeting at 11.00am at Parliment Square where after walking down Whitehall Joanna would like to hand over 1 million petitions at No 10.

regards

Jaytyger.

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> er, It may seem pedantic but we are asked to

> remember ...I thought the Armistice was the 11th,

> the Sunday nearest the daye is Remembrence Day but

> the 90th anniversary is actually Tuesday...I will

> be wearing mine as always

Armistice day is on the 11th, but who will be standing still at 11,o,clock on Tuesday? Originally the two days were remembered/celebrated but today the sunday seems to suffice. The Armistice was actually supposed to occure at 3.00pm on the 11th of the 11th, so that Lloyd George could announce it after lunch.It was Admiral Sir Roslyn Weyms who was returning from the Turkish armistice, who changed the time to 11,0,clock, believing that 1000,s of lives would be saved. For his trouble the good Admiral would not receive any financial gain/recognition until the late 20,s.

As ww1 is my great interest, I will be especially remembering the 170,000 boy soldiers who died during the great war as well as the fallen from all conflicts since.Wear your poppy with pride, regardless of its colour or size.

regards

jaytyger

Hopefully everybody knows that Sunday the 9th of November marks the 90th Anniversary of the Armistice. I look forward to seing Dulwich ablaze with poppies and I hope everybody attends their local war memorial.

regards

Jaytyger.

As far as I know the 1st Surreys names are on/in St Giles Church as that is where the memorial to the 1st/First Surreys is, as their barracks were in Flodden Road,Camberwell, SE5. The ceremony held each year at St Giles, used to be attended by ex serving members of the FSR but the torch is now held by the FSR Assoc.Which is a non profit making organisation, dedicated to the memory of the FSR.(it costs a couple of pounds to join) They go to High Wood after the 15th because they always attend the service at St Giles. The Fusilers from Tooting attend High Wood every year and lay wreaths and normally take a band for the parade at High Wood.

The 2nd Battalion, 2/21st Battalion County of London Regt.(First Surrey Rifles) did not serve on the Somme, as far as I know, but went from Arras to the Middle East, before being disbanded in 1918, the 1/21st Batt.were disbanded in 1919. The 3/21st was a draft finding Battalion and did not leave Camberwell, also disbanded in 1918.

As a point of interest, ?170,000 would provide 708 Gurkha pensions. Just thought I would throw that into the pot.

Little ol Sun reader me.....

Jaytyger

Thanks for the kind words, monday I collected 100 signatures. But on Tuesday I did read that this had been resolved? I will try and get some more info and if this is not, I will carry on collecting signatures. 1000 was going to be my target, but as a Gurkha,s/or widows pension works out about ?240 a year maybe I will try for 2400 signatures.

regards

jaytyger

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I will be placing several petition forms around Dulwich this week, in the Library, the Palmerston, the Uplands etc. If you feel empassioned about the Gurkha,s plight please add your name.

best wishes

jaytyger.

I used to train upstairs with Bob and Charlie from Mortons Builders, a nice traditional friendly back street pub. Also remember the pub when Tom ran it including Karoake, Djs and Bands, all spoilt by someone living at the rear of the pub. When people buy a house next to a railway line, are they suprised when a train arrives?

For all those interested in project War Memorial how about going one step further.

The 90th Anniversary Tour leaves Dulwich on the 12th September and returns pm on Sunday the 14th. We will be travelling on a midi (26 seats) coach.

Friday will see us on the Somme where we will lay a wreath at High Wood, we will also take in Auchonvillers,Lochnagar,and if possible Thiepval.

Our Hotel (2 nights B&B with cont. breakfast) and base will be Lille, where there is a very reasonable restaraunt near the hotel.

Saturday; Ploegstreet Wood, Bayernwald, Ypres Salient,the Menin Gate.

Sunday; Slow drive to Vimy Ridge, lunch and home in time for a sunday night drink.

for anyone genuinely interested please contact me at [email protected] 07884 162033

The cost of the September trip will be ?250, which includes channel crossing, 2 nights B&B with continental breakfast (2 people sharing) and 3 days of excursions.

nonrefundable deposit of ?100 due by 18th July, with the balance of ?140.00 paid by 15th August, or pay the balance in full and save ?10.00.

looks like the church on Friern Road.

regards jaytyger

As this year marks the 90th anniversary of the Armistice, I am currently planning a weekend trip to The Western Front, probaly around the 2nd weekend in September. We will be visiting the Somme and Wipers, and other places of interest. The price will include coach/ferry travel and 2 nights B&B in Lille,the cost should be around the ?220-230 mark.If anyone is genuinely interested than please contact me asap.regards

jaytyger

Hi Macroban

thanks for the comments. The Golf links were the name given to the Golf club/range opposite the grove or thereabouts. There was also a wooden watch tower there to spot for zeppelins.Lordship Lane Hall was apparently near Wood Vale and was supposed to be quite sumptious as wedding receptions were held there etc. I have read my narrative and cant believe the amount of spelling mistakes I uncovered. oopps!

best wishes to all

jaytyger.

Congratulations to all those involved in project war memeorial

As a WW1 enthusiast and resident of Dulwich I began writing a book on Dulwich and the great war several years ago.

The Dulwich and district Athletic Assoc. became the Dulwich Defence League which eventually became the Dulwich Volunteer Battalion. The idea originated at a meeting held at Lordship Lane Hall Sep 1914 which was for recruitment into Kitcheners New Army, among those chairing were Major Fred Hall our MP. lOCAL Volunteers and they came in hundres were asked

to join the colours and those unable were urged to support the Association.

The Constitutional Club was used as a rifle range, but as the Battalion grew men in different companies would meet nightly at the Golf links where they paraded/drilled. Lectures were held at the Lordship Lane Hall which also doubled as the orderly room. There was a cyclist Co, a signaling Co and eventually (much later on) a boys Corps for preenlistment age, who were paid pocket money. The Battalion band were well known and played across the Borough raising funds for wounded servicemen. They also won several shooting trophies. They also wore the same kit eventually as the Army, which I believe was funded by subs and donationa as the Battalion was self funded. The standard was very high so men who had attested "Derby Men" awaitnging call up could do their basic training with the Battalion.

They have no connection (as far as I know) with the First Surrey Rifles, who dated back to Napoleon time as volunteers, the First Surrey tag comes from 1859 when the Locsal Volunteers enlisted under Queen Victoria, thereby earning the tag The First Surrey Rifles as Dulwich then was in Surrey. In 1908 Lord Haldane and the Lords Lietenants created the Territorial Force so the FSR who were then known as a rifle volunteer corps RVC became overnight a TF Battalion, being renamed the 21st County of London Batt. (The First Surrey Rifles). But the FSR are connected to Dulwich College The OTC officer Training Corps supplied junior officers for the Territorials and the Reserve.

I do not know much about the war memorial at St Peters, but I do know it was used by the Battalion for services etc, the Church that is, there was a rollof honor inside and allegedly a carved wooden war memorial that is supposed to be in Camberwell somewhere.

IN 2006 myself and local people laid 2 wreathes at High Wood to mark the 90th anniverary and everyear according to numbers I take a small coach to the Western Front. This year Armistice year I will definately going sometime.

The FSR are also remembered by the FSR Assoc. who visit the Somme yearly and also at St Giles Church where they lay a wreath.

Have we forgotten yet? asked Siegfried Sasson. No!

The Dulwich Volunteer Battalion originally the Dulwich and District Athletic Assoc.then the Dulwich Defence league originated from a meeting held in Sep 1914 at Lordship Lane Hall. They never went overseas but grew into a highly organised battalion. Probaly disbanded in 1919.