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I know - quite the surprise from someone with Jazzer's illustrious track-record "ah - did I touch a raw nerve"? you see the GLEE with which some people can view horrors in the world and how others empathise? I don't think jazzer is a troll. But I do think yer average person underestimates quite how many genuinely bitter and twisted people exist in the wider population. A troll is someone who pretends to adopt a position to wind others up. Other people genuinely hold grim beliefs and enjoy watching people recoil from them
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I would say Franco Manca had a few branches long before the East Dulwich one - that one took ages to open because of all the interior work they had to do to the old Black Cherry/Draft House layout When I walk past Bill's in Lewes now it still looks like the original Bill's - but I would never go in there as it is in no way "local" now - just the same overpriced, under flavoured stodge they have rolled out across the country (that being said, the East Dulwich one has been there 10 years now - blimey. Time, eh?) Looking at random FM locations on streeview, 2015 seems to be the year they exploded everywhere (ED included)
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In restaurant terms I would say a chain manifests when the motivation is no longer “we are a couple/small group who have an idea and love food” who open a restaurant, them another and then a few more BUT THEN PIVOT to “we need capital to rollout out new restaurants so we have leveraged the help of the following investors” that is the moment it stops being about the chef/food on the plate and becomes about the spreadsheet so it is POSSIBLE for a restaurant to have 50 branches and not be a chain - but I can’t think of any I don’t know chango - by based on the number of outlets they appear to have just crossed/or are about to cross that line
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Not sure what you mean by that ive heard your arguments many many times and the numbers are the numbers and the voting system is the voting system and corbyn voted to keep it and lost massively in the election so where are we differing? Where are we at cross-purposes?
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Sue. You really don’t have to keep saying about the electoral system a) we all know about it b) it doesn’t matter FPTP is the system we have always had and hopefully we will get rid of it someday but it is what it is when anyone suggests changing the system Corbyn is right there at the front of the queue to prevent it so its pointless him or any of supporters complaining about it the evidence you want is the result of the elections. You can’t have clearer evidence.
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"Sep, you don't even live here." ???
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"You have no idea why" To be fair Sue, it's blindingly obvious to anyone who has a conversation with anyone who isn't a Corbyn supporter. And even some who liked Corbyn (like me initially) found him somewhat flaky even at his most popular But let's say you are right and I have NO idea why anybody might not vote for him. They still didn't vote for him. He lost two elections. The second one badly (and strongly predicted but the stubborn old goat wouldn't budge so we we were stuck with Johnson and another 3 million PMs in the 5 years that followed) So even with ZERO evidence, we have our eyes and ears and brains But we do have evidence https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/27022-their-own-words-why-voters-abandoned-labour
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I’m basing it on the fact that Jeremy Corbyn had repeatedly and on record said he is against mandatory vaccinations in any situation, and he wouldn’t disclose wether he had the Covid vaccine himself as I said. Not as bad as his brother but very definitely a bit weird about the whole thing. Just say you had the vaccination Jeremy, say that everyone should and stop being weird in the middle of a global pandemic it’s the same slippery evasive nonsense about Brexit and him. About Putin poisonings and him. if you are happy with his evasiveness then you do you. But there is a reason the country wouldn’t get behind him
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ok - Jeremy himself is against mandatory vaccines. Is he as extreme as his brother? No? Is it fair to discuss how the overall view of that family would inform Jeremy's response to the pandemic? I would argue very much so
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if I think of Corbyn dealing with a global pandemic (a lot of his supporters and some of his family come from the woo end of the spectrum - his brother is a proper anti-vax nut), then the invasion of Ukraine (Corbyn long record of not exactly condemning Putin even as he killed people on British soil and many other matters, I really do shudder
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You literally just edited your earlier reply to remove the point you made about it being “politicians”. Then you call me pathetic. I’m not trying to say you approve any of the ugly right wing nonsense. But I AM Saying your earlier post suggesting violent rhetoric being “left wing” was one-sided and incorrect
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You don’t think there are right-wing politicians fanning this with rhetoric? Really?
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latest unhelpful far left energy oh no, wait… https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jul/20/police-warn-inflammatory-online-posts-clashes-essex-asylum-hotel?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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Coordinated posts intended to mould opinions and silence debate
Sephiroth replied to LordshipPain's topic in The Lounge
I’m beginning to think YOU are an AI agent at this point would be less troubling than you actually believing all this stuff
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