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The Dutch already dissect and nerdily define types of cycles and powered cylces via the Fiets / Snorfiets / Bromfiets types.
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Look forward to your understanding of where a unrestricted electric moped that is a fat bike fits into the Fiets / Snorfiets / Bromfiets hierarchy. Ah, but it doesn't, as in the Netherlands unlike in the uk they're not currently defined by law (but banned from uk streets) - which is why you see them being sold in shops in the Museumkwartier to teenagers. thats what they are campaigning for - restricting these newer higher speed, throttle controlled mini mopeds that teenagers are getting into as currently you need no mot, license, helmet like you do for the fiets above.
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Ah, but that adult onset asthma isn't?
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Isn't the point of the second article but that Ella was the first child (and the first person) in the UK to have her cause of death listed as air pollution and principally 'traffic emissions'? https://www.judiciary.uk/prevention-of-future-death-reports/ella-kissi-debrah/ so slightly more than 'children get asthma' and hence why the coroner wrote the Report to Prevent Future Deaths with points of action for: 1. Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, Defra 2. Department for Transport 3. Department of Health and Social Care 4. Mayor of London 5. Transport for London 6. London Borough of Lewisham 7. General Medical Council 8. Health Education England 9. Nursing and Midwifery Council 10. Royal College of Physicians 11. Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health 12. Royal College of General Practitioners 13. NICE 14. British Thoracic Society
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Whilst procrastinating yesterday, i wrote this and then remembered its a pointless task albeit occasionally a fun one highlighting rockets' fallacious comments. Facts don't become facts when you state suppositions on the east dulwich forum. We have first hand commentary from someone there yesterday pointing out that its not the nightmare that you describe. It wasn't a nightmare when i was there this year, nor in the 20 years I've regularly visited. Is it better than before the 'stop the child murder' campaign in the 70s? Measurably yes. Is it voted as one of the best cities in the world? Regularly yes for quality of life, sustainability and livability. People with physical disabilities are more frequently citing cobbles, bridges and stairs as an access barrier than a cycling culture, as reducing car traffic can make public spaces safer. it still ranks well as a walkable city. A city centre whose population has grown almost 30% and has a massive boom in tourism in the last twenty years might anticipate some overcrowding of paths and roads. You made what you think is a gotcha statement of 'the potential banning of e-bikes, cargo bikes, fat tyre bikes etc in bike lanes is being considered for the whole of Amsterdam - in fact a number of cities in the Netherlands are considering similar bans.' Which i pointed out is not what you want it to be. Commercial cycle vehicles, and motor powered vehicles are being returned to the main roads to accommodate the vast number of children, families and older people on cycle paths. Those main roads have generally less vehicles on them. Thats's logical - and reflective of an approach trying to catch up with technology and levels of use. When we get to that level of adoption here, i'm sure the same things will be discussed. Fat bikes (electric motorbikes) and 4 wheeler cargo bikes belong away from more vulnerable users for a variety of reasons. But they're not being banned from existing, or from using roads, they're just applying a hierarchy of cycle paths users. Nb. fat bikes are currently illegal in the uk if they have a throttle and/or aren't required to be pedal assisted to move.
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We've been through this. Amsterdam and other dutch cities are not looking to ban ebikes. They’re looking to move things like e-cargo bikes used for logistics onto the main roads. they're also looking to move faster cycles / fatbikes and scooters to the main roads so bike paths are available to all users. Subsidies for cargo bikes from the government increased there in 2025.
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Don't you ever cross a road when walking on the pavement, pragmatically?
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😃 You really have self - destructed any reputation you might have had on here over the last few days - and this post is a perfect example. You’re so annoyed that your googled / PistonHeads - sourced Get Out of Jail Free card didn’t work with Southwark, and that they politely told you to sling your hook, that you now can’t even consider the possibility that the traffic regulations for that bus lane actually distinguish between cutting into a lane early (and getting caught "turning left' on a sharp turn) to enter Overhill versus crossing a bus lane to access parking bays, shops or homes. Southwark’s bus lane orders - like TfL’s - probably include the standard exemption that allows vehicles to cross a bus lane for legitimate access to premises. Traffic planners might have thought of this - otherwise people with cars living on bus lands would be fined getting into their homes every day - but do keep telling us how you’ve uncovered a grand conspiracy by planners who understand road design better than you, and might not just be bearing a grudge!
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Yesterday at noon: "as there will be an economic impact of slowing traffic - regardless of whether TFL claims that there are "negligible" impacts on journey times "
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"nonsense claims that 30mph on the Westway was because of ageing infrastructure" "Speed limit restriction The speed limit was reduced in July 2020 from 40mph to 30mph along the entire stretch of the Westway between the A40 Northern roundabout to the west and Marylebone flyover to the east. Slowing the speed helps protect and extend the life of the ageing expansion joints in the road until they can be replaced. This makes it less likely we'll have to close parts of the Westway for unplanned works." from https://tfl.gov.uk/travel-information/improvements-and-projects/a40-westway
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