I understand what you're saying, but shouldn't you at least try???? If the manager is unwilling to listen, then obviously you take it further. At least then you know that you've done everything possible to come to an amicable solution. In answer to your question woody, it was late evening. from around 10pm till 1am. I'm not unsympathetic to your prediciment, but i just think you should try to be reasonable before bulldozing in with all guns blazing. If the manager doesn't know that you have a problem with the noise, how is he suppose to appease you??? It's very difficult to control noise pollution once patrons have left your premises.