paco

23 hours ago, eastdulwichproperty said:

Well done Councillor McAsh for standing up in front of this angry mob, he was one of the few sensible people in the room. His calm and reasoned responses were well presented in very hostile circumstances. Several people asked 'why this was happening?' and clearly hadn't understood the problem that was trying to be solved. The attached document 'Foreword' section summarises the overall problem clearly and concisely. I'm sure that there are many more people that would have spoken up in favour of the plans if the meeting hadn't degenerated into an angry shouting match (I say match but of course all the shouting was in one direction), it would take a brave person to stand up to that. Through all the shouting I didn't actually hear anything sensible or constructive from the opposition, what is their solution to the problem?

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Unfortunately, some people didn't contribute in a constructive way - speaking over others wasn't useful.

Did you speak up and say anything sensible or constructive?

Maybe consider why people were angry.

The Council want to impose the CPZ and constructed the meeting so that people wouldn't get the opportunity to see how others felt.

This is not consultation. It's a con and it's insulting.

I don't think Councillor McAsh's responses were well presented at all.

1 hour ago, Stuka said:

It wasn't a small minority. It was the vast majority. Cllr McCash was constantly shouted at, heckled and interrupted. He was sworn at and compared to the Nazis. I lost count of the number of times he had to say something like "I will try answer all your questions but I can't if people are going to continue to shout and talk over me." He kept is calm throughout and continued to try and answer people. 

Yes it was a small minority. A few people kept speaking over others. This was annoying.

The majority of people waited their turn to speak. 

The Councillor didn't really address some of the questions asked and clearly didn't want an open meeting in the first place!

9 hours ago, Rockets said:

Paco, how many people were there?

 

The only thing the council will listen to is a concerted barrage of noise telling them how wrong they are and how this is not a consultation, nor do they have a mandate to impose this. The last consultation was equivocal, Dulwich residents did not want CPZs and until such time as they run a consultation that allows you to oppose it then the last consultation results should carry over.

 

What they are doing is utterly undemocratic and very un-Labour and could have serious ramifications for their political careers - if enough people rally against them and make them realise that the people are against them.

Power to the People and all that!

I would guess around 100 - 120 people.

In other boroughs there have been court cases.

This is only a done deal if we all roll over.

I agree - their legacy will be a loss of trust in the Labour Party.

I saw the look of shame on one Councillor's face as he left the building. 

On 14/07/2023 at 01:23, CPR Dave said:

I think this is a done deal tbh, 

It's a shame because it will push up house prices even more and squeeze poor people out of the area, further consolidating East Dulwich as an enclave for the rich upper classes.

Hope for the sake of the people behind this policy that those kind of residents believe in the "equality" mission and keep on voting Labour.,

It is only a done deal if people roll over and accept it.

Other boroughs have taken court action 

On 16/07/2023 at 00:16, modernMajorGeneral said:

You are correct; in the council's eyes, they are doing this. That is not a reason to lie down and accept this position. The council is wrong and behaving undemocratically. We must tell them.

Hi everyone, we formed a group in Nunhead and Queens Road to oppose the council's introduction of a CPZ. We now want to expand our remit to push back on the whole ridiculous policy across the whole borough. If we can get the whole borough to demand that the council revert to its 2018 position, where CPZs were put in on when local residents requested it in response to parochial parking challenges, then we may have a chance to win.

They can ignore the protestations from each group. Can they really ignore the whole borough? Please come and join us on https://opposethecpz.org, and anyone who is able to bring their time, effort and skills to the team, do get in touch.

Also, spread the word. Tell everyone. 

Thanks,

Richard.

Thanks for this information Richard.

I hope others get involved - I will.

I have just returned from a consultation meeting on the Streets For People' at the Church in Barry Road.

When I arrived, people were queuing outside the Church - the reason was that they had to wait their turn to sit in small groups to chat with a Councillor.

It is clear that this was designed to avoid an open discussion on the imposition of a controlled parking zone (CPZ) in East Dulwich.

It was also clear that the majority of people attending the meeting were not in favour of such 'divide and rule' tactics - and we ended up having an open meeting.

I am shocked that a Labour Council could stoop so low as to treat the people they represent with such contempt and shocked that Labour Councillors would participate in such an exercise.

We were told that it had been made clear on the website/eventbrite that this was how the meeting would be held - I have just looked, to see this is patently not the case - see screenshots.

One Councillor stated there has not been any consultation on whether people want a CPZ - the views of the people they represent aren't courted - the  Council knows best.

This is at odds with the website that says:

"Why your views matter

We want your views on the Streets for People proposal in your area. In particular we want your input on what days and hours you would prefer the controlled parking to operate - it is important to answer these questions even if your own preference is not to have controlled parking."

Why tell us our views matter and the pretence of consultation if this has already been decided?

Only one person at the meeting said they were in favour of the CPZ- by a show of hands.

Others had left by this point - in disgust.

I had hoped to be convinced that this would be a beneficial thing for East Dulwich, but the Councillor failed to make the case for imposing a CPZ.

This amounts to meddling by the Council.

If the majority of people are in favour (or don't care), so be it.

There is no guarantee that this can be stopped, but the only way there is any chance of stopping this is if enough people object to this.
Perhaps those of us who feel the same way could get together and consider what action we can take.

Shall we roll over or kick off?

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I heard some techie talking about this...

Do you like the idea!? :)

Don't know JohnL... Possibly. Do you mean re; criminal activity?

Sorry snoopy17 missed your message.

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It's faster

Is a requirement for SMART tech - it means that you would be able to turn your kettle on without having to get up, run your bath whilst you are travelling home etc etc. Think they are talking about it be used for cars- driverless..

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