Johnny Dulwich

Abe I don't know where the cars come from. I guess they just return from wherever their owners have temporarily moved them to because they didn't want to pay for permits when the CPZ first comes in. But then after a while they relent to it and just pay. Where do you think all the cars that are here at the moment are going to go? Look at any other London borough and talk to people who have experienced it.

Worldwiser, You'll be rejoicing for about 6 months and then it'll be just like it is now. Talk to anyone who's been through this in any other London borough. The only problem is once you realise this it'll be too late because even though you still won't be able to park, you'll be paying ?125 for the pleasure and every time someone comes to visit you they'll get a ticket.

Yes well said Rockets, of course this is just an earner for the council despite what they claim. I can't believe they're using some scheme from Philadelphia to build a case for their CPZ proposal. The pictures in their leaflet of clusters of chairs in the middle of the road supposedly called "parklets" were hilarious. If you intoduce CPZs there will be more space for the first few months but then after a few months you're back to square one. Only difference is you're now paying to park on a bit of the road you're already paying for with your road tax. And it's forever! So obviously there are costs to install the posts, signage and white line at the start, but once you've paid for them it's a money machine. You have thousands of residents paying ?125 a year, a massive increase in parking tickets, pay by phone parking and visitor permits. I still don't see why residents should have to pay at all, let the parking tickets and visitors permits fund the running costs. It might take longer to make up the start up cost but if this is actually for our benefit so what? Anyway, forums are one thing but we must all make sure that we fill out the surveys and return them.

My heart sank when I saw this. While we all struggle to park sometimes I think this is preferrable to the beaurocracy of the dreaded "Controlled Parking Zone!" It even sounds like something lifted straight from communist rhetoric, what's next, "Controlled Working Zones?" Ok I'm being facetious but everyone I know who has voted for or had a CPZ system imposed on them has regretted it afterwards. The initial decrease in parked car is extremely short lived and then you're back where you started except that you have to pay ?125 a year for the pleasure and deal with all the accidentally incorrectly issued parking tickets. It's also embarrassing when the parents stop by on an impromptu visit to see the grand kids and end up getting a ticket. Do you really want Parking Officers marching up and down your road taking photos of cars, doling out misery wherever possible? I don't see why we have to pay either. As residents the permits should be free, the increased revenue the council will receive in parking tickets would easily pay for some line painting and for some signposts. Please don't be fooled in to believing that the council need your ?125 to fund this folly. if 4000 cars apply for permits it comes to half a million pounds and this figure is paid every 12 months. Are they going to put new signposts up and repaint the lines every year? Of course not, it's a cash cow that just keeps paying out. How much do you think it actually costs to put up some signposts and to paint the white lines? Please please object to this...

We've just had our van robbed in Underhill Road this morning. A group of men in a white car reg BV06 GZO were seen carrying out the crime. We reported it to the police and this is the second one by this vehicle in Dulwich today.

I really hope this doesn't amount to anything as I've heard threats like this before which seemingly went away. Last summer I attended a fundraiser day there to counter a closure threat which disappointingly wasn't that well attended. The playground is an amazing place and without wishing to sound too sentimental it really takes me back to my childhood when things weren't so horribly over regulated. My kids (and everyone else's who go there) love the place and can't get enough of it, they can literally spend a whole day there and not get bored. We must keep a collective eye on this because once things like an Adventure playground go, they're gone. You can't recreate them again later.