Kingy

Rosemary & Thyme eat your heart out

this is all wrong - wrong wrong wrong - face to face real - this is wrong - you know where i will be and you know who I am cos I post the gigs on here - it's not a 'forum' it's a bulletin board - there's the gig - take it or leave it - full stop you would get more people to go to a gig round here these days if it was affiliated to a knitting/crochet club

what Otta said

Bass - 70-y-o Vox/guitar - 67-y-o violin - 58-y-o sax/harp - 58-y-o drums - 58-y-o guitar - 55-y-o guitar - 46-y-o all playing from the age of 16 tops

Hoopers ?

Dear Sue - collectively my band has around 250 years worth of gigging experience (yes 250 years) - when you have that amount of experience behind you (rather than maybe 20-30 gigs a year) then perhaps you will be in a position to tell me when or when not to pass the hat/jug at a gig. It has always been that if the gig is free entry, then the jug is passed, if it's a pay to get in fee then it isn't passed - from the 60's to the present day. Jamie Hooper did not organise the gig, I did, Jamie wanted Miller to play his pub and Miller wanted to play with the band, and a fee was agreed, where i was running at a slight loss in any case and it was agreed that the hat would be passed. Jamie Hooper paid ?50 less than the agreed fee and furthermore deducted the hat money off the lesser fee, he then proceeded to tell me that he had never agreed the fee in the first place, which at best was mistaken then an outright lie. The guy at The Cherry Tree offered the full money every night, on the one occasion it was quiet I offered to take a drop in the money, which I would have done at Hooper's if it had been quiet, which it wasn't, and if Jamie hooper hadn't been so slippery - and as far as I know Jamie Hooper is a member of this forum and can speak for himself if he can get over his shame. We aren't playing the cherry tree any more as it is not financially viable for hem to pay us what we need, no falling out. With regard to HankDog charging performers to play, just because everybody else does it doesn't make it right, I've promoted gigs for over 35 years and I've always payed performers, if your happy to live with it then go ahead, I'm not so I won't

Er, Sue...er I did not introduce the subject of Hooper's to that thread - I commented on it after somebody else had introduced it and I believe I also said this was not the place to discuss it after you had asked for an explanation, quote - 'I agree that this is no place for it but you asked for it' unquote - but of course you will be right and I will be wrong, because you are always right, even though the logic you have about charging musicians to play is not actually charging them to play stumps me, you are probably right about that as well Jamie Hooper knocked me, he welshed on a deal and lied about it - and he did it in a slippery and underhand way. I am glad his tin pot pub has closed down, the people at The Cherry Tree, despite their obvious problems with some members this board, and you in particular, paid in full, every time, even though they were losing money on the deal. It's not a pub I had ever been in before and everybody from the chattering classes gave me 'warnings' about it - but I didn't have any problem with them Excuse me, Jesus - or is it God - you only see what you choose to see and disregard the rest, maybe you have both fingers stuck in your ears

Get To F*** straffer ....get back to yer chattering classes - Sue posted the thing about Hoopers so I replied and said it wasn't the right place, she asked for it - an d I think it's the Golden Lion not the red lion - and Tommy Cooper was a chunt

Have to say we (The Prisonaires) played The Cherry Tree about 4 times recently and never had a problem with anybody there - apart from the viability of getting a full house in there - people who were there seemed to like it a lot - however I agree with KK - get this back on OP topic please- you can pick holes in any pub/management team if you have half a mind to

it's better to play to strangers than to friends and family - honest - will try to get something together but venue is a problem, poss upstairs at edt or the football club - will be in touch

Tim Roth ?

wot jeremy said - and I'll come and see your band as well if you let me know when you are playing :-)

?4.90 for a lager the other day - I can get good german/austrian beer for ?4.50 a pint on LL - each to his own - they aren't going to attract 'drinkers' at those prices , those who spent ?150-?200 pw on booze - the local tradesmen who meet up for session beers etc - as I said I am not the one who is price sensitive - most of the people I know are

lower the beer prices - you really really are in argumentative mode Sue (just for a change :-))- the goose is not the ivy house - the goose is the goose people are not going to be happy paying those beer prices on top of an entry fee - if it was free entertainment and the pub were paying the act then people wouldn't mind paying a premium on the beer prices but it's a back street boozer and it has high street prices at the moment and I beg to differ with your reasoning of not charging people to play - it's wrong full stop

We did a great gig in the Castle the other month, but they don't really have the budget for 'gigs' they have some very average irish cover performers in there once a month on a sunday (1st ?) - the acoustics in there are great but they pay a lot for sports/sky tv for the regulars so you have to fit in around it - shame The Ivy House will have to lower their prices to get people in, I'm not that price sensitive myself but nearly everybody I know that props up bars is and Hank Dog certainly did charge performers back at the Nun's Head when he was there - I think it was ?5 for audience and ?3 for players

I likes it - the beer is good and the staff are friendly - Stiegl me, Steigl

I got a group and Dulwich is a musical wasteland

GTF - the hat part was part of the deal - lying cheating dick - full stop - and that's a full stop and I agree that this is no place for it but you asked for it - quel surprise put in fricking writing and get lawyer involved - a deal is a deal is a deal and the guy was a to55pot , it's easy for an 'organiser' to say but when you just want to play you just want to play but you need to get paid what you have agreed

but the beer is too damn expensive . full stop (that's a full stop)

OK Sue - you asked for it - Jamie Hooper booked the band in December 2011 and he wanted Miller to play with the band and a fee was agreed - after the band had played, and the 'jug' was passed round, Jamie Hooper asked how much was in the jug and then deducted it off the 'agreed fee', which ad now suddenly been reduced by ?50 - he then proceeded to tell me that the 'agreed fee' was not the 'agreed fee' (I know how much I pay for Miller to come up from Brighton to play these gigs) - if that doesn't make him a knob then I don't know what does, and yes if he had been ten years younger I would probably have 'clumped' him there and then, the man couldn't run a pi55 up in a brewery - hence his pub has now closed, serves the bu55er right if you ask me with regards to the Draught House - it's alright by me, great german / austrian beers and it's better than paying ?5.20 for a pint of Hoegaarden in the Gowlett

'Hoopers closed for good on Xmas Day and it certainly wasn't spit and sawdust. It was a very nice pub with a great selection of ales and a fairly good selection of wine. There was good music there and the comedy nights were fun. Damn that neighbour. I miss it.' but the knob running it was a damn fool

following last week's aquarius music festival The Prisonaires return to the Cherry Tree this saturday 7th September 2013 - 9:30 til 12:00 free entry Bobby Valentino - violin Tony Reeves - bass Mike Paice - sax & harp Les Morgan - drums Martin Brown - guitar Dr King - guitar (musicans who have worked with :- Bob Dylan, Tom Petty, Mark Knopfler, Bert Jansch, DJohn Mayall's Bluesbreakers, John Martyn, Davey Graham, Sandy Denny, Alan Hull, Curved Air, Greenslade, Jo-Anne Kelly Band, Big Country, TMTCH etc, etc, etc) and it's FREE to get in

The Prisonaires are playing at The Cherry Tree (Grove Vale) this coming saturday 7th september 9:30 til 12 - free entry

Cars on College Road regularly get 'rifled' - seen dodgy types trying the locks on cars on several occasions and have rung police and they always turn up, but always a little bit too late

Did you cry ?