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Because of the way Underhill Road was developed (the name refers, by the way, to the former local manor owners and is not related to the topological Overhill Road) the land South of Barry Road was sold off in small plots, which means that the architectural design of houses normally covers only 2-3 groups of semi's. This gives a great variety to the street, and I believe adds to its charm. Most of the development took place from about 1860 - 1914 - newer builds reflect either war-damage infill or later sales and subdivisions. One house (which had a very sad past - and structural damage) was torn down and a modern replacement built in the last 15 years. Otherwise the only recent new-builds have been on former garage or builder's merchants sites (or as a replacement for post-war pre-fabs).

There is a small parade of shops in Woodvale at the Langton rise junction - including an excellent butcher's (best in ED in my opinion), a small newsagent/ tobacconist and a 'corner shop' grocers where there is a (very limited) choice of fresh vedge. The P13 (which now runs more frequently down Underhill) will take you to the main shops in Lordship Lane and thence East Dulwich station (to London Bridge) or (the other way) close to West Dulwich Station (Victoria). Walking down to Lordship Lane/London Road (i.e. broadly south-west) will get you to stops for the 176 and 185 buses, which you can also pick up from the Lordship Lane/ Whately Road end (Whately Road is the extension of Underhill into the Goose Green end of Lordship lane, as opposed to the London Road end. The 12 runs along Barry Road. The 363 (N63 at night) will take you from Woodvale to Elephant and the tubes there, the 63 itself runs all the way to to Kings Cross, but only starts (day services) just passed the cemetery entrance in Forest Hill Road. Honor Oak Park (or Forest Hill) are both within 20 minutes walk - and will get you onto a separate route (from East Dulwich Station) into London Bridge or the Orange Line (Overground). The hilliness locally means that use of a bicycle will be, well, invigorating.

That way motor traffic would have Barry and Underhill to get between Peckham Rye and Lorship Lane. More than enough and then we wouldn't have all the rat running that plagues that area. Oh, thanks, as someone who lives in Underhill you are planning to get all the rat-running past my front door (and no doubt take the share of it away from yours)

It's a shame they aren't prepared to close it entirely as a through route for motor traffic. There are precious few ways of getting in or out of Lordship Lane into and out of the roads that lie broadly north-east of it there - any one being blocked puts a lot of pressure on the others. Proper 2 way routes are now only Friern, Upland, Underhill and Woodvale. Coming from Forest Hill along London Road and Lordship Lane it is now only possible to get (legally) to that part of East Dulwich via Honor Oak Road and then Overhill - all other roads are either illegal to turn into, blocked-off or one-way the wrong way. Coming from Sydenham, Overhill is the first legal turn you get to. Channeling that traffic into Friern, Upland or Barry (particularly when these routes take you away from where you actually want to be) would be very unhelpful. For people who live in Overhill accessing it (if coming along Lordship lane or London Road) would require, again, a significant diversion through other small streets. No existing routes are ideal, to remove yet another would simply add further pressures to those that remain.

My guess would be that the power outage tripped an 'off' switch locally, presumably as a safety mechanism, which needs re-setting - presumably, again, manually - so until Virgin gets someone out here to do that power will remain down for their service.

He really is the last of an old style bobby - regularly saw him walking the patch - on his own actual feet! - and he seemed to know people around here, who knew him. And a real bobby, not a PCO. He was really helpful when my daughter's car was stolen (and then found, abandoned, locally). I am very afraid we won't see his like again.

Do you live in rented accommodation? There is now a requirement for landlords to test for Legionnaires Disease vulnerability. It maybe that this has been subcontracted to Thames Water.

I suspect the Lib Dems were stuffed in Dulwich for the same reason they were stuffed across the country - people were polarised wanting either a conservative or a socialist (Lab/ SNP) government. We had all been led to believe that further coalition was likely and the Lib Dems had indicated that they could ally with either the conservatives or the socialists. That meant that in voting for them you couldn't know whether that would make a conservative or a socialist government more likely. If you lent more to Tory, or to Labour, then voting Lib Dem was voting for an unknown, you could be left leaning and make a Tory led coalition more possible, or right leaning and find the Lib Dems allying with Labour. So that forced electors to go for the main party of their choice - even if they would have preferred either a Labour government tempered by Lib Dem views, or a Tory one ditto. Because the Lib Dems tried to ride both horses, they found themselves riding neither. Frankly the quality and reputation of the actual candidates wasn't relevant - hence we saw great constituency MPs being knocked down. If the Lib Dems had been clear about where their sympathies lay they would certainly have lost seats, but not nearly as many. Clearly they upset their more left leaning electors by working in coalition for the last 5 years, but had they stuck to their guns their former Tory sympathisers might well have stuck to them. Or vice versa. By keeping their negotiating powder dry they found themselves with nothing to negotiate for.

There are two issues about city centres - one they tend to have a mix of younger people, idealists, left-wing, well educated, together with a residue of 'traditional' working class. These are more likely to support Labour (and socialism more generally - see 'Scotland') Two - these constituencies are often small(er) than rural ones (population, not area) so there are more of them. So a smaller electorate can elect more MPs (per 100,000 head of population), which tends to exaggerate the first effect mentioned above. That is what the electoral reforms which the Lib Dems scuppered in the last parliament were about addressing. What is interesting is the effect you mention has only worked for Labour this time in London - basically Labour won London, Conservatives won the rest of England, Scots Nats won Scotland, Labour won Wales and the DUP won Ulster. Bit of a divided country, if you're thinking of the UK as a country.

In case anyone's interested http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14000673

Yes exactly - except acts of God obviously. so, no such things as accidents except, well, accidents. Root cause analysis does, occasionally, come up with chance occurrences - such as heart attacks etc. It is a system designed to uncover what caused an 'accident' - so that avoidable elements can in future be avoided, but it does not require that all elements should be classifiable as avoidable. Of course actions have causes, but 'no such thing as an accident' implies (requires to imply) that the cause can never be a matter of chance or happenstance. In many cases random chance is called to account when proper analysis would show underlying fault, but not in every case, and as an analysis requirement. Sh1t (acts of god) does happen.

In general 'no such thing as an accident' implies that all incidents could have been avoided - and thus implicitly that if someone had done (or not done) something differently then the 'accident' would have been avoided. This is (by another route) an attempt to apportion blame to someone for the incident happening. 'No such thing as an accident' has as an absolute corollary 'someone is culpable'. At one level it is of course possible to argue that every thing that happens has a cause - but for instance to argue (as logically he must) that the deaths in Nepal are not accidental (although clearly with a direct cause) would be weird. If wind brings down a tree onto a car it is possible to argue that had the tree been felled earlier, then the 'accident' would not have happened - or if the driver had not chosen to drive then or there - but to blame the driver for the incident, or indeed council officials for not felling the tree (unless it had been specifically reported as 'dangerous') would be unreal. And yet, 'no such thing as an accident' would require this. It is wholly lazy to argue that because some accidents could have been avoided (were not the outcome of chance events) that the set of 'accidents' (implying something that happens by unhappy chance) is an empty one.

Concorde used to fly over our house, around 6:00 in the evening as I recall, such a beautiful sight, certainly forgave it every decibel as it went over (and that was loud)

No such thing as an accident. This is a zen idea that everything has a cause and a link - such that the effects of random chance are denied. So, if any incident happens, it must have had a cause - this espouses the physics of Newton, whilst modern scientists accept that quantum mechanics requires that events have a probability only, and will happen 'by chance' (and, more to the point, given any fixed starting position, events are still impossible to accurately forecast - whereas Newtonian physics believes that given certain knowledge of a start point, it would be possible to forecast events through to the end of time). In terms of road transport it is a belief that it will always be possible to apportion blame, anything bad that happens must be someone's fault. So we see in James someone wedded to a blame culture - which in many ways is quite sad.

It's just a typo - the left the 's' out of hostel

Neat the way we get a cinema where the 'best' bus for many would be the P13 to see it diverted away from the cinema almost as soon as it opens. Taken with the continuing chaos around London Bridge and the completely laughable disruption around the Elephant for 176 and 63/ 363 users - and many others (the buses no longer even reach part of the tube at Elephant) - the bit that the buses are now barred from actually isn't being worked on, and probably won't for months, but still a full 15+ month closure is enforced - and you might think that the public authorities are out to punish this bit of Southwark for being, well, this bit of Southwark.

HelBel65 and indiepanda are both referring to Camberwell Old Cemetery - the New one isn't on Underhill, Langton or Woodvale. Which isn't to say more entrances wouldn't be useful there as well, but the thread seems to be concerned about a different cemetery.

The 'opening weekend' (17th-19th April) is a soft opening for 'members' - the cinema opens to the general public, as I understand it, in the following week. As you all know, we've been on an incredible journey to bring this cinema into being. Unfortunately we're just a hair's breadth away from having the building ready for our planned opening date. We will open to the public on Thursday 23 April. The good news is that we will be opening exclusively to our ever-patient Founder Members for the weekend of Friday 17 ? Sunday 19 April.

To answer ruffers, 'no, not at all'. Indeed helpful people clearing skips means that the householder can throw more away, hence getting greater value for money out of his/ her skip hire. The problem, surely, is in entering premises and removing objects not being put out for disposal (which includes making bold decisions about building materials not actually locked away) - which is what the OP was complaining about. It may have been the same people who did both, but skip trawling is entirely OK in my book, indeed, in the sense that goods are being recycled and not land-filled, skip trawling is wholly commendable.

If I (or my children) had been weeding a public street tree pit (where dogs regularly pee, and then some) I would certainly be getting them (and me) to wear gloves or at the least to thoroughly wash my hands afterwards (and not lick them!) - regardless of what chemicals the council might have thought about spraying.

Over 20 years ago I walked into Herne Hill Station in the morning with a large rat pacing me on the pavement as I walked, almost like a dog on a lead. Somewhat disconcerting.

Agreed, reversing in and driving out is my preferred choice - and I knew that you did realise the impact of all this - it was just for emphasis - nonetheless it does say '(and in most instances) enter'... they clearly do not think of the meaning of what they write, and in regulations too - and the elected councilors and cabinet members who are meant to oversee this are slipshod, careless or stupid. Possibly all three.

agreements with the Borough Solicitor agreeing and undertaking to ...to exit (and in most instances) enter the Vehicle Crossing in forward gear You do realise that this would require cars to have sufficient space to turn right-around in the parking space to both enter and exit facing front (or have a railway style turntable installed). This is clearly madness, and perverse madness at that. Anyone subsequently buying a house with a dropped kerb, as I did, would have not been such a signatory, and unless the deeds were changed to make this some form of restrictive covenant (they won't have been) unenforceable. This convinces me that the Southwark people purporting to be in charge of this are either mad, or bad, or (probably) both.

The moths themselves are pretty harmless, save as potential parents, it is the grubs/ caterpillars which cause the damage. Killing existing grubs and then discouraging adult moths from laying more eggs are your two remedies, and you need to follow both. The eggs (and grubs) can last a long time, the grubs can even survive without eating - so constant vigilance is a watchword. If you have organic insulation in your loft, then you have created a constant banquet site.

This is a classic mistake of correlation for causation. Waitrose locate its stores in areas where their demographic live (as does Aldi) - so the high value houses probably cause Waitrose - Waitrose does not cause high value houses. In fact (as those who have complained about a possible M&S in the Iceland site show), too close location to a store, of whatever variety, can be problematic, with visitor and delivery traffic etc. Edited to say - cross posted with above