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sally buying Wrote:
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> At the end of the meeting what was the result.
> Going ahead or not? or more meetings
Going ahead!
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Absolutely agree Matttee. It was a long old session but it needed to be and it was heavy on the scrutiny.
Let's all come together and make this work for everyone now.
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Knowing Ben quite well, he does not really do 'grumpy'.
He has however patiently and diligently answered all the questions that been asked over and over again (despite his answers not being accepted by some) so maybe you are getting 'grumpy' mixed up with 'exasperated'.
Thanks for your input Ben. It is appreciated.
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Discussed at length here with directors of the club commenting and answering questions
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TLDR;
If we do not get the planning permission this will be the last of your 25 years supporting the club as it simply will not exist without it.
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There is a full post and a large amount of discussion on it here
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School charging issue is clarified here (link below). The club will be covering that cost which amounts to around 500k over ten years for local schools.
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"We got the council?s agreement to not charge the state schools and provide free access subsidised by the club. So number is on the plan but the school doesn?t pay. This had to be approved by council as a variation to their rate card."
"It?s part of the Sports England template business plan you have to submit for a development of a sporting facility. We then negotiated with the council to reverse that on the rate card and give it for free. You still have to give the commercial value, even if you offer for free."
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If we had a custodian of the club with a spare 30 million or could find a property developer who was going to buy the land that they could not get any planning permission on that would be excellent... but it is not realistic.
And that does not solve the problem of the current stadium being in the state it is in.
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almost peckham Wrote:
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> savedulwichhamlet
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> Over the last few months the astroturf has been
> been 'fit for purpose' for playing football,
> volleyball, kids riding bikes, for dog walkers,
> cricket matches, running laps, circuit training,
> bmx tricks, and just being in an open space with a
> wider horizon than might be seen from a window.
> Broader, less controlled, possibly more human
> usage than a 'state of the art sports centre' . It
> has been vital.
My point is, something is going to be done with that land regardless. If it is refurbed, it will be fenced off, if Dulwich build their stadium, it will be fenced off.
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eastdulwichhenry Wrote:
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> @YTC the astroturf and the land around it are a
> community resource, a wonderful wild green area
> where people from the densely populated
> neighbourhoods in the area go to unwind, walk
> their dogs and enjoy some of the untamed
> greenland. The lockdown has shown, if there was
> any doubt before, how important this is. I'd urge
> you to please go and take a look at the astroturf
> during the day tomorrow if you don't believe me.
> Children play there, there's room for sports, and
> groups congregate to chat (socially distanced for
> the most part, which the space allows). And others
> walk in the green areas behind. Please do this
> tomorrow, visit the astroturf and maybe it will
> change your mind about this development, which
> will kill off this important use of the
> metropolitan open land as it stands. It is not
> derelict land, it is an important community
> resource.
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The choice here is a derelict piece of astro turf which is not fit for purpose and the end of a 126 year old football club or a state of the art community and sports centre which anyone can use.
If the astro turf was ever refurbed to a high standard, it would be fenced off. The only reason it is not fenced off now is because of the state it is in.
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Cheers Tom, only ten years out!
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> If this application is refused...what particular
> cost will make the club fail?
The cost for keeping this current ground to an acceptable safety standard is, and will be a huge cost and will only increase year on year.
The current ground is a money swamp.
I was not a fan of the club when this ground was built (in 1982?) but I have been told by a lot of people it was built on the cheap and that is now showing.
The club and the trust have ensured the new design will be built at an acceptable standard of quality that will last years.
I do not have the costs to hand but we spent an absolute fortune making the club safe for fans after our return from Tooting and the club was only unoccupied for eight months
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I was quite heavily involved in the campaign against Meadows (nowhere near as involved as Tom) and I too have put all that behind me.
Holding it against them at this stage is not a battle that is going to be beneficial to the club when they are working with us as a partnership.
I am sure they have regrets at the way it was handled but the way forward is to leave that in the past and to work for the future of the club because without this development, the club has no future.
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I can't add anything to what Tom has said but what I will say, if you have concerns please do get in touch with Tom.
He is very approachable and will be more than happy to answer your questions.
There seems to a be a lot of inaccurate information out there and this important community decision really needs to be made based on facts.
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Hi all,
Our popular matchday 5050 draw is back (without the matchday attached!) to raise money for the NHS Staff of King's College Hospital.
Tickets are ?1.50 and you can win half the pot. The other half will be donated to the Support Kings Charity
Second and third prizes are matchday tickets and tickets for the boardroom.
Football club article here
https://www.pitchero.com/clubs/dulwichhamlet/news/virtual-5050-draw-2538335.html
Buy tickets here!
Good luck and stay safe!
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and we have a cracking line up...
Tiff Stevenson (Mock of the Week)
Jonny Pelham
Helen Lederer (Ab Fab)
Jamie Allerton
The bar is open all day for the World Cup final. Comedy kicks off at 7pm
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At our home game against Hungerford Town, we will be collecting unwanted bicycles to be repaired and refurbished for refugees across London.
Towards the end of April, football clubs across the country ? from the Premier League to grassroots refugee teams ? will lay aside their rivalries and come together to celebrate the contribution refugee players have made, and continue to make, to the beautiful game. The ?Football Welcomes? weekend, promoted by Amnesty International UK, is scheduled for the weekend we play away at Weston Super-Mare.
We are delighted to announce that Dulwich Hamlet will be kick off this year?s campaign at our home game against Hungerford Town.
Following on from our successful bike collection for refugees in 2016, we will be holding another one on Saturday 13th April 2019.
More info in link below:
https://www.pitchero.com/clubs/dulwichhamlet/news/bike-appeal-the-bike-project-2413183.html
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Hi all, we are putting on a Love Football, Hate Racism gig at Dulwich Hamlet FC on Friday 8th March. Tickets and details below
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/love-football-hate-racism-tickets-55348511889
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Hi all,
We are putting on a special love Football, Hate Racism at Dulwich Hamlet Football Club on the 8th March 2019.
Featuring ska band the Estimators and Paul Canoville (the first black player to play for Chelsea). We will be confirming another act or two soon.
Info and ticket details here!
https://croydonnorthlabour.org.uk/event/love-football-hate-racism/
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Save Dulwich Hamlet are pleased to announce the details of our rally and march in East Dulwich on Saturday 17th March. We need you there, we need you loud and proud. Speakers include Liam Hickey, Mishi Morath, Cllr Catherine Rose and Lord Roy Kennedy #dhfc More details here!
Dulwich Hamlet Football Club planning decision - 27th July
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guyfield Wrote:
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> Very happy for the club but sad to be losing the
> Astro - a unique space that I have been using
> multiple times a week this last couple years for
> exercise and recreation. I know may others will
> feel the same too.
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> When will the building works / demolition be
> starting? Just wondering for how much longer i'll
> be able to use the Astro before the diggers roll
> in.
I would say fairly soon as the investors have been getting itchy teeth for quite a while now.
On another note, whichever way this went, the astro turf would not have been left as a free for all much longer regardless of the decision last night.