Loutwo

I don’t think Farmers will be affected by Poundland. I love Farmers, it’s been around forever, I remember it when I was young. It sells unique cleaning products other places cannot or will not stock. I think if anything, Poundland will create more competition for the other big chains.

Louisa.

Agreed.

It's been going on ad nauseam for years.

She once announced she was leaving and never coming back.

But no. She saw an opportunity to have another go at the people living in this area who she appears to hate so much.

 

Oh I do have to laugh. The usual suspects goading left right and centre, then choosing to play the ‘shut down’ Louisa’ card when the argument goes against them. The above quoted forum members are a good summary of what is wrong with society today. ‘We don’t agree with you so we will shut your opinions down to make ourselves feel good’. Yawn. I barely use the forum, I really don’t give a toss if I’m “relegated to the lounge”. Bring it on! Haha. Losers.

Louisa.

 

Nah. We're just all bored of your boring twuntiness. And your dishonesty about being allowed back in if you behaved. Despite your protestations to the contrary; a class warrior you ain't.

Oh bore off. The irony is real. The Admin has specifically requested we get this thread back on track. But you can’t help having a little dig can you? Can you please stop goading people for a fight, and talk about the topic at hand.

Louisa.

And this response exemplifies my point about pretentious yuppies. Rather have a coffee than a multi pack of hula hoops. May I make a suggestion to any yuppies reading this? Invest in some instant Nescafé granules if you’re struggling that much. Then you can get one of the hula hoops multi packs too.

Can afford an expensive coffee and then moans about mortgages, child care costs and rents. Hilarious, so full of self importance.

Louisa.

 

Boomers suggesting that cutting out expensive coffee and avocado toast will solve financial struggles is such a laughable cliché...

Post Generation X suggesting that paying the mortgage is a struggle but they wont cut back on posh coffee and five star dining. People of my generation barely ate out when we were younger. I certainly cut back when I needed to, paying the bills was always a priority.

Clearly priorities are different with certain socio economic classes. If you’ve never struggled, you’d never know how to survive on a budget. Hence why, not cutting back on the fancy stuff comes as the norm to these people.

Louisa.

And this response exemplifies my point about pretentious yuppies. Rather have a coffee than a multi pack of hula hoops. May I make a suggestion to any yuppies reading this? Invest in some instant Nescafé granules if you’re struggling that much. Then you can get one of the hula hoops multi packs too.

Can afford an expensive coffee and then moans about mortgages, child care costs and rents. Hilarious, so full of self importance.

Louisa.

 

Ugh. Same old same old.

Can we relegate Louisa to the Lounge again please Admin. She was allowed back if she didn't just regurgitate the same, stale vitriol. She's like Wolfie Smith but without the wit or self awareness.

 

Agreed.

It's been going on ad nauseam for years.

She once announced she was leaving and never coming back.

But no. She saw an opportunity to have another go at the people living in this area who she appears to hate so much.

Oh I do have to laugh. The usual suspects goading left right and centre, then choosing to play the ‘shut down’ Louisa’ card when the argument goes against them. The above quoted forum members are a good summary of what is wrong with society today. ‘We don’t agree with you so we will shut your opinions down to make ourselves feel good’. Yawn. I barely use the forum, I really don’t give a toss if I’m “relegated to the lounge”. Bring it on! Haha. Losers.

Louisa.

First world problems or what?

Maybe these ‘struggling’ middle class people should consider a move somewhere more affordable then? Or perhaps, reconsider their life choices on food.

Seems bizarre to me that so many plum in the mouth, big spending yuppies can afford an independent coffee shop, but turn their nose up at a pound shop. I guess that’s what sums them up though isn’t it? Wannabes.

If they’re genuinely struggling with rent and bills, perhaps they could force themselves to shop somewhere that’s ‘below’ their inflated ego, more in line with their ailing disposable income. Problem solved.

Or move somewhere more affordable perhaps?

Louisa.

 

Sure. Moaners should contemplate relocating.

While some people are struggling with bills, rents and mortgage payment it doesn't mean they have to deny themselves a little bit of luxury...for the same price I think some would prefer a latte to 2 multi packs of Hulla Hoops.

Each to their own, I guess...

And this response exemplifies my point about pretentious yuppies. Rather have a coffee than a multi pack of hula hoops. May I make a suggestion to any yuppies reading this? Invest in some instant Nescafé granules if you’re struggling that much. Then you can get one of the hula hoops multi packs too.

Can afford an expensive coffee and then moans about mortgages, child care costs and rents. Hilarious, so full of self importance.

Louisa.

First world problems or what?

Maybe these ‘struggling’ middle class people should consider a move somewhere more affordable then? Or perhaps, reconsider their life choices on food.

Seems bizarre to me that so many plum in the mouth, big spending yuppies can afford an independent coffee shop, but turn their nose up at a pound shop. I guess that’s what sums them up though isn’t it? Wannabes.

If they’re genuinely struggling with rent and bills, perhaps they could force themselves to shop somewhere that’s ‘below’ their inflated ego, more in line with their ailing disposable income. Problem solved.

Or move somewhere more affordable perhaps?

Louisa.

I only ever buy bananas from a greengrocer which is nearly always cheaper than a supermarket, and usually comes in a brown paper bag.

Louisa.

Market forces happen. Sometimes they work in our favour, sometimes they don’t. Get over it.

I lament the loss of Iceland to this day, doesn’t mean I can force their hand on where they choose to open, or indeed where the yuppy brigade want to buy houses. They chose ED twenty years ago, and all the wannabe posh shops followed them. Not my bag, but hey ho. It happens.

Now we have Poundland opened here, the chai latte lovers are crying into their organic vegan friendly breakfast cereal. Funny how their love of ‘independent shops’ only ever becomes an argument when it’s not something well established for years. And also, chains are ok as long as they’re not too ‘working class’. Hilarious.

Louisa.

Why do some individuals so determined to turn the arrival of a shop into a class war ? Where are all these elusive "oat latte drinkers" protesting outside Poundland?

The truth is the shop is rubbish at providing affordable healthy food - yes you may save few pounds a month on toothpaste and window cleaner but this is not going to ease the cost of of living.

In fact, it is likely to exacerbate the diabetes epidemic that disproportionately affects people from lower socio-economic backgrounds.

An Aldi or a Lidl would have been much better tbh (probably too small).

So do working class people need guidance on what to eat now? I’m sure they can make up their own minds. You don’t see the less well off standing outside an organic butchers or farm shop demanding people shouldn’t buy things cos they’re too expensive.

The fact is, Poundland opened here because there’s clearly a want and need for their business model. They’ve done their homework. Consumers will react with their spending power accordingly.

Yes a lidl or aldi would have been great, but there isn’t the space for one. Unless the co op shuts down.

Louisa.

I popped in for some biscuits, crisps and cakes. All cheaper than the crap dishes up by other local supermarkets.

The yuppies are only upset cos they thought the colonisation of ED was complete, and this has pissed all over their vegan organic eco friendly bonfires.

Now let’s shut down co-op and turn it into an iceland food warehouse. Job complete.

Louisa.

If I see anyone creeping in and out of the new Poundland with a Waitrose bag, I will be having words. No excuse for that level of snobbery.

In fact I’ll go one better, before the usual suspects accuse me of all sorts of unfounded ridiculousness. I will supply alternative bag for life options if and when I see said folk bagging their goods in Waitrose branded bags!

Louisa.

Poundland local seems to have a good supply of biscuits, crisps, fizzy drinks and cakes. It’s so nice to have somewhere to go to get the basics without worrying about taking out a second mortgage.

Bring it on.

Louisa.

Seems I’m going against the grain here but I’m disappointed to see another big chain opening up. I’m a big fan of the independent nature of LL and this plus pret, joe and the juice and Megan’s (although a smaller chain) opening here in just the last year is eroding what makes ED special IMO.

I made my arguments against the ‘chain nature’ of LL compared to other high streets over on the other thread.

I think the problem a lot of people have, is seeing outside their own bubble, and I mean this with no malice or judgement against you personally. I don’t know you nor your personal circumstances.

LL was once a working class high street, but even back as far as the 70s and 80s I cannot remember any chains in any locations other than the larger retail spaces now occupied by M&S, the Co-op and Foxtons (soon to be Poundland).

The existing chains we have now reflect the altered demographic in the many years I’ve resided here. However, it’s often easy to overlook the poorest in society. Many of these people on low fixed incomes are reliant on shops such as Poundland for bargains. Therefore, during these difficult times, I struggle to have sympathy with the ‘Independent nature of LL’ argument.

No independents are being threatened with the arrival of Poundland (replacing another chain Foxtons), and the increase in footfall will more than make up for any losses independents make. It’s competition, pure and simple.

Out of interest, what independent do you think could occupy that space left by Foxtons?

Louisa.

Bloody ‘Poundland’ on Lordship Lane! Another deathknell for the independents. What a shame that what made East Dulwich special is swiftly becoming like every other high street. Really sad for the neighbourhood

Years ago, this was a Woolworths. After that, it became a Job Centre. It’s never been a ‘Independent shop’ in my long memory is being born and raised in East Dulwich. Also, as others have said, it’s replacing a chain, a estate agent chain at that,

Maybe for some people, what makes a high street ‘special’, is out pricing normal folk so they can’t shop there anymore. In a cost of living crisis, Poundland is a god send for many, especially elderly people and those on benefits or a small fixed income.

I’m sure the yuppies will find a whole plethora of overpriced tat elsewhere on the lane. How about letting normal ED’ers have a place to buy too?

Louisa.

Personally, I would rather this than Foxtons - but not sure we need another Poundland, or any other mini supermarkets. Will be interesting to see how it does.

Another poundland am I missing something

 

There are two more within a mile(ish) of Lordship Lane.

There are also a multitude of estate agents within the same distance. It’s all about demand and supply. If there wasn’t a demand for Poundland, they wouldn’t bother opening here. How many Tesco and Sainsbury stores are within the same distance? I wonder if that argument would be used if another M&S opened, or god forbid a WAITROSE.

Louisa.

Welcome to ED Poundland, with arms wide open.

Louisa.

Actually, Louisa, I can't agree. This is likely to severely damage the trade of Farmers - an excellent local shop which has provided good value services to ED over a long period. Poundland is a chain, aggressively priced and whose quality, in my view (others may differ) is not good. It will damage a quality local shop which has gone out of its way to provide a good local service. I know you have always championed chains which purport (not always accurately), to offer good value - and I do agree that losing Iceland was sad, although gaining M&S was a good thing - better would have been to have had both, in my view - but if Poundland comes and squeezes out Farmers then that loss will, again in my view, be worse than losing Iceland.

I love Farmer’s, I’ve been going there since I was a youngster and I know how well loved it is, and more importantly how much effort is put into the business. However, I have to disagree. The whole point of a chain is to create footfall onto a high street. Rather than damage their business model, I would imagine it would do the opposite. Nothing wrong with healthy competition, and tbf, they offer something relatively different anyway.

Louisa.

https://planning.southwark.gov.uk/online-applications/caseDetails.do?action=dispatch&keyVal=RH0E8AKB06900&caseType=BuildingControl

Unless someone at Southwark Council’s Planning Department enjoys trolling internet forum’s, it seems highly unlikely this is a fake application.

Louisa.

The co-op has always been a rip off. Wouldn’t catch me going in there. And not a fan of DKH Sainsbury either (although they do a price lock range now which is ok-ish). Ironic that M&S offer a cheaper essentials range than the two local rivals.

The loss of Iceland had a big impact on the poorer folk of ED. A impact some sneery forum users mocked for a while. But it seems, what goes around comes back around. No one cares about the loss of another estate agent, not when people are struggling to pay energy bills and put food on the table.

Welcome to ED Poundland, with arms wide open.

Louisa.

Hallelujah!

At last we have a sensible rebuke to the last 20 odd years of creeping yuppification. Sick to death of all the poncy wannabes showing off with their organic vegan ‘look at me’ shopping bags full of overpriced tat.

Poundland will allow ordinary people to use the lane again for essentials, without having to take out a second bloody mortgage for the privilege.

Louisa.

Sephiroth Wrote:

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> Ah such innocent 2014 days

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> 8 more years of Tory rule and we can see that

> Thornberry was the true monster

Stop s### stirring.

Louisa.

Cash or card you wouldn?t catch me wasting my money in these establishments. Rather buy a loaf and a packet of ham and cheese and make enough sarnies to last a week. More money than sense some people. (I am a Pret fan btw, and it?s nice to see them in ED).

Louisa.

So sorry to hear this Mark. You and I have had our polite disagreements over the year, resulting in my exclusion from some forum activity. Despite this, I will be very sad to see it go. It?s been a unrivalled resource for nostalgia, local information and hot debate over these last 16 years.

I genuinely hope someone can come along and invest the time and money into keeping it going.

Louisa.

Any invasion could spark a mass exodus of civilian populations towards the EU borders. It would cause a migrant crisis of millions. It?s a frightening situation for everyone.

Louisa.

Foxy, sorry to hear about your awful start to the new year. What I can recommend, for getting the bowels moving is Prune Juice, mother swore by it. It?s available in most health shops or if you have a carer coming in, get them to buy some locally for you. It does sound like you may have slow intestinal transit, or ?lazy? bowel. Something like Buscopan will get the contractions going again. I find a good fry up helps too.

Louisa.

I see all the usual suspects are still chatting shite in my absence. As you were, class.

Louisa.